Breaking News Violence resumes in Hong Kong.

PsihoKekec

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How? They still wouldn't have guns and carrier battlegroup outside their territorial waters would be more likely to spur the government into cracking down on protestors harder, rather than relent in face of American pressure and appear weak.
 

Shipmaster Sane

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How? They still wouldn't have guns and carrier battlegroup outside their territorial waters would be more likely to spur the government into cracking down on protestors harder, rather than relent in face of American pressure and appear weak.
The only thing delaying the inevitable bulldozing of Hong Kong is their shoestring-thin connection to the west as it is, and there are already people being shot and beat to death in the streets.
 

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HK'ers using fucking target bows to try to fight riot police, not even like, high draw compounds that could at least conceivably have a meaningful effect, fucking target bows.

If the first time you think to acquire weapons and armor is when the fighting has started, you might as well not even fucking bother.
 

Floridaman

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It’s a rather unique way to deal with a population you are oppressing, send in another population that agrees almost entirely with your political ideaology and decisions and make sure they know how all they need to keep getting benefits’ to bow down to the guys responsible

Eventually people won’t even realise that Hong Kong’s population disappeared and was replaced
It really isn’t unique, that is considered standard in ethnic cleansing. Take a look at Lebensraum for instance, or the expulsion of people descended from German stock from Eastern Europe after the war.
whoops, just realized this was in reply to a message from last week sorry about that my WiFi isn’t good right now.
 

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HK'ers using fucking target bows to try to fight riot police, not even like, high draw compounds that could at least conceivably have a meaningful effect, fucking target bows.

If the first time you think to acquire weapons and armor is when the fighting has started, you might as well not even fucking bother.
Perfect time for CIA to make itself useful for once and smuggle in some proper weapons.
 

CarlManvers2019

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Perfect time for CIA to make itself useful for once and smuggle in some proper weapons.

Dude, this will result in guys in Hollywood and Far Left Academia going on about how the USA and Pro-Capitalism countries like in the Cold War, supported dictators and other governments who threw communists outside of helicopters

Sure said communists were just as bad or worse in-terms of making life and the local economies hell, but they ended up making said communists underdogs and sympathetic

Apparently Communism’s never successful because their Capitalist enemies refuse to trade or give aid or do stuff like go to war with them or stop their shipments or own sort of attempts at trade and other economic plans
 
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HK'ers using fucking target bows to try to fight riot police, not even like, high draw compounds that could at least conceivably have a meaningful effect, fucking target bows.

If the first time you think to acquire weapons and armor is when the fighting has started, you might as well not even fucking bother.

Improvised weapons can still work. In Budapest in '56 they dropped live trolley wire onto Soviet tanks in ambuscade and electrocuted the crews inside. In another incident they also pinned tanks up by flooding the streets with dish detergent from a factory's production tanks. It's not usually enough, of course.
 

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Dude, this will result in guys in Hollywood and Far Left Academia going on about how the USA and Pro-Capitalism countries like in the Cold War, supported dictators and other governments who threw communists outside of helicopters

Sure said communists were just as bad or worse in-terms of making life and the local economies hell, but they ended up making said communists underdogs and sympathetic

Apparently Communism’s never successful because their Capitalist enemies refuse to trade or give aid or do stuff like go to war with them or stop their shipments or own sort of attempts at trade and other economic plans
I'm not sure if you know this, but everyone already claims it was a CIA op.


Improvised weapons can still work. In Budapest in '56 they dropped live trolley wire onto Soviet tanks in ambuscade and electrocuted the crews inside. In another incident they also pinned tanks up by flooding the streets with dish detergent from a factory's production tanks. It's not usually enough, of course.
I'm not saying improvised weapons cant be useful, what I am saying is that if the day to fight arrives and everyone looks around and goes "NOW is when we start stockpiling weapons" you're already finished. Your people clearly dont have the will for an extended conflict.
 
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"Swole Trump" praised in Hong Kong.

President Trump is Hong Kong’s sudden hero.

Hours after he signed two bills to support human rights in Hong Kong, angering Chinese government officials, pro-democracy protesters in the beleaguered city held a “Thanksgiving Rally” Thursday night to commend him for taking the action.

And front and center at the rally were printouts of the president’s Wednesday tweet showing his head on Rocky Balboa’s chiseled body.

“Fight for freedom, stand with Hong Kong,” thousands of protestors chanted in a public square as they waved American flags and held up copies of the photo composite.

For the past six months, the former British colony has been rocked by mass protests that have spawned violence on both sides of the divide. More than 5,000 people have been detained since the discord began.

