"Woke" Franchises

[DarthOne]

Things like that are why ownership actually needs to mean ownership and the right to repair need to be fought to exist.

But these fucking lefty transhumanists are like 'lets give the gubbermint power over out very bodies and trust them to target people we don't like!'

Fucking retarded.

It boggles the mind how the left went from, at least allegedly, being the side of ‘don’t trust the government and corporations’ to, well, where they are now. All while barely seeming to miss a beat, at least by my recollection. Though I admit I might just have not been paying attention or am forgetting something.

 

[Vyor]

 

[Poe]

It boggles the mind how the left went from, at least allegedly, being the side of ‘don’t trust the government and corporations’ to, well, where they are now. All while barely seeming to miss a beat, at least by my recollection. Though I admit I might just have not been paying attention or am forgetting something.

The last time the "left" was anti-government the words liberal and libertarian were synonyms and they were fighting against absolute monarchs. That was centuries ago and the modern left has no relation to these people

 

[Iconoclast]

@Vyor on the way to work:

I think we're all overthinking it on the gender cultural wars front. You don't need a complex conspiracy about trying to prove God fallible when a simple one about wanting to get filthy rich will do.

That's a very naive economic calculation to begin with, because it assumes that all 1.4 million trans people have the money to transition. They don't.

But yes, trans people are seen by the industry as plastic surgery cash cows. Absolutely.

Transhumanism in the hands of the same rent-seeking parasites play out exactly the same way. Their end goal being for everyone else to have to pay them for doing and be able to kill anyone at any time by backlisting their access to repairs.

Yes, the Ketracel-White hypothesis. If you mandate modifications to people's bodies, then you can assure their continued loyalty to the State by providing access to necessary drugs and replacement components to keep people's augmentations working, but withholding them for disobedience. Like Nu-Poz in Deus Ex: Human Revolution (although, in that case, the incentive to obtain it was mostly economic; as in, you had to hold down a good-paying job to afford it).

Things like that are why ownership actually needs to mean ownership and the right to repair need to be fought to exist.

But these fucking lefty transhumanists are like 'lets give the gubbermint power over out very bodies and trust them to target people we don't like!'

Fucking retarded.

Insanely fucking retarded. So fucktarded, it's unbelievable. They have no idea the level of tyranny that would be enabled by such tech. No idea at all.

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[Vyor]

@Vyor on the way to work:

 

[IndyFront]

You are joking, right?

Even if they might not agree with leftist talking points, the left goes out of its way to benefit immigrants, especially illegals ones. As the illegal ones know that if MAGA-style right wing politicians win, they won't stand for the sort of easy treatment and benefits that the Left gives out.

That's about the gist of it.

This is laughably incorrect and gives credence to the Democrat liberal strategy that they are smart to import Hispanic immigrants. They are not. Most Hispanic immigrants vote Republican (especially Cubans)

 

[IndyFront]

The last time the "left" was anti-government the words liberal and libertarian were synonyms and they were fighting against absolute monarchs. That was centuries ago and the modern left has no relation to these people

I'm loathe to even call them leftists tbh. A lot of them hate Jews, side with far-right theocratic Hamas and Iran and look down on minorities. They're basically Nazis at this point.

 

[ATP]

I'm loathe to even call them leftists tbh. A lot of them hate Jews, side with far-right theocratic Hamas and Iran and look down on minorities. They're basically Nazis at this point.

Do not offend germans.They,at least,knew how to fight.

 

[DarthOne]

This is laughably incorrect and gives credence to the Democrat liberal strategy that they are smart to import Hispanic immigrants. They are not. Most Hispanic immigrants vote Republican (especially Cubans)

Ah yes, the ‘based Hispanic migrants’ claim. I have yet to see much evidence.

 

[LordDemiurge]

to, well, where they are now.

I would respect them more if they were honest about desiring law and authority.

Because the larping as independant free spirited anarchists/individualists bothers me in a way even their shitty morality doesn't.

 

[Captain X]

It's a long watch, but the entire point of it is to address the lie of "Marvel has always been woke" and how modern activist writers have co-opted comics and revised history to fit their narrative.

 

[SoliFortissimi]

Marvel definitely loved to insert itself into high pressure political issues of the day, and always on the side of the progressives. This is the franchise where Captain America once fought against the supervillain Nixon, and the only religious people that aren't monsters are the minorities.

....and even then, Kurt has had to deal with insane Catholic anti-Mutant cults on at least one occasion. Catholic anti-mutant cults that held dogmas only American Protestants do, and were written by someone who clearly doesn't understand Catholicism.

