Certified_Heterosexual
The Falklands are Serbian, you cowards.
The libertarian response to this has been equal parts hilarious and infuriating:
United States Unidentified Federal Agents conducting unmarked vehicle snatches of protestors in Portland
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Terthna
Professional Lurker
Well the Libertarian party certainly seems interested in courting their votes, no matter how alienating it makes them to their core voting base.
CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
Libertarian Party, I spit on the concept, it defeats its own purpose and will make compromise after compromise
r/Libertarian was taken by the LibLeft/AuthLeft
They may take over even a Conservative party with time
It wasn't exactly a popular move in the party, and over all she's one of the more out of touch candates the party has had.
CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
By out-of-touch, you mean naive?
Terthna
Professional Lurker
Their candidates keep getting worse every election; I cannot believe I actually used to consider voting for the Libertarian party.
At least the Canadian one had a waifu, yours has Aleppo.
CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
Keep it as a set of principles rather than an organized group with a set of laws and bureacracy, as much as possible
All of the third parties are advancing literal nobodies this year.
In previous years the Libertarian party featured former Governors and Congressional leaders for their party. The Green Party had people with some name recognition like Ralph Nader and Jill Stein.
This election year it's literal nobodies. We're back to the Michael Badnarik era of the Libertarian Party.
Who is Michael Badnarik you ask?
Exactly.
prinCZess
Warrior, Writer, Performer, Perv
What is Aleppo?
That wasn't very wanted-for-tax-fraud and person-of-interest in Bolivian murder investigation John McAfee of you.
You can't be a nobody if you've screwed a whale.
Federal intervention in Portland deserves a critical look, to say the least.
That said, there is a cosmic irony in the people most commonly wanting such tactics focused on their enemies (the Bundy occupation of Malheur as a Oregon-specific example where you had people of the protestors ideological brand advocating drone strikes) now appealing for the defense of principles they never extended (and have actively denied) to their opponents.
Terthna
Professional Lurker
After having given it a critical look myself, it is my opinion that nothing the feds have done in Portland in response to the riots is objectionable in any way whatsoever; most of the complaints and criticisms regarding their conduct is either based on misunderstandings, or outright lies. Look, I get that the potential violation of personal rights by government officials is a hot-button issue for a lot of people here; but I have seen no evidence to suggest that the feds in Portland have done any such thing.What is Aleppo?
That wasn't very wanted-for-tax-fraud and person-of-interest in Bolivian murder investigation John McAfee of you.
You can't be a nobody if you've screwed a whale.
Federal intervention in Portland deserves a critical look, to say the least.
That said, there is a cosmic irony in the people most commonly wanting such tactics focused on their enemies (the Bundy occupation of Malheur as a Oregon-specific example where you had people of the protestors ideological brand advocating drone strikes) now appealing for the defense of principles they never extended (and have actively denied) to their opponents.
I wouldn't say the Feds conduct hasn't been objectionable in Portland. There's things that are objectionable but its just exaggerated by the media and their protesting adversaries to the point of just not giving an F if you were one of the handful of apparently suspicious people inconvenienced for a few hours one night a few weeks ago.
It pales in comparison to the actual lawlessness going on and how local and state authorities are complicit in it.
Absolutely no one was upset by your participation in the White History Month thread. That was gold.
It pales in comparison to the actual lawlessness going on and how local and state authorities are complicit in it.
Absolutely no one was upset by your participation in the White History Month thread. That was gold.
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What is Aleppo?
That wasn't very wanted-for-tax-fraud and person-of-interest in Bolivian murder investigation John McAfee of you.
You can't be a nobody if you've screwed a whale.
I was happy that when John McAfee dropped out, he endorsed the equally memeworthy candidate Vermin Supreme but alas, it did not salvage either of their political prospects and boring bland Jo Jorgensen (I mean I guess the name is kinda funny) ran instead.
The Malheur Occupation did last a fair bit longer then CHAZ as well. What was amazing, besides me thinking all of those Bundy's were justifiably rightly screwed when the Feds mass arrested them all, was that the BLM (no not that BLM) was apparently so biased and prejudiced in their investigation of the Bundy gang that somehow resulted in the ringleaders getting acquitted or charges dropped, and only the low level types who plead guilty getting probation and a half dozen low level prison sentences.
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I voted Vermin Supreme. I was very sad he lost. I'm stuck voting Jo now. She's not great, but a hell of a lot better than either of the other options. Also, it's more likely my vote will matter voting for her. If we hit certain thresholds, the LP gets ballot access, and potentially campaign finance money (though I doubt LP would take it).
One of the greatest mysteries known to man.
That wasn't very wanted-for-tax-fraud and person-of-interest in Bolivian murder investigation John McAfee of you.
You can't be a nobody if you've screwed a whale.
John "Madlad" McAfee, the most interesting man in the world.
Perhaps it does, but these people are sieging a court house. Indeed it is ironic, they cry out for the same law they deride.
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Antifa is trying very very hard to provoke a Kent State. They’ve spent the past week trying to manipulate the public with the supposed mothers and veterans and shit. They hope that if the Feds shoot one of them, they can spin a narrative of “Ebul Trump!” “Muh fascism” and shift public opinion on their side.
While at the same time they are outright challenging federal authority, and if the Feds just surrender, they basically have surrendered the monopoly on force. Such as it is.
It’s a very bad situation as the Feds can’t cut loose and just spray live rounds into the rioters, and they also can’t be seen just fleeing or giving up.
It’s literally optics managed insurrection.
While at the same time they are outright challenging federal authority, and if the Feds just surrender, they basically have surrendered the monopoly on force. Such as it is.
It’s a very bad situation as the Feds can’t cut loose and just spray live rounds into the rioters, and they also can’t be seen just fleeing or giving up.
It’s literally optics managed insurrection.
Its a shit situation.
But its one where I think the feds have two edges.
Time and resources.
Antifa is running on a clock, the feds are not. The federal government can sit down and take the time to get names, to get resources. They can collect evidence and can wait. They also have the resources of billions of dollars to through at this problem and their power has been directly challenged. I don't a single country on earth that tolerates that long term.
I think that the feds can play the long game and send pretty much the whole leadership and quite a few of the rank and file to prison for a long time. Antifa cant play that long game, their already biting the hand that feeds them, are deeply resented by a growing majority of the country and secretly loathed by a lot of the people they have fucked over.
When the hammer comes down its going to come down hard.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
Good. Dealing with violent arsonists and rioters is well within the remit of government authority.