In the midst of a heated trade war between the US and China, Trump unexpectedly signed the two bills on Wednesday after they passed the House and Senate nearly unanimously, exacerbating Washington’s relationship with Beijing.

The new laws mandate sanctions on Chinese and Hong Kong officials who carry out human rights abuses on the semiautonomous island, require an annual review of Hong Kong’s trade status and prohibit the export of specific nonlethal weapons to Hong Kong police.

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Joshua Wong, a well-known pro-democracy activist who was among those who lobbied for the laws, told protesters Thursday their next goal is to get other Western leaders to follow in Trump’s footsteps in order to put pressure on the Chinese government to give in to their demands.

On the mainland, Chinese government officials were enraged by the new laws and said Trump is using Hong Kong as a pawn to hamper China’s growth and hit back at Beijing.

Chinese Vice Foreign Minister Le Yucheng told US Ambassador Terry Branstad that Beijing sees the move as “serious interference in China’s internal affairs and a serious violation of international law,” a ministry statement said.

Le went on to call it a “nakedly hegemonic act” and urged US officials to not implement the laws to avoid more damage to US relations with China, the ministry said.

In response, the US Embassy in Beijing said China’s Communist Party “must honor its promises to the Hong Kong people.”

The protests started in June over a Chinese extradition bill that pro-democracy protestors believed whittled away the freedoms promised to them when China regained control of Hong Kong from the United Kingdom in 1997.
 

Terthna

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I'm not sure if you know this, but everyone already claims it was a CIA op.
Everything that goes wrong in another country is the result of a CIA op, according to the regressive left; particularly if it makes their ideology look bad.

I'm not saying improvised weapons cant be useful, what I am saying is that if the day to fight arrives and everyone looks around and goes "NOW is when we start stockpiling weapons" you're already finished. Your people clearly dont have the will for an extended conflict.
Considering that the people of Hong Kong have been protesting for about six months without end, in spite of the abuses heaped upon them by their police, I wouldn't say they lack the will; merely the foresight to have thought to prepare for violent conflict with mainland China. A blunder, to be sure; but one could understand their willingness to believe in the fantasy that the western powers would do anything to force China to adhere to the "One country, two systems" deal.

Honestly, if Hillary had become president, instead of Trump; I doubt our country would have dared to even condemn any of China's recent actions, for fear of negatively impacting the economy and, more importantly, the pocketbooks of our elite class. Were it not for Trump, China would have long since sent in the army, and slaughtered everyone who dared to even think about opposing the CCP; and it probably would have been barely mentioned by anyone of note in western nations.
 

PsihoKekec

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Hong Kong is gonna literally be invaded by the Chinese Military and they’re not even gonna bother sparing the infrastructure are they
Unlikely, outright military assault would be admition of failiure, it's more likely they will bring police from other parts of China, give them Hong Kong uniforms and thus reinforce those who are already beating up people there.
Also more reliance on criminals and party members to form police supported ''concerned citizen'' thug groups.
 

CarlManvers2019

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Unlikely, outright military assault would be admition of failiure, it's more likely they will bring police from other parts of China, give them Hong Kong uniforms and thus reinforce those who are already beating up people there.

Don’t underestimate the logic of those who deal in/with power

That said, yeah, a bigger police force will be a less obvious way for them to take over

The CCP will have to do that tactic of sending lots of their supporters in with special benefits real quick
 
Sing Hallelujah to the Lord: The Anthem of Hong Kong
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Sing Hallelujah to the Lord

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n a footbridge leading to the Hong Kong’s Legislative Council building, about three dozen people are intoning “Sing Hallelujah to the Lord,” giving barely a pause after the short, four-line verse ends before starting it again.

Around the corner in Tamar Park, by the Central Government Offices, a group is singing the same hymn — and so is another down the road outside the Chief Executive’s Office.

The song is performed as a round. Its minor-key melody is heard everywhere at the mass demonstrations against Hong Kong’s controversial extradition bill and has become the movement’s anthem.

The reason? Religious gatherings are exempt from the definition of a “gathering” or “assembly” under Hong Kong’s Public Order Ordinance and are thus more difficult to police.

The Christian hymn was written by the Indiana-born Linda Stassen in 1974. According to the Complete Book of Hymns, Stassen was a follower of the Jesus People movement and wrote the song as an assignment for a music composition class, with the words inspired by the early Church. The song has since been included in many Christian hymnals, its popularity stemming from its austere, beautiful simplicity.

I had missed this before, and it beautifully illustrates the fundamental alignment with our values that the protesters in Hong Kong hold.
 

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