 

[Bassoe]

Yes, the Ketracel-White hypothesis. If you mandate modifications to people's bodies, then you can assure their continued loyalty to the State by providing access to necessary drugs and replacement components to keep people's augmentations working, but withholding them for disobedience. Like Nu-Poz in Deus Ex: Human Revolution (although, in that case, the incentive to obtain it was mostly economic; as in, you had to hold down a good-paying job to afford it).

You don't even need to legally mandate modifications, capitalism will do that just fine on its own if the modifications work and therefore make their recipients more capable workers and therefore more profitable than the alternative.

 

[King Arts]

You don't understand what natural law is. Natural law is not the "law of the jungle." Nor is it the law of evolution. It has completely zero to do with how nature works. It's basically a term that's just used for statements a certain morality system views as axiomatic (obvious basic truths). Things like "attacking another for no reason is wrong"

Then natural law is false. After all prove attacking someone for no reason is wrong? If I reject your assertion you can’t just repeat “muh natural law” without anything to back it up. It means nothing just like transgender ideology.

If you look to animals close to us, you get bonobos doing gay sex and prostitution, and apes in general doing mass killings and war.

Prostitution does not violate natural law it’s perfectly natural. I’ve never met someone who claimed that.

Also, as a side note, nowhere did you refute your argument that you justified pedophilia. Because your argument does this. You definitely attacked my argument, but you didn't defend your own.

No it does not justify it. When I explained why our society bans it until society determines someone becomes an adult I gave social reasons.

Natural law bans pedophillia based on collective understanding. If you believe in individualism then yes there is no argument. But I am not an individualist,

The reason a prisoner can't consent is not because he isn't mentally capable, but because he is under threat. It's coercion, for the same reason you can't consent to giving someone your money when they put a gun to your head. Oh, you can certainly give them your money, but it was hardly a consensual exchange. This doesn't prove your point.

Thats not true just because someone has supreme power over you does not mean there is no consent that is just legal fiction invented by individualist egalitarian society.

After all do you seriously think EVERY single king who was an absolute monarchy aka basically a dictator was a rapist? He has the ability to kill anyone he chooses for any reason or no reason and no one can stop him. I guess the queen is a rape victim, so are his enthusiastic mistresses lol. There are some kings who were rapists yes but not all of them

Now above this, you say 'it's all just legal dressing'. It isn't. It's legal recognition of the concept of consent. Of course, real consent is a muddy thing that defies clear rules other than "I know it when I see it", so the law imperfectly puts it into practice by just picking an age. The age for consent could be 16 or 18 or 25 for all I care, the point isn't the law, the point is that the law is based on an underlying morality about children's inability to consent.

What? Then if you are agreeing that the age is arbitrary then how is natural law justifying pedos? If it’s arbitrarily set whenever it’s safe to do so under natural law boom done.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

Then natural law is false.

What you're arguing for is 'the state of nature' not 'natural law'.

 

[King Arts]

What you're arguing for is 'the state of nature' not 'natural law'.

No state of nature or “law of the jungle” is a euphemism for anarchy or no rules. But that’s not how nature works. Nature builds and has rules based on what is advantageous for species tribes societies etc.

 

[ATP]

Marvel definitely loved to insert itself into high pressure political issues of the day, and always on the side of the progressives. This is the franchise where Captain America once fought against the supervillain Nixon, and the only religious people that aren't monsters are the minorities.

....and even then, Kurt has had to deal with insane Catholic anti-Mutant cults on at least one occasion. Catholic anti-mutant cults that held dogmas only American Protestants do, and were written by someone who clearly doesn't understand Catholicism.

I remember that.Apparently somebody wonted bad catholics,but knew notching about us.
Normal thing in USA,with their fairy tales about bad Inquisition.

 

[SoliFortissimi]

Catholics are Schrodinger's Minorities, just like Jews. They are attacked or defended depending on what the progressive stack tells them. Add to it the Leftist's wilful ignorance on all social issues except in how they affirm Marxist critique, and most anti-Catholic attacks just come across as bizarre to any Catholic. Or even atheists who know about Catholics.

At any rate, point is: they're absolutely right. Marvel is leftist to the core, and has been since its inception. That's what made them famous, even. That's why they beat DC like a drum.

 

[ATP]

Catholics are Schrodinger's Minorities, just like Jews. They are attacked or defended depending on what the progressive stack tells them. Add to it the Leftist's wilful ignorance on all social issues except in how they affirm Marxist critique, and most anti-Catholic attacks just come across as bizarre to any Catholic. Or even atheists who know about Catholics.

At any rate, point is: they're absolutely right. Marvel is leftist to the core, and has been since its inception. That's what made them famous, even. That's why they beat DC like a drum.

Sadly,true.

 

[TheRejectionist]

DC comics start to resemble Soviet and Chicom propaganda.