Trump Investigations Thread

strunkenwhite

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Weird how whenever another Biden scandal or something breaks a Trump thing immediately happens right after.

Just a crazy coincidence I'm sure.
C'mon man, regardless of whether you think it's legitimate or illegitimate you can hardly deny that "Trump things" are happening constantly right? I mean it feels like you could hardly pick a date for a Biden scandal to happen that would be more than like a fortnight away from some Trump headline or other.
 
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bintananth

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They may be trying to push that what tax collectors assess should be the selling price I guess. a set of government price controls on housing probably would blow up the real estate market pretty quick.
Reflective of about what you could sell it for -which is usually the case - on the theory that if the taxman's number and the market's number are wildly different then something ain't on the up-and-up. That would be a more accurate statement.

There are, of course, locales which use the most recent sale price (or the appraisal after you did something which needed a building permit and/or took out a mortgage on the property) and tack on a set percent increase each year.

Palm Beach County, Florida is not one of those locales.
 

Cherico

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@The Immortal Watch Dog Maybe this will unfuck commercial real estate in NYC. I would love to see landlords fucking wrecked over this precedent. Like holy shit, if we can just get summary judgements against any slime bag that overstates their square footage and over charges for thier property... NYC property values will tank to shit.



honestly the can of worms has been opened and the only way to stop it is to use this precident against all of the commericial real estate people who support the left.
 

Terthna

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C'mon man, regardless of whether you think it's legitimate or illegitimate you can hardly deny that "Trump things" are happening constantly right? I mean it feels like you could hardly pick a date for a Biden scandal to happen that would be more than like a fortnight away from some Trump headline or other.
They've been happening since the moment he assumed office back in 2016; because the establishment and their followers were and are so desperate to damage Trump's reputation, that they will spend an entire news cycle condemning him as the reincarnation of Hitler for getting more ice cream than everyone else at the table.
 

Lord Sovereign

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They've been happening since the moment he assumed office back in 2016; because the establishment and their followers were and are so desperate to damage Trump's reputation, that they will spend an entire news cycle condemning him as the reincarnation of Hitler for getting more ice cream than everyone else at the table.
Sometimes I do think the DC Swamp would have been better off sitting back and letting Trump do his thing (within reason). They can move their more dodgy bits and bobs elsewhere whilst he gives the corridors of power a spring clean, gets some reforms in to keep the plebs happy, and then the Swamp wouldn’t have too many more political upsets for the next few decades to worry about.

But no. Corruption appears to devastate IQ.
 

Cherico

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Sometimes I do think the DC Swamp would have been better off sitting back and letting Trump do his thing (within reason). They can move their more dodgy bits and bobs elsewhere whilst he gives the corridors of power a spring clean, gets some reforms in to keep the plebs happy, and then the Swamp wouldn’t have too many more political upsets for the next few decades to worry about.

But no. Corruption appears to devastate IQ.

This is actually a pretty common phenomenon.

A culture has a long period of peace and prosperity. This promps people to have more kids, as people have more kids the number of positions for social strivers becomes more limited. People thus put more effort into their children to give them a better shot at a better life. With the increase in population people who manage labor make more money. This increases social compition for the fewer good jobs.

At some point the establishment fossilizes, as people who are in positons of power gate keep in oder to insure spots of influence go to themselves, family members and supporters. As time goes on people select for boot licking and agreeableness over competence leading to a decadent court of idiots.

Talent is increasingly thought of as a threat instead of an asset, this is when a political establishment creates their own opasition. Tensions increase until a moment of crisis.

At this moment either the esablishment reforms itself and lets in new talent to fix things. If the establishment refuses reform and kills the opasition....they just end up creating a much more radical opasition. Corruption continues to fester and the establishment loses more and more legitimacy until they are forcibly removed.

This process is often lethal, because peaceful reform was refused and the establishment persicuted and murdered the moderates the most radical of the opposition takes power and purges the old establishment. After this competent leadership takes over to actually deal with the problems of the era.

