"Woke" Franchises

Captain X

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Osaul
That's hardly fair, as adaptations will always be a shadow of the original material.
Not really. Was Blade Runner? Was A Clockwork Orange or The Shining? Was Jurassic Park?

Aside from "A Clockwork Orange" I have read and liked the source materials of all of those, but I also still like the movie adaptations, which very much stand on their own. There is nothing that says "Dune" could not be the same way, but it seems to me like no one has been able to do it thus far. To be fair, I think it would really need a series to be properly adapted, and while Sci-Fi put in a decent effort, I was still pretty underwhelmed by it, even with the fan service. And I swear it isn't because I secretly dream of seeing it adapted into an anime or anything...
 

ATP

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Not really. Was Blade Runner? Was A Clockwork Orange or The Shining? Was Jurassic Park?

Aside from "A Clockwork Orange" I have read and liked the source materials of all of those, but I also still like the movie adaptations, which very much stand on their own. There is nothing that says "Dune" could not be the same way, but it seems to me like no one has been able to do it thus far. To be fair, I think it would really need a series to be properly adapted, and while Sci-Fi put in a decent effort, I was still pretty underwhelmed by it, even with the fan service. And I swear it isn't because I secretly dream of seeing it adapted into an anime or anything...

Of course,that you are dreaming about it! in fact,i suspect that you arleady hired some japaneese to did dastardly deed...;)
Jokes aside - Jurassic Park book was in my opinion worst then movie.
But Blade Runner was good one,and i do not read Shining.
 
Dune is a genius, deep science fiction epic with a lot of complex phylosophy and discussions on things like religion, power and following a charismatic leader being a bad idea, read it and understand it before you bitch about it.

Nah I don't read weeb shit
 

ATP

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It is an American science fiction novel.


Shining, um Bladerunner was based on a novel called Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep, by Philip K. Dick.

I read that novel.Movie have little to do with it,but both are equally good.
 

Agent23

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I read that novel.Movie have little to do with it,but both are equally good.
It was a lot more surrealist and philosophical than what we got in the movie.
OG Blade Runner was still iconic, despite playing fast and loose with the "canon".
 

Skallagrim

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It is an American science fiction novel.
You're only feeding an obvious troll. (Or a blithering moron, but that's functionally the same.)


It was a lot more surrealist and philosophical than what we got in the movie.
Well, it was PKD, so what would you expect? He was batshit, and it made for some really weird stuff. How muh you like it depends on your tolerance for trippy elements. But nonetheless, he's a goldmine for adaptations.
 

ATP

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You're only feeding an obvious troll. (Or a blithering moron, but that's functionally the same.)



Well, it was PKD, so what would you expect? He was batshit, and it made for some really weird stuff. How muh you like it depends on your tolerance for trippy elements. But nonetheless, he's a goldmine for adaptations.

True about PKD.I read,that he really belived,that Lem/polish sci-fi writer/ was KGB agent.But,he was genius,too.
I wonder - did he wrote so much good stories becouse of drugs he take,or it not mattered? maybe he wrote better,if he do not use drugs ?
 

King Krávoka

An infection of Your universe.
Part of the problem is that Hollywood, and maybe all mass media, is genuinely racist, sexist, classist, and any other prejudice that You can name, which is inherent to the way it works. When I say "inherent", I don't mean that it has bad blood with any less privileged group, or that it's dominated by a prejudicial mindset, the truth is that it creates prejudice by its very structure. Prejudice means "a premade judgement of other people", and experience with reality is the only thing that can supplant prejudice. But Hollywood is a microscopic, sealed world that wears the image of this one. It is populated by people that are more experienced with itself than with real life, and needs this sort of person for it to keep up with the demands of its purpose, which is the mass-production of narratives describing everything else. They have to work from prejudices, or they won't be able to do anything. It's clear that the "woke" phenomenon began from factual evaluation of the mass media, and its attempts to correct itself ever since, which have all failed. And when these aliens live in an especially prejudicial world, they will see Our world as being similarly prejudicial, not to mention that they are making that into truth by exporting their prejudices to Our world. As a sidenote; this is part of why these people don't care at all about class. You need someone of the right gender and race, but anyone can play pretend at being a different class in Hollywood, which is fortunate since all their actors and writers are of the same class, You could say that it's a classless society.
 

Robovski

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Doctor Who continues finding new ways to just go down the drain...


"
A new Doctor Who podcast spin-off series is making the show more female and LGBTQ+ than ever before.
Doctor Who: Redacted, written by a transgender woman and with a transgender star, premieres on BBC Sounds this week.
"
 

Agent23

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You're only feeding an obvious troll. (Or a blithering moron, but that's functionally the same.)
I noticed, it is still fun to praise my favorite franchises, though.


Well, it was PKD, so what would you expect? He was batshit, and it made for some really weird stuff. How muh you like it depends on your tolerance for trippy elements. But nonetheless, he's a goldmine for adaptations.
Yeah, and most of the time the adaptations are underwhelming, like Paycheck, and Minority Report and A scanner darkly, that one with the self-replicating war machines.

And yes, I do, or should I say, I did, enjoy PKD's stuff something trippy is sometimes fun.
 

bintananth

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Doctor Who continues finding new ways to just go down the drain...


"
A new Doctor Who podcast spin-off series is making the show more female and LGBTQ+ than ever before.
Doctor Who: Redacted, written by a transgender woman and with a transgender star, premieres on BBC Sounds this week.
"
Hmm ...

Juno Dawson (the writer) said:
And of course, as a transgender woman myself it was important to me to see the lead character being trans as well.
Charlie Craggs (the lead actor) said:
It's a trans girl from a council estate in London - which is literally just me.

This reeks with the stench of a self-insert fanfic.
 

Captain X

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Osaul

Rounding out the trio’s set of answers, Masterson put forth, “I would want to make sure that Lita – I don’t think they need me anymore to be any kind of thing other than a strong character.”

“And I think if it had to do with social justice, it could work,” she continued. “But anything else, I think we’ve already done that. I think moving along the social justice narrative in terms of Latinum not being the focus on Ferenginar. That, I’d like to do.”

:rolleyes:
 

Agent23

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:rolleyes:
And anyone still cares what aged eye candy says because?
I mean, those boobas, or should I say loomas, I don't recall if that was Ferengi or Farscape slang for mammaries, have sagged by now, and only the most fanatical simps will still give a damn about her.
 

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