Breaking News Violence resumes in Hong Kong.

[PsihoKekec]

It's similar to situation in Yemen, we hardly hear anything about the war there, while in Syrian war we heard about every bomb dropped and every missile fired. Not to mention the destruction of the last hospital in Aleppo every two or three days.

 

[Scottty]

It's similar to situation in Yemen, we hardly hear anything about the war there, while in Syrian war we heard about every bomb dropped and every missile fired. Not to mention the destruction of the las hospital in Aleppo every two or three days.

We get Al Jazeera news here, and it's been Yemen, Yemen, Yemen...

 

[PsihoKekec]

That's because it is owned by Qattar royal family which is at odds with Saudis. The rest of MSM almost completely ignores the Yemen war.

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

I'm never surprised at a MSM blackout, but what's weird to me is that I don't see much conversation about it online, when previous violent protests were so focused on.

 

[Scottty]

That's because it is owned by Qattar royal family which is at odds with Saudis. The rest of MSM almost completely ignores the Yemen war.

Yeah, they also keep going on about that journalist who was murdered in the Saudi embassy in Turkey.
Of course, the case is still going on, but the Al Jazeera people obviously think it important.

 

[prinCZess]

So the HK authorities barred face-masks (using emergency-measure laws still on the books from when Britain was in charge so...irony?) at protests as another measure to try and tamp-down on the protests, but protests continued and there was another confrontation--plainclothes*/off-duty HK police officer drove by, there was a clash upon which we have little details, and a 14-year-old protestor ended up being shot (nonfatally) by the officer who then got molotov cocktails thrown at him and forced to flee the scene.


*It seems to me that this being a thing might not be a good idea with the...both allegations and seeming evidence of HK government officials doing so as a way to both suppress the protests and simultaneously make them look worse.

 

[Deleted member]

Once escalation begins, it's much harder to stop. And of course the global elites have a vested interest in suppressing any evidence of bloodshed as much as possible to keep business ties with the Reds good.

 

[Deleted member]

So, in the latest escalation of words from the Red Chinese government...

China's President Xi Jinping has issued a stern warning against dissent as protests continue in Hong Kong, saying any attempt to divide China will end in "crushed bodies and shattered bones".

His comments came during a state visit to Nepal on Sunday, China's state broadcaster CCTV said.

Several peaceful Hong Kong rallies descended into clashes between riot police and protesters on Sunday.

Public transport stations and shops deemed to be pro-Beijing were damaged.

Several neighbourhoods saw rallies, and by Sunday afternoon at least 27 stations on the MTR - Hong Kong's metro - were closed.

Police said they had used "minimum force" to disperse protesters, but television footage showed weekend shoppers caught in the chaos.

Some were filmed screaming and apparently injured as officers rushed into a shopping centre.

According to Reuters news agency, riot police with shields were forced out of one mall by chanting shoppers who took the side of the protesters.

Petrol bombs were thrown at Mong Kok police station, and one officer was slashed in the neck, authorities say. He is in a stable condition in hospital, the South China Morning Post reports.

A second man was allegedly beaten by protesters who found a baton in his bag and believed he was an undercover police officer.

Embedding police among the protesters has paid tactical dividends for the Hong Kong force, and spread paranoia among the mostly young activists.

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Overnight on Sunday, one group of protesters hauled a three-metre-high (9-ft) statue of a protester on to Lion Rock, a famous outcrop overlooking Hong Kong.

The statue, Lady Liberty, has become a symbol of the rallies, and sports a gas mask, goggles and a helmet.

She represents an injured protester who demonstrators believe was shot in the eye by a police projectile.

The group of several dozen, some wearing head lamps, climbed the 500m peak during a thunderstorm. The statue held a black banner that read: "Revolution of our time, Liberate Hong Kong."

Image copyrightEPAImage captionThe "Lady Liberty" statue was installed on Hong Kong's Lion Rock overnight by several protesters

Hong Kong's protests started in June against proposals to allow extradition to mainland China, a move many feared would undermine the city's judicial independence and endanger dissidents.