This often leads to good times which end up creating another crisis period.

The only thing I've seen that pushes this off is some kind of frontier to gift to the ambitious, wars that forces the incompetent out of the way for the sake of national survival, meaningful reform, and technological revolutions.
 

S'task

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The party of Big Business, led by a putative Billionaire from New York aren't the Establishment?

Weird!
The Republicans have never been the Party of Big Business. The idea they were has always been propaganda thrown at them by the media and democrats, but if you actually go look and study the policies and effects of governmental policies on business you will quickly understand that the Democrats have long, LONG been the party of Big Business and the labeling of Republicans as them was just another form of them projecting.

To explain more fully: the main area people point to as why Republicans are for "big business" as Republican positions for lower taxes and lowering regulations, which are seen as them being "for big business" and again "little people." However, when you actually look at governmental regulation and taxation, there's actually a massive gap in which businesses are most impacted by those regulations and taxes.

Yes, big businesses end up paying less taxes and less regulations; however, the reduced governmental red tape actually allows small and medium businesses to more easily grow and end up COMPETING with big businesses. Conversely, when you introduce higher taxes and increased red tape, those small and medium companies often cannot afford to comply with them, leading to them going out of business and their assets sold off to companies that CAN absorb those costs, AKA, the big businesses. This actually creates incentives for big businesses to encourage a more strict regulatory regime and higher taxes up to a point (which, if you pay attention to DC, you'll note Big Businesses often do push for greater regulations and have considerable say in how regulations are written... while medium and small businesses do not... and thus regulations are written in such ways to favor those big businesses at the expense of their smaller competition).

No, if you look at Republican economic policy going back to their foundation in the 1850s, there is a consistent throughline: economic policies that favor the middle class. Sometimes this means trust busting, as Republicans have often done, sometimes this means deregulation, as is much the case now, but Republicans consistently have favored political policies that favor small and medium businesses and the middle class, while opposing policies that tend to favor big business and the monetary elites, since the elites prefer to have Big Business and Big Government working together to ensure their wealth and success, at the expense of everyone else.
 

Morphic Tide

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The Republicans have never been the Party of Big Business.
While most of what you've said is true of rhetoric, in practice there's plenty of cases of Republican tax breaks that are remarkably surgical in advantaging already-large businesses over anyone else.

This is not a surprise because the big businesses have only rarely been partisan, pursuing whatever sources of tax breaks, competition-suppressing regulation, or sweetheart taxpayer-funded contracts they can get.
 

S'task

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While most of what you've said is true of rhetoric, in practice there's plenty of cases of Republican tax breaks that are remarkably surgical in advantaging already-large businesses over anyone else.

This is not a surprise because the big businesses have only rarely been partisan, pursuing whatever sources of tax breaks, competition-suppressing regulation, or sweetheart taxpayer-funded contracts they can get.
<Citation needed>

Both the major tax break passed under Trump and George W Bush primary shifted the tax burden from the middle and lower class to the upper class. Prior to that the massive Reagan reform of the tax code was also completely across the board. So going back 40 years the various tax reform plans pushed by Republicans seem to be quite broad and applicable to all, not somehow narrowly advantaging already large businesses.
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Bush's problems weren't the tax things it was the patriot act and the secret tribunals to wiretap US citizens. Abominations against the constitution, also the fact rhat his father was a CIA man which automatically makes him both a traitor and a closet homosexual.

Oh and being a neocon which was a movement founded by disgusting communists.

But he did actually do some decent things when he wasn't turning America into the WEF's glory hole.
 

49ersfootball

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Bush's problems weren't the tax things it was the patriot act and the secret tribunals to wiretap US citizens. Abominations against the constitution, also the fact rhat his father was a CIA man which automatically makes him both a traitor and a closet homosexual.

Oh and being a neocon which was a movement founded by disgusting communists.

But he did actually do some decent things when he wasn't turning America into the WEF's glory hole.
Ripping off the band-aid aren't we LOL.
 

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