Sounds like he is about to learn the Feds don't play around.
United States Unidentified Federal Agents conducting unmarked vehicle snatches of protestors in Portland
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Thats only true if you manage to sucessfully piss them off. I'm kind of wondering what it will take to successfully piss off the feds.
CarlManvers2019
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Maybe killing and maiming them via explosives and somehow managing to isolate and gang up some and then proceed to brutalize them whilst bragging about it on social media?
There’s a limit to how much abuse those on the ground can take
It’d be like returning from a war that was extremely hellish, only to return home to people calling you baby killers and other horrible shit
Threatining to arrest them for doing their jobs, attacking them.
Im actually very eager to see one of these asshole DA's stop talking about arresting the feds and actually do it.
They wont. Federal law beats state
And your shining city on a hill has streets filled with excrement, individuals dying left and right and in the name of Freedom a city block or two is sacrificed every year in the name of "combating racism and tyranny"...Yielding it over, ironically to the racists and the tyrants.
Saying "I'm willing to allow America to be euthanized for the sake of her values" is the position of an ideology that is not only doomed to extinction but will inevitably be replaced by something far less conservative, far more culturally imperialistic and far more right wing than you care for.
My issue is that's its all for show. Most Antifa leaders are heavily connected, some of the most violent Antifa thugs are the sons and daughters of FBI agents and Prosecutors and grandchildren of Judges.
So Giuliani is right when he says nothing is going to come of this because the Criminal Justice system has been totally infiltrated and is more or less lost. I'd be more sympathetic to paramilitary vigilantism against rioters at this point, since at least that would be something that would achieve results..however disastrous.
This is just showmanship.
or that is to say, when Antifa types start getting handed out life sentences, I'll believe it.
Clearing out terrorists who are outright attempting to murder American citizens is not the act of a dictatorship. Do you want to commit cultural and national suicide for principles that have lost all meaning due to the American Rights repeated and relentless, yielding, conceding and compromising?
What did it for me was watching the GOP punch to their right relentlessly, while yielding ground to the left. I also, lived through the collapse of a country due to Social justice advocates rioting and burning shit down and forcing socialism on the land at the barrel of a suspiciously loaded ballot box.
To see it happen again in the country I fled too and to see the cowardice of the American right and how they mask their complacency in a mongrelized interpretation of their values sickens and disheartens me.
Naw, it should be civilians on the street but backed by a strong right wing party.
The US needs its own version of the Argentine Anticommunist Alliance. Only with less overt Federal backing
if by some miracle Trump wins in 2020, he needs his own version of Jose Lopez Rega..And considering he's an avid student of Peronism and people like Felipe Varela and Juan Manuel De Rosas...Maybe he'll actually nut up and do it as opposed to..."monitoring the situation' while traitors around him erode his position, his voterbase grows increasingly demoralized and the nation burns.
Fucking Amen.
Listen, you people, the purists..Have already lost, you have committed cultural and political suicide.
Don't drag the rest of us with you into the shattered, decaying ruins of Reagan's shining city on a hill. A City, made a necropolis by your neurotic need to mask capitulation in conviction.
Let us remove the festering waste and turn the lights back on..Then after we've done that and put some paint on the buildings and hired some maids and janitors to do the real ugly work..Maybe when all that's said and done, there;s a place for you to come back and hyperventilate about how its important to kill ourselves for ideals that can't survive in the world our enemies are building okay?
Can you do that?
Please?
To quote a recent Oceanic maniac.
"Fuck your optics"
In the immortal words of Ronald Reagan
oh shut up
And this is even with Federal Prosecutors trying to frame right wing groups because they're programmed to see leftist terrorists as sympathetic...We're way passed the point where American citizens can trust anyone to resolve this, except themselves.
The Republicans haven't moved to the right since the 90's what are you talking about? they're moving closer to the left and abandoning conservativism entirely.
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The proper response to some spoiled college kids with no life experience having a fit is to make them face up to the legal consequences of thier behavior, not to murder them in the streets.