The bill has long been withdrawn, but protests have widened to include demands for full democracy and an inquiry into claims of police brutality.

Earlier this month, the city's government used a colonial-era emergency law to ban the wearing of face masks at public rallies - but demonstrators vowed to defy it.

More than 2,300 people have been arrested since the civil disobedience began.

 

[prinCZess]

In an update to the story of ongoing protests in Hong Kong, another protestor was shot by police a few days ago. That's in turn inflamed more protests, particularly at public universities in the city, with CUHK (China University of Hong Kong) becoming a flashpoint for more protests and police attempts at suppressing them that's more widely publicized and 'visible' because of journalists and the campus own TV and journalists recording things (below).




A recent overview of things by reporters that's worth a watch.

 

[Spartan303]

This is going to keep being a thing.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

This is going to keep being a thing.

If Hong Kong ever gets independence, expect China to use political and economic pressures to try getting it back before trying out the military

Also, slander, lots of slandering them as a bunch of fascists

 

[Lanmandragon]

If Hong Kong ever gets independence, expect China to use political and economic pressures to try getting it back before trying out the military

Also, slander, lots of slandering them as a bunch of fascists

Projection China is more or less a facist state. An actual one not what "liberals" say one is.

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

If Hong Kong ever gets independence, expect China to use political and economic pressures to try getting it back before trying out the military

Also, slander, lots of slandering them as a bunch of fascists

Realistically I dont see any chance that HK survives in it's current state. Either they'll fight, and be destroyed, or submit, and be destroyed.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Projection China is more or less a facist state. An actual one not what "liberals" say one is.

Eh, they’re too used to the versions Hollywood and Academia gives

Realistically I dont see any chance that HK survives in it's current state. Either they'll fight, and be destroyed, or submit, and be destroyed.

Submit and be destroyed economically speaking....they will exist as a reminder to everybody else

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

Submit and be destroyed economically speaking....they will exist as a reminder to everybody else

Well, certainly there would be people in a place called Hong Kong, though even a complete surrender would come with plenty of behind the scenes purging either via prison or straight up murder.

 

[Hlaalu Agent]

Projection China is more or less a facist state. An actual one not what "liberals" say one is.

Is it though? I am not sure if it fits the ideological qualifications, but I do know that it is pretty close, but even if it is close, we stil shouldn't toss that label around when it doesn't apply.

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

If these HKers think that the time to start acquiring weapons is after the shooting starts in earnest boy... are they in for it.

 

[S'task]

Is it though? I am not sure if it fits the ideological qualifications, but I do know that it is pretty close, but even if it is close, we stil shouldn't toss that label around when it doesn't apply.

You need to look into how the government promotes the ethnic Han at the expense of all other ethnicities. You also have a lot of direct government control and intervention in the economy, which is a core mark of a Fascist state. Strong degrees of nationalism, hell, you even have the persecution narrative and a push for resurgence into areas that are "historically" their domain. You also have aggrandizing of the military, government control and censorship of media, oh, and ethnically based concentration and "reeducation" camps.

Mainland China is as close as any government gets to fascism in the world today, and it's only a polite fiction that nobody calls them that.

 

[Deleted member]

Is it though? I am not sure if it fits the ideological qualifications, but I do know that it is pretty close, but even if it is close, we stil shouldn't toss that label around when it doesn't apply.

I think it's like every other communist state that's ever existed, myself. They're just in a "War Communism" phase of allowing more capitalism. Their objective remains to implement socialism, and their actual policy remains enriching the elites, just like by the end the People's Republic of Yugoslavia had people mocking the communists as only loving money.

 

[Lanmandragon]

Is it though? I am not sure if it fits the ideological qualifications, but I do know that it is pretty close, but even if it is close, we stil shouldn't toss that label around when it doesn't apply.

Hence the more or less...