Warship Appreciation Thread

[gral]

Helicopter carriers often look unbalanced. JEANNE D’ARC, CAIO DUILIO and VITTORIO VENETO also look chopped.

Eh, Vittorio Veneto is the best looking one of the ones you've mentioned.

 

[Zachowon]

Eh, Vittorio Veneto is the best looking one of the ones you've mentioned.

To me the Jeanne D'Arc is the best looking

 

[Darth Robbhi]

Both look less amputated than MOSKVA, but still.

 

[Tiamat]

Both look less amputated than MOSKVA, but still.

I actually like the brute appearance of the Slava class including MOSVKA with the armament layout for its size. 16 Sandbox missiles ready to shoot along with 64 Grumble SAMS and everything else.

 

[Darth Robbhi]

I actually like the brute appearance of the Slava class including MOSVKA with the armament layout for its size. 16 Sandbox missiles ready to shoot along with 64 Grumble SAMS and everything else.

Wrong MOSKVA. We were talking about the helicopter cruiser.

I do agree, the SLAVAs can be quite the looker, though her profile is such that she would look goodeven without the tubes.

 

[Tiamat]

Wrong MOSKVA. We were talking about the helicopter cruiser.

I do agree, the SLAVAs can be quite the looker, though her profile is such that she would look goodeven without the tubes.

Yeah, i just saw that, that ship in the photo was originally called Slava, then changed to MOSVKA in 2000, the Soviets...er Russians having a rather annoying habit of renaming their vessels.

 

[Darth Robbhi]

Yeah, i just saw that, that ship in the photo was originally called Slava, then changed to MOSVKA in 2000, the Soviets...er Russians having a rather annoying habit of renaming their vessels.

Aye. At least it was only once, unlike the Tsarist and then Communist navies

 

[Husky_Khan]

Probably just a good paint scheme obviously but I do like the look of the Legend-class Cutters.

 

[Tiamat]

Probably just a good paint scheme obviously but I do like the look of the Legend-class Cutters.

Indeed...still, needs more gun. 😜

 

[Knowledgeispower]

Indeed...still, needs more gun. 😜

Slap a OTO Melara 76mm gun of the Strales variant in place the 57mm Bofors and add the weapons its designed to be fitted with in the event of war or Congress wanting to give shipyards more work. And add that gun to the LCS and FFG(x) in place of their 57mm Bofors

 

[Harlock]

Aftermath of a Kamikaze attack on a heavy cruiser

Spoiler

Good effort, left an impression

 

[gral]

Aftermath of a Kamikaze attack on a heavy cruiser

Spoiler

Good effort, left an impression

Truth be told, the guy hit exactly where he should have hit for great effect. Problem was, it should have been something with more oomph than a light observation plane with(apparently) no explosive ordnance to go past the cruiser's belt.

 

[BF110C4]

Truth be told, the guy hit exactly where he should have hit for great effect. Problem was, it should have been something with more oomph than a light observation plane with(apparently) no explosive ordnance to go past the cruiser's belt.

Classic Catch 22, a light plane lacks the firepower and weight to seriously damage the passive defense of a heavy cruiser, but a plane with heavier ordenance is not nimble and fast enough to go through the very agressive defenses of a cruiser division.

 

[gral]

Classic Catch 22, a light plane lacks the firepower and weight to seriously damage the passive defense of a heavy cruiser, but a plane with heavier ordenance is not nimble and fast enough to go through the very agressive defenses of a cruiser division.

Probably true, although something like an A6M could possibly do it.

 

[Tiamat]

Aftermath of a Kamikaze attack on a heavy cruiser

Spoiler

Good effort, left an impression

Was the plane piloted by Wil E Coyote?

MEEP MEEP!!

 

[Vargas Fan]

Probably true, although something like an A6M could possibly do it.

Trouble is that the Zeros and indeed Oscars were lightly armoured, so while they might have had the speed they didn't really have the mass. Later models of torpedo bombers like the Judy and Grace were too valuable to just throw away.

Was there ever any real successes with the Okha?

 

[Harlock]

they wasted a handful of destroyers but allied pilots quickly learned to shoot down the bombers carrying them before they got into range

 

[Aaron Fox]

I wish the Zumwalts looked scary in a good way. As they are they're probably one of the biggest floating money pits the Navy ever wasted money on.

Not really, but then again some people here wouldn't know ship design when it literally bites them in the ass. The Zumwalts are basically a repeat of the Seawolf SSNs. The planned number of Seawolf SSNs was 29 but due to a combination of budget cuts and peace dividends got cut to 3. The Seawolf SSNs were also notorious for being finicky things with problems with stuffing so much cutting-edge equipment into the vessel.

And this is why 40 mm Bofors is rightfully considered the master race of the WWII light/medium AA guns.

Well, the only possible competition would be the German 5.5cm weapon (which was apparently designed to work with computer-based aiming instead of deflection-based aiming, given the sophisticated servo system) which would be used as the basis of the S-60 57mm AA guns.

Now for my tax:

The USS Long Beach, the first (and only) NATO nuclear-powered cruiser... armed with the Tatar/Talos missile AA (which can serve as an ASM in a pinch) system.

 

[gral]

Trouble is that the Zeros and indeed Oscars were lightly armoured, so while they might have had the speed they didn't really have the mass.

By themselves, yes(although from the A6M5 on, they weren't that lightly armoured). But Zeroes(again, from the A6M5 on) could carry 250 kg bombs, which I assume would be used in this case.

 

[Harlock]