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Why? It is literally ANTIFA they are charging

Can't speak for Posh but I want the average citizen to hate their government, both state and federal, to such a staggering degree that no one who works for either feels comfortable out in public anymore.

I also want the credentialed classes who think they rule us to be humiliated, castigated, and bullied continuously by their betters. So mass jury nullifications to the point that no Judge nor lawyer can ever achieve a satisfying result until they disband state bars would be amusing.
 
Can't speak for Posh but I want the average citizen to hate their government, both state and federal, to such a staggering degree that no one who works for either feels comfortable out in public anymore.

I also want the credentialed classes who think they rule us to be humiliated, castigated, and bullied continuously by their betters. So mass jury nullifications to the point that no Judge nor lawyer can ever achieve a satisfying result until they disband state bars would be amusing.
And now you have anarchy.
Welcome to the world you do not want to live in.
Because someone will have better training and skills to survive in such a world
 
Why? It is literally ANTIFA they are charging
I know. Hence why I can't believe what I actually want to occur. As I said, I know that no jury will fail to convict them. They committed acts of violence with A/V evidence and everything. Open-shut. But I can't square the circle for my dislike of both Antifa AND expansion of police. So, between two groups I hate I think the state losing is the better outcome for my own personal biases.
Can't speak for Posh but I want the average citizen to hate their government, both state and federal, to such a staggering degree that no one who works for either feels comfortable out in public anymore.

I also want the credentialed classes who think they rule us to be humiliated, castigated, and bullied continuously by their betters. So mass jury nullifications to the point that no Judge nor lawyer can ever achieve a satisfying result until they disband state bars would be amusing.
I agree but only to a certain extent. I think all citizens should have an adversarial relationship with the government. However, that needs to be balanced with public service and the understanding that there are crucial services that the government is there to provide and that we should support. I think it should be something akin to garbage collection- it's needed, everything will break without it, so a certain amount of people will always be needed to perform the service. No one, however, likes it.
 
But I can't square the circle for my dislike of both Antifa AND expansion of police. So, between two groups I hate I think the state losing is the better outcome for my own personal biases.
Antifa is the state. The evil intimidation branch of the most corrupt party/intelligence agencies.

So if a different part of the state actually arrests and charges them with crimes, great.
 
Antifa is the state. The evil intimidation branch of the most corrupt party/intelligence agencies.

So if a different part of the state actually arrests and charges them with crimes, great.
Eh. That's fair. Could be that. Could be that this "demonstration" will become a justification for more police training facilities to be built elsewhere. Time will tell.
 
Eh. That's fair. Could be that. Could be that this "demonstration" will become a justification for more police training facilities to be built elsewhere. Time will tell.
See here's where I think you've got things backwards.

Police training is probably by MILES the best way to improve policing.

When all this defund the police stuff started? The proper response was giving the police MORE funding for training. Not cutting their funding.

Well trained police are better at de-escalation rather than defaulting to use of force, they are more aware of your rights and less likely to violate them, and better training weeds out bad apples.

If you dislike the police, you should consider more, better training, as an option. Because as you said: we actually do need them. So why wouldnt we want them to have the best quality training we can provide? It's better for both them and us.
 
If you dislike the police, you should consider more, better training, as an option. Because as you said: we actually do need them. So why wouldnt we want them to have the best quality training we can provide? It's better for both them and us.
With the caveat that too many police forces when given discretion over their own training opt for "warrior mindset" shit. Control is needed.
 
That and the police as a whole need to be demilitarized. Plus it doesn’t matter how well armed they are when some activist judge gives Chad the muderer a slap on the wrist.
C'mon we all know it's not Chad Thunder Steel getting a free pass, Chad doesn't do crime, just lonely ladies🤔
 
See here's where I think you've got things backwards.

Police training is probably by MILES the best way to improve policing.

When all this defund the police stuff started? The proper response was giving the police MORE funding for training. Not cutting their funding.

Well trained police are better at de-escalation rather than defaulting to use of force, they are more aware of your rights and less likely to violate them, and better training weeds out bad apples.

If you dislike the police, you should consider more, better training, as an option. Because as you said: we actually do need them. So why wouldnt we want them to have the best quality training we can provide? It's better for both them and us.
Ah, but the difference between you and I is what we believe the training center is for. You believe it's for better training. I think it's to churn out as many new cops as possible. I believe the latter because they are already massively short staffed and they need quantity over quality. This also will continue with the Machine's goal of creating more unrest, more division, more anger, etc.

As we've seen in other cities, the new cops that are being hired to replace the retiring/quitting cops are... not what I would consider quality.
 
Donald Trump isn't real.

This an acting gig for him.

You can find him shaking hands with Epstein, Clinton, (who he donated money to several times) Trump's Trump.

Anyone who thinks he's somehow above the elites or outside of it.

He has family ties back to the German Communist Movement back then they were the Drumpfs.

He's supposed to be an exaggerated version of a conservative.

That proud boys stunt was planned, the capital riots, planned.

Tell me who was president during the lockdowns?

Who fast tracked the RNA vaccine?

Trump is not a friend of the everyman.
 
Our political system
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Is never what it appears to be.


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