"You've committed political sucide, unlike me and my faction that looks up to mass murderers, we will surely succeed where your platform of "basic civil decency" and "core values of our nation" has failed. And we can see you failed, because there's persistent civil unrest in one far left city and a bunch of people too lost to tribalism to condemn it"......yeah, that sounds convincing.
If people like you actually try to "remove the fester waste" (that is, murder a bunch of your fellow citizens for the high crime of being stupid), one of two things will happen.
You'll either be crushed immediately and become yet another thing the other side tries to tar is all with, or worse, you'll actually succeed in getting something going, get yourselves killed in the resulting civil war, and leave the rest of us to pick up the pieces.
....I'm baffled that you think appealing to the words of a mass murdering psychopath is supposed to be some kind of counterargument, particularly because we've seen the after effects of his actions, which were at best utterly ineffective and more commonly had the opposite of his intended goal.
You're like a bad parody of right wing beliefs, and at this point, I'm becoming increasingly convinced that's exactly what you are.
CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
Only problem is that the law is on their side, or they'll get released ASAP
In-Hindsight, they're already breaking a bunch of laws, only problem is that they're NOT being enforced
Hell, that lawyer-couple actually did nothing wrong or didn't break any laws, I think even what the law was doing like confiscating their guns was technically illegal too
LifeisTiresome
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Unlikely to happen. There are those who say that let the enemy win. Their kill squads will wipe out the centrists or push them into your camp cause of fear upon which you then destroy the leftists.
Such is war. Ugliness everywhere.
Which is why they're getting federal attention now, and its why the people making those calls are accountable to the public....and if not, so what? If the people of Portland decide that they want to live in a world where there livelihoods exist at the sufferance of the nearest gender studies major......so what? That's not my problem, I don't live in Portland, and as a far I know neither do you so it's not your problem either.
Which is why the state AG said "what on earth are you doing, this is wrong, drop those charges right now".
Right, because that's all it is. It's totally not a vicious militia, coordinated, very well organized and backed by corrupt prosecutors, treacherous Judges and supported by the Democratic party and funded by the People's Republic of China.
Antifa and BLM are totally not paramilitary wings of a deconstructivist party hellbent on completely tearing the nation down. They're just bored college kids..yeah okay
Ah, I must be a fascist because I see the writing on the wall. Brilliant, this is totally not a strawman used against you guys, that has no legitimacy and detracts from your overall point once used?
600 people are dead, it was well over two dozen cities and it was nearly three months without stopping.
You're making a lot of inferences there buddy.
Naw, lets be real here..it won't be the GOP that picks up the pieces, nor constitutional literalists, nor Libertarians. If the counter cultural reaction from a right wing element fails..there won't be anyone left to pick anything up.
My use of that idiot's words were intended to make a point.
That by your aiding and abetting of this slow decay into collapse, by your over-tolerance and your willingness to sacrifice culture to adhere to admittedly very important words that are now losing their meaning because of the cultural changes.
You and Big Steve and millions like you, by your inaction have made that piece of shit seem less like a violent maniac and more like a prophet.
What's coming as a result of that effects us all, it hurts us all, it maims us all, it denigrates us all. And you know what? Damn you, damn you and your sanctimony for letting things get to that point.
That isn't on the American left, you hypocrites could have stopped them but you didn't and that's on you and go to hell for trying to deny that.
Or you're just another clown willing to kill his country to defend ideals that can't survive without said country and are having such an intense emotional reaction to some hard truth's you're missing my points.
Thus proving them?
I'm not so sure about that..Centrists when confronted with this level of ugliness tend to radicalize really quickly and they tend to push far to the right..Historically that's always been the case.
And that, I'd argue is why things get so ugly. Because civil strife makes fundamentalists of us all
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Do you have a source on the 600 people dead as a result of this unrest? I know people have died, but I haven't heard a number so large until now. I'm curious where that's coming from and how true it may or may not be.
CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
Well, I think in a way Portland and its like are trying to make a pseudo-nation of their own or use them as a base to take over the rest of the USA
Tyranny's not needed to fight their Tyranny
Though, they'll call Trump and anyone else who's saner tyrants anyway
Places like Portland and such may have a "silent majority" who will vote Trump in, if only because they've come to hate and fear their Far Left counterparts and even get a 1984-esque feeling from them
It was a townhall article, I'll dig it up, though I think they mixed general urban violence caused deaths with the riots.
Another source I saw had it at 2,000 and 10,000 sexual assaults. The 2k deaths I find to be bullshit, but the ten thousand sexual assaults is entirely believable. We had that many rapes during the riots in 2001 in Buenos Aires and they didn't cover more than a fraction of the distance and scale these did.,
Six Weeks, Six Cities, 600 Murders
townhall.com
They've been trying and utterly failing to take down a chain link fence for like two weeks now. If this is the best that the elite paramilitary wing of the DNC can do, I shudder to imagine what the B team is like.
Well no, it's totally not a strawman because I didn't call you a facist, I don't think nearly so highly of you to assume your political beliefs are that coherent.
And then it stopped and is down to nothing more than a handful of liberal hotspots.
I'm just going by observed history, if you'd care to cite a time when someone used your playbook and it all worked out, go ahead.
Sure they were, just like you saying we needed Argentina style death squads was just "making a point".
No, I'm just disappointed that you're such a feeble, hateful, cowardly, stupid fool that you'd pronounce that all is lost and the only solution is mass murder.....because of some minor rioting and a pack of idiots that can't get past or take out a chain link fence.
Portland can't make the federal government take down a fence, let alone take over the country. And if they want to take advantage of federalism to abolish the police and make thier own little mad max hellscape, fine. Let em. They'll make a good object lesson for those still capable of reason, and a better litmus test to find those who aren't.
Possibly, it's hard to say.
CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
It'll take a few more years, but I say that the Far Left is DYING
The only way they can really get more voters is if they get them illegally or import them en masse
How fortunate for those few Federals officers, not in the six hundred body count then.
Ah, so you're just butthurt that you got called a cuckold then? Gotcha. But it is what it what is.
Meanwhile the US is still undersiege and you guys are still doing fuck all to deal with it.
For now, its adorable that you think it won't ratchet up again as soon as is convenient.
"my playbook" is not something I'm endorsing, I'm more lamenting that we've reached this point. But hey while we're on the topic.
it worked for about eight centuries in Japan, a millennium in Rome and about five decades in Taiwan and well Chile did pretty damn good. Argentina admittedly shit the bed, but that's what happens when you let schizophrenics run your dictatorship and drug lords run the military outfits on the streets.
Which is why I'm so alarmed...Because when you people fail to act, you make gilded ages look real sexy.
I said we needed vigilantism to deal with this, which the AAA started was before it became the AAA (It was a fusion of several civilian militias brought under Rega's umbrella), it became something else entirely as the situation escalated. But hey there were other Argentina right wing groups who conducted vigilantism I could cite, none of them have articles sadly.
Not wanting to commit national suicide = Cowardice..ah yes...It certainly is cowardly not to want to see this nation survive so it can become strong and healthy again when the dust settles.
Selectively ignore the dozens of other cities on fire, the malicious prosecution of honest citizens defending themselves against the mob and the murder of a mother with a toddler because she said all lives matter...Or the calls for genocide against whites and Jews by BLM leaders and the constant threats, supported by members of congress to "tear down this country" to maintain your narrative of moral cowardice.
By all means
LifeisTiresome
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according to who? They practically rule everything with universities, colleges, democratic party and corporations.
Thats the plan
CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
Those universities/colleges are a waste of cash, eventually people will stop going to them and do homeschooling/online-classes and tradeschools except for the douchebags rioting on the streets right now
The democratic party can go fuck itself, well it already is and is increasing its STD levels whilst wallowing in crap
The corporations, I think some can still go un-WOKE, though yeah hard to get them to change even with a loss in profits and the heads may just run away with the cash rather than fix the companies. Hopefully, they and their companies get replaced by guys more in line with customers.
Hope Trump’s wall’s working and getting through via airports and oceans don’t work as well and that Mexico gets pissed further at being used as a springboard