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LordSunhawk

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OK, I got the Moderna (naked mRNA vaccine) today, went to the doctor for a checkup due to a change in my meds and left with the jab and about a pint less blood than I walked in with.

One thing I will point out vis-a-vis quality control issues (which I suspect is the main cause for the problems with the J&J vaccine, and my doctor agrees) is that the Moderna and Pfizer mRNA vaccines have 7 fewer steps in the production process than 'traditional' vaccines. Each of which is a 'major' step, not something minor, and thus 7 fewer opportunities for the Demon Murphy to play.
 

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No actually, they aren't.

The average Flu vaccine has just around a year of development, that's how they can push out a new one each year.

And no, they weren't.

The vaccines that end up axed are one's with one in a couple thousand side effects, the one's with one a million side effects get warning labels slapped on them and put to market.
The flu vaccine production process at this point has been standardized to literally just be able to swap in new samples of the new strain. It's like proverbially replacing the engine block of a car than building a new car itself.

The only thing you really need to worry about is if a strain undergoes a mutation that'd come full circle back to the strains seen in the early 20th, as that'd cause wide-spread death in the year it'd take to create and distribute a new vaccine for that strain.

Vaccines, from scratch, take on average fifteen years to go from concept, to development, to clinical trials, to mass production. The various vaccines for COVID? Less than two years.
 


bro just inject yourself with multiple shots of the rushed experimental mrna vaccine over the course of a year bro its for your own good bro trust the science bro since when would corporate ceos distort the truth bro its not like they have a monetary incentive behind this bro
 

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bro just inject yourself with multiple shots of the rushed experimental mrna vaccine over the course of a year bro its for your own good bro trust the science bro since when would corporate ceos distort the truth bro its not like they have a monetary incentive behind this bro

Why did I read this in a Pinny voice, dood?
 
Today I found a dismal story about an American exclave in Manitoba that's locked off from the county due to idiotic covid restrictions and unwillingness to purse exemptions. Thanks reddit-brains who concede to this stuff.


The new federal requirement for a negative COVID-19 test before crossing the border is supposed to keep Canadians safe from a raging pandemic.
But it's also forcing some Americans — who haven't self-isolated, or tested for COVID-19 — to travel into Canada for necessities like groceries, even though U.S. communities are closer to them.
"How many Manitobans was I within proximity of in the grocery store right now?" asked Paul Colson, as he placed a box of club soda into his SUV in Steinbach, Man., two hours from his home in the U.S.
A resident of Angle Inlet, Minn., Colson is cut off from his own country by pandemic restrictions that complicated border crossings.
His hometown, better known as the Northwest Angle, is one of the most isolated areas in the United States. It's surrounded on three sides by Canada and a body of water to the south.

Although the Canada-U.S. border has been closed to non-essential travel throughout the pandemic, Angle residents were allowed to travel to the rest of the U.S. for some purposes via their only land link — a barren road that runs through southeastern Manitoba.
But in February, the Canadian government introduced a requirement that non-essential travellers entering Canada by land have a negative COVID-19 test less than three days old.
An exemption to the Canadian rule for a very few communities — including the Northwest Angle — allows residents there to enter Canada without a test "only to access necessities of life from the closest Canadian community" where they're available.
That means Colson can travel to Steinbach for groceries.
But the exemption doesn't say he can cross through Manitoba into mainland Minnesota, and then back across the border to get to his home in the Northwest Angle — even though that would mean a shorter trip than going to Steinbach.
Curiously, the order gives residents of a similarly isolated border town — Point Roberts, Wash. — an exception if they enter either Canada or the U.S.
The Public Health Agency of Canada didn't explain the discrepancy when asked by CBC News.


DULUTH – Paul Colson was ready to raise a ruckus — and risk arrest — if Canadian border officials denied him entry on his drive home to the Northwest Angle on Tuesday.
After almost 13 months of pandemic-prompted border restrictions, which recently grew more onerous, Colson said he and other residents feel "we are dispensable. We don't matter."
"I'll just block the road, they can throw me in jail," he said. "I've got to do something."
To his surprise, he was able to travel the nearly 50 miles through Manitoba back to that unique Minnesota peninsula jutting into Lake of the Woods that is only accessible by land through Canada.
Colson, who owns Jake's Northwest Angle resort and is one of the exclave's roughly 120 year-round residents, says it is time to get more assertive. He has forged relationships with the state's federal delegation — Sen. Amy Klobuchar's office called him Wednesday afternoon, and he has a direct line to GOP Reps. Michelle Fischbach and Pete Stauber — but has seen no results.
"Enough with the letter writing, enough with the phone calls," he said. "No one is willing to up the ante, and that's what we need them to do."


Since the border was closed to nonessential travelers on March 21, 2020, Canadian officials have not yielded to pressure from U.S. officials who have asked for more exceptions for those who can enter the country — including those just passing through on their way back to American soil. About 60% of the land on the Northwest Angle belongs to the Red Lake Band of Chippewa.
Sen. Tina Smith urged U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken to "work with your Canadian counterparts to devise a solution that addresses the needs of border exclave communities, and the Northwest Angle specifically," she wrote in a letter this week.
"We had a resort owner who left the Northwest Angle in January, and when they returned on Easter Sunday they were not allowed to pass," Smith said in an interview. "People don't feel the sense of urgency to get this resolved."


 

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Leave it to Bloomberg to be honest about wanting the pandemic to never actually end.

Well, of course: they and other Leftards, and I include the American Democrats and all the other politicians in the world profiting from this in some way, don't want people to return to a normal state of life because they'd a) lose money by profiting off their fear, b) lose control, as governments are using this as a perfect opportunity to go full on Orwell, or c) a combination of the two.

The only way life is going to return to normal is if COVID is treated like how the flu is: live with it, despite how dangerous it is. There is never going to be a permanent inoculation or vaccine like there were for diseases like polio or smallpox as it mutates constantly, like influenza.

Of course, people acting like panicked sheep all the time (like literally leaping away from someone like a vampire burned by holy water or repulsed by the scent of garlic for being 'too close' in their minds) means that's unlikely to happen any time soon.
 

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So this is a new wrinkle, one that is not coming out of some questionable commercial/US Gov study either.

Shingles are not a 'side-effect', more of a 'trade one poison for another' situation.
 

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