Breaking News Violence resumes in Hong Kong.


Over fifty opposition politicians and activists were arrested in Hong Kong today, charged with Subversion under the new National Security Law that passed in the Summer.
 

Over fifty opposition politicians and activists were arrested in Hong Kong today, charged with Subversion under the new National Security Law that passed in the Summer.

And the world stands by and does nothing

I hope things actually change for the better there, they’re actually fighting back but if the CCP can’t have HK, I don’t think they’ll allow HK to even exist
 
And the world stands by and does nothing

I hope things actually change for the better there, they’re actually fighting back but if the CCP can’t have HK, I don’t think they’ll allow HK to even exist

Sadly, I agree. Everyone is too busy either squabbling over internal politics and/or dealing with the massive fallout of a lab accident in China called “COVID-19.”

China despises Hong Kong and always has. It’s outshone China for decades despite being so small, and China can’t abide anything but unquestioning obedience.

Who knows how the hell this will turn out. But short of World War III and Britain yanking it back, I don’t see things turning out well. Of course even in a World War III they wouldn’t turn out well but still...

Fuck China.
 
Sadly, I agree. Everyone is too busy either squabbling over internal politics and/or dealing with the massive fallout of a lab accident in China called “COVID-19.”

China despises Hong Kong and always has. It’s outshone China for decades despite being so small, and China can’t abide anything but unquestioning obedience.

Who knows how the hell this will turn out. But short of World War III and Britain yanking it back, I don’t see things turning out well. Of course even in a World War III they wouldn’t turn out well but still...

Fuck China.

I remember many years ago hearing about Hong Kong’s independence from the UK and reuniting with China and thought that was a good thing and something those HK-ers would like

I never expected things to start going bad

I remember my time in China sometime in highschool, whole place never really looked bad nor did I get the whole stuff about being Anti-Religious when my school kinda required we all go to Church on Sunday

Other than talks about how if you typed Tiannanmen Square there, I never really heard of anything going bad or the CCP doing something mega-asshole the whole few months I was there with my classmates

Could barely come up with anything bad to say about it other than the smog that goes away in the morning
 

An internet radio host was arrested for sedition under a colonial era rule apparently still on the books. He's the second radio host to befall this particular sedition law.
 
Man, I really wished we could be the America that Hong Kong believed in. But what could we have even done that wouldn't have just started WWIII and resulted in nukes being thrown?
At the very least, we could have opened up asylum to Hong Kongers, and I'm ashamed that Trump didn't do that. It was part of the reason I didn't end up voting for him (I didn't vote Biden either, it was between him and Jo Jorgensen).
 
At the very least, we could have opened up asylum to Hong Kongers, and I'm ashamed that Trump didn't do that. It was part of the reason I didn't end up voting for him (I didn't vote Biden either, it was between him and Jo Jorgensen).
I'd like to think the thought occurred to him, but his advisors from the GOP probably recommended he not do that. Trump would have been a much better president had he completely cut ties with the Republican party arm of the establishment from the beginning.
 
I'd like to think the thought occurred to him, but his advisors from the GOP probably recommended he not do that. Trump would have been a much better president had he completely cut ties with the Republican party arm of the establishment from the beginning.
I doubt this. Trump was consistently anti any immigration. In fact, the bill to support the Hong Kong stuff had some definite GOP support (Ted Cruz being an asshole ignored), but Trump didn't even back it. Trump actually actively harmed this by no longer considering Hong Kong separate than China when counting immigration (though this might be an oversight, it would be a massive one).
 
At the very least, we could have opened up asylum to Hong Kongers, and I'm ashamed that Trump didn't do that. It was part of the reason I didn't end up voting for him (I didn't vote Biden either, it was between him and Jo Jorgensen).
UK just did, and they kinda have better reasoning for that due to the history involved, i'd even go as far as saying that they have a better one than anyone else, and also with already existing groundwork for it that will limit abuses and not have some of the issues of ordinary refugee status.
BNO is a special status created under British law in 1987 that specifically relates to Hong Kong.
On top of that UK is also of slightly less interest for China to try sneak its agents of influence and spies through this route.
 
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UK just did, and they kinda have better reasoning for that due to the history involved, i'd even go as far as saying that they have a better one than anyone else, and also with already existing groundwork for it that will limit abuses and not have some of the issues of ordinary refugee status.

On top of that UK is also of slightly less interest for China to try sneak its agents of influence and spies through this route.
And I'm happy that the UK did. But the US, as the leader of the free world, should accept victims of communism that are fleeing, as we used to in the past. If you are concerned about spies, just never let them get into defense contracting. Putting a spy in as a refugee isn't all that useful.
 
And I'm happy that the UK did. But the US, as the leader of the free world, should accept victims of communism that are fleeing, as we used to in the past. If you are concerned about spies, just never let them get into defense contracting. Putting a spy in as a refugee isn't all that useful.
But this isn't the past, this is now. With a little bit of creativity you may end up with a quarter of South America, Africa and Asia on your doorstep this way, and among them there are some governments that in fact would not mind masses of dissidents removing themselves out of the picture of their own will at all - a viewpoint not exactly famous among old school communist governments.

Those who are more like the old school ones, like North Korea, ensure that there aren't too many leaving from their own side.
 
And I'm happy that the UK did. But the US, as the leader of the free world, should accept victims of communism that are fleeing, as we used to in the past. If you are concerned about spies, just never let them get into defense contracting. Putting a spy in as a refugee isn't all that useful.
You would be surprised. Spies don't have to be in defense contracting to be useful. Female ones especially
 

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