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Which is... not what Trump did?
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Which is... not what Trump did?
bintananth
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Welp, this just happened:
www.justice.gov
Arthur Ray Hanson, II has fucked up so badly that a federal grand jury is now involed in Fani Willis' RICO case aganst Trump.
Alabama man indicted for threatening Fulton County District Attorney and Sheriff regarding Trump case
Arthur Ray Hanson, II, has been indicted by a federal grand jury in Atlanta on charges of transmitting interstate threats to injure Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis and Fulton County Sheriff Patrick Labat because of their connections to the Fulton County, Georgia, investigation of...
Arthur Ray Hanson, II has fucked up so badly that a federal grand jury is now involed in Fani Willis' RICO case aganst Trump.
bintananth
behind a desk
No. "He said it was ok" - along with extremely large cheques - has let both him and others like him get away with shitloads of crimes.
Bigking321
Well-known member
Huh... glad to see the fbi taking threats against law enforcement so seriously.
Shame they didn't when the Supreme Court was ruling on roe v wade and they were getting all kinds of threats. Did anyone even get charged for any of that? I can't remember.
no one....yet.
The reaction to all of this is starting but its just starting the real crazy shit is going to take decades to pop off.
Blasterbot
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Now Now. I'm sure if Someone threatened Sotomayor the FBI and the Marshalls would be on it like Flies on shit.
bintananth
behind a desk
Trump is set to testify today and tomorrow in the NY fraud case.
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www.reuters.com
Donald Trump to testify in New York fraud case that threatens his business
Donald Trump returns to a New York courtroom on Monday, where he will take the witness stand in a civil fraud trial that threatens to diminish the real-estate empire that built his reputation before he entered politics.
www.reuters.com
DarthOne
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Judge Engoron Claims He is ‘Not Here to Listen to What’ Trump has to Say During Testimony
No wonder we cannot have cameras in the courtroom. Absolute circus.
legalinsurrection.com
Clown circus
Blasterbot
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at least he is honest about it. this isn't about anything other than getting the bad orange man.Judge Engoron Claims He is ‘Not Here to Listen to What’ Trump has to Say During Testimony
No wonder we cannot have cameras in the courtroom. Absolute circus.
Clown circus
StormEagle
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…In a sane world, a statement like that from the presiding judge would be enough to get any ruling thrown out on appeal.Judge Engoron Claims He is ‘Not Here to Listen to What’ Trump has to Say During Testimony
No wonder we cannot have cameras in the courtroom. Absolute circus.
Clown circus
I agree with @StormEagle on this one. This is very handy appeal fodder.
bintananth
behind a desk
That article is abridging what the judge actually said to make him look biased. Here's what he actually said to Alina Habba:
"I'm not here to hear what he has to say. I'm here to hear him answer questions. Sit down already." - Judge Engoron
He was getting upset with Trump's tendency to give long-winded responses that didn't address the question Trump had been asked.
Vyor
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... that is literally part of cross examining the defendant. If you can't keep him on track as the prosecutor it is your fault. We have rules for this type of thing.
bintananth
behind a desk
*sigh*
It's part of the judge's job to keep everyone on topic. This includes telling a witness to, in more polite terms, "Stop dicking around and wasting the court's time. Answer the damn question."
A judge doesn't want to hear a dissertation when a simple "yes" or "no" will suffice.
Vyor
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No, the prosecution asks if they can treat the person, the defendant in this case, as a hostile witness. This allows things like leading questions and cutting off the answer from the prosecution's side.
If the prosecution does not do this, it is their failure.
bintananth
behind a desk
My cliff's notes understanding of what was going on:
Trump: <<goes on a tangent>>
Prosecution: "Can you please get to the point?"
Defense: "Objection! Let him bloviate."
Judge: "Overruled."
Vyor
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No actually, the judge was trying to force trump to speak
Your bias is showing.
Blasterbot
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incorrect. The prosecutor wasn't objecting. The judge was stepping in before an objection was made. not a common thing at all. Bluntly between that and how the judge reacted when the motion for a mistrial was put forth it really shows how Biased he has been. Reacting like he did to it makes it seem like it actually has teeth to it. This is just gonna be red meat to the Trump base and be taken as further evidence of how the justice system is breaking it's norms just to get the orange man. not good for maintaining the legitimacy of the court. I don't think many big businesses are gonna want to stay in NYC after this. or real estate investors. or banks.
I mean...they've already lost a LOT of the people who's money is in those businesses. It's no surprise that the businesses would follow suit.