United States Unidentified Federal Agents conducting unmarked vehicle snatches of protestors in Portland

[Sir 1000]

Even if the worst was true (which i doubt) the left has repeatedly shown the only reason they don't do things like this is because they don't have the power to do so yet😒

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Even if the worst was true (which i doubt) the left has repeatedly shown the only reason they don't do things like this is because they don't have the power to do so yet😒

May not stop them from acting as if they do

 

[Zachowon]

Problem is, there are gonna be too many people to arrest and they maybe hanging out with each other

HAHAHA There is not to many. They can make arrests even after the riots die down

 

[CarlManvers2019]

HAHAHA There is not to many. They can make arrests even after the riots die down

You sure they can't get lost in the crowd? I mean can they really go through investigating every single face caught on video and picture

It might make em all burn out

 

[Zachowon]

You sure they can't get lost in the crowd? I mean can they really go through investigating every single face caught on video and picture

It might make em all burn out

It is pretty easy to do these searches honestly;y.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

It is pretty easy to do these searches honestly;y.

Will they have to type down warrants for each and spend a few hours on each dude?

 

[Zachowon]

Will they have to type down warrants for each and spend a few hours on each dude?

It takes a couple key presses for each warrant

 

[CarlManvers2019]

It takes a couple key presses for each warrant

I think some rich kids, the kids of federal agents or FBI and the like, the kids of politicians and their associates will be using whatever connections they can, to delay the arrival as much as possible

This is gonna be a nightmare for them either way

 

[Husky_Khan]

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You gotta tag Carl Manvers directly. Don't worry he's not hard to find.

Just make an on topic thread in 'Versus & What If' forum and use the appropriate thread prefix.

 

[Knowledgeispower]

Antifa is trying very very hard to provoke a Kent State. They’ve spent the past week trying to manipulate the public with the supposed mothers and veterans and shit. They hope that if the Feds shoot one of them, they can spin a narrative of “Ebul Trump!” “Muh fascism” and shift public opinion on their side.

While at the same time they are outright challenging federal authority, and if the Feds just surrender, they basically have surrendered the monopoly on force. Such as it is.

It’s a very bad situation as the Feds can’t cut loose and just spray live rounds into the rioters, and they also can’t be seen just fleeing or giving up.

It’s literally optics managed insurrection.

The situation in Portland is literally what they built the ADS for. I say that after a federal courthouse being besieged for over a month it's use has been more than warranted. Besides it cost us good money to develop that thing

 

[Terthna]

Its a shit situation.

But its one where I think the feds have two edges.

Time and resources.

Antifa is running on a clock, the feds are not. The federal government can sit down and take the time to get names, to get resources. They can collect evidence and can wait. They also have the resources of billions of dollars to through at this problem and their power has been directly challenged. I don't a single country on earth that tolerates that long term.

I think that the feds can play the long game and send pretty much the whole leadership and quite a few of the rank and file to prison for a long time. Antifa cant play that long game, their already biting the hand that feeds them, are deeply resented by a growing majority of the country and secretly loathed by a lot of the people they have fucked over.

When the hammer comes down its going to come down hard.

Unfortunately, it looks like some local governments are gearing up to do everything they can to stop that from happening:


They're literally refusing to acknowledge the authority of the federal government, and things could escalate off of this into outright civil war.

 

[LordSunhawk]

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Anybody can post in staff communications, so if you need to contact admin just post there

 

[FriedCFour]

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Do you have information that will lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton?

 

[FriedCFour]

Also can we change the title? They are clearly identified feds. They have their identification all over them and uniforms.

 

[Sir 1000]

Do you have information that will lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton?

Good god man! Are you trying to get him to commit suicide by piranhas?😄

 

[Knowledgeispower]

Do you have information that will lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton?

Honestly if the Feds wanted the Clinton's to disappear since they can't stick a crime to them when easily should be able to the next time they take a flight across the ocean the plane would vanish. Of course the odds of that happening are roughly one in a billion

 

[Deleted member 88]

Unfortunately, it looks like some local governments are gearing up to do everything they can to stop that from happening:


They're literally refusing to acknowledge the authority of the federal government, and things could escalate off of this into outright civil war.

This strikes me as posturing. It’s one thing to thump your chest and say “we ain’t gonna let trump’s stormtroopers oppress our cities”, it’s entirely different to order city police to interfere with Feds discharging their duties.

Such a confrontation would either end in the local cops backing the Feds and turning on their superiors or in the worst case-become a shoot out which is really bad in the precedent it sets-which leads to civil war inexorably.

It’s the sort of move that if taken you can’t back away from.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

This strikes me as posturing. It’s one thing to thump your chest and say “we ain’t gonna let trump’s stormtroopers oppress our cities”, it’s entirely different to order city police to interfere with Feds discharging their duties.

Such a confrontation would either end in the local cops backing the Feds and turning on their superiors or in the worst case-become a shoot out which is really bad in the precedent it sets-which leads to civil war inexorably.

It’s the sort of move that if taken you can’t back away from.

Alternatively, the cops decide that they’re essentially being ordered to commit suicide

Suicide is NOT what they signed up for

It’d be like expecting a hired bodyguard to step off the rooftop so that his boss can use said death as a distraction for something

 

[Vaermina]

This strikes me as posturing. It’s one thing to thump your chest and say “we ain’t gonna let trump’s stormtroopers oppress our cities”, it’s entirely different to order city police to interfere with Feds discharging their duties.

Such a confrontation would either end in the local cops backing the Feds and turning on their superiors or in the worst case-become a shoot out which is really bad in the precedent it sets-which leads to civil war inexorably.

It’s the sort of move that if taken you can’t back away from.

That's because it is posturing for the crowd.

Any DA worth their salt would know the Feds are perfectly within their legal rights to do what they are doing.

 

[Airedale260]

Alternatively, the cops decide that they’re essentially being ordered to commit suicide

Suicide is NOT what they signed up for

It’d be like expecting a hired bodyguard to step off the rooftop so that his boss can use said death as a distraction for something

The Philly PD despises the DA and vice versa. He's a left-wing civil rights lawyer who got in by bashing the PPD (which, don't get me wrong, has a *significant* number of issues itself) but they aren't going to stick their necks out for him.

Any DA worth their salt would know the Feds are perfectly within their legal rights to do what they are doing.

Yeah, about that...this is Larry Krasner we're discussing, and he most definitely is not worth his salt. Or anything else. He's let a lot of things slide that no self respecting DA would, because he's firmly in the "fuck da police" category of lawyers.

In fact, William McSwain (the U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of PA) has brought a number of cases that Krasner refused to bring. So the two men can't stand each other as it is. Yes, that's right, Krasner wants to arrest the feds for doing their jobs when he himself refuses to do his own.