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Trump Investigations Thread

bintananth

behind a desk
Does. Not. Matter.

You want to know what a judgement is supposed to hold? The facts of the case and only that case.

You want to know what it isn't supposed to hold? Accusations thrown at people not involved in that case.

Take a guess what that judgement there holds.
To get the case assigned to a different Judge Trump's lawyers need to convince the Court that she's not going to be impartial.

From where I'm sitting they don't appear to be attempting to do that.
 

bintananth

behind a desk
... Motions take time to file and be heard and the judge has issued a gag order so they can't even say they have requested it.
Motions are matters of record. With the sheer number of people watching this case Trump's lawyers filing one will promptly make the news.

IIRC, the gag order covers discovery. i.e.: Trump and his lawyers can't go talk to the press about the evidence the prosecution hands over.
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Hetman
A completely unbiased judge.


the quote from her that he put out?

very unbiased. certainly going to make fair rulings and has not already come to a conclusion.

Isn't she the daughter of a Jamaican communist who was exiled from Jamaica?

That fact alone should preclude her goofy ass from holding any kind of office in the US.
 

bintananth

behind a desk
nah they accidentally released it early. wait they released the one with all 13 charges they wanted. we don't know which 3 they dropped.
They didn't drop any.

Trump faces 13 counts. 18 others were also charged in the 41 count indictment.

 

edgeworthy

Well-known member
Isn't she the daughter of a Jamaican communist who was exiled from Jamaica?

That fact alone should preclude her goofy ass from holding any kind of office in the US.
Her father is an Orthopedic surgeon.

Her Maternal Grandfather was a founding member of People's National Party, which as the name might suggest is distinctly socialist, who was later expelled from the party, not the country.

Judge Chutkan is also a cousin of England Footballer John Barnes.
 

Bigking321

Well-known member
Ah. Found it.

Not one of the charges but what they are claiming is evidence of illegal action.

"Act 22
On or about the 3rd day of December 2020, DONALD JOHN TRUMP caused to be
tweeted from the Twitter account @RealDonaldTrump, "Georgia hearings now on @OANN. Amazing!" This was an overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy."
 

Rocinante

Russian Bot
Founder
Ah. Found it.

Not one of the charges but what they are claiming is evidence of illegal action.

"Act 22
On or about the 3rd day of December 2020, DONALD JOHN TRUMP caused to be
tweeted from the Twitter account @RealDonaldTrump, "Georgia hearings now on @OANN. Amazing!" This was an overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy."
They're literally claiming that telling people to watch the news is evidence of him furthering a conspiracy?

Literally telling people to watch a government function is evidence of wrongdoing now?
 

Megadeath

Well-known member
Ah. Found it.

Not one of the charges but what they are claiming is evidence of illegal action.

"Act 22
On or about the 3rd day of December 2020, DONALD JOHN TRUMP caused to be
tweeted from the Twitter account @RealDonaldTrump, "Georgia hearings now on @OANN. Amazing!" This was an overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy."
They're literally claiming that telling people to watch the news is evidence of him furthering a conspiracy?

Literally telling people to watch a government function is evidence of wrongdoing now?
That's one of 161 acts laid out, that form a comprehensive narrative. Individual acts are not necessarily themselves illegal, or even evidence of wrongdoing. For an exaggerated example, a case could lay out across several acts that a group had conspired to kill someone, and the choice of if/when was made one person's, with the answer to be conveyed by wearing a specific coloured shirt, and then one act would simply be that on this date at this location, defendant was seen wearing a red shirt. It would be idiotic to snip that out from the rest and make some big song and dance about how wearing a red shirt isn't illegal. In the same way, it's equally idiotic to view this one specific act in isolation and without context.
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Hetman
Ah. Found it.

Not one of the charges but what they are claiming is evidence of illegal action.

"Act 22
On or about the 3rd day of December 2020, DONALD JOHN TRUMP caused to be
tweeted from the Twitter account @RealDonaldTrump, "Georgia hearings now on @OANN. Amazing!" This was an overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy."

Very legitimate, totally not corrupt as fuck!

Part of me hopes he gets convicted federally and state wise just so the backlash against government is so severe none of the public sector escapes it.
 

Blasterbot

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12 of the 161 acts are tweets. I also really like how they are going after his lawyers. it is very important to remove your opposition's legal counsel. certainly not banana republic level bullshit. It is hilarious that they are going after him for the whole alternate slate of electors thing. that is what we did with Hawaii back when they had issues that ran long. god these acts are retarded and filled with TDS.

act 1 discussed his speech with someone and then FALESLY claimed he won the election like an evil bad bigot orange man.

act 2 Guiliani placed a call... AND LEFT A VOICE MAIL! what an evil man. also clearly trump's fault

act 2 the second. yes it should be act 3. but this is what they wrote. Guiliani, Powel, and Ellis all went to the GOP headquarters, and lied like evil bigots.

act 4 An email? gasp. what a fiend. and doing something on behalf of someone else? clearly a conspiracy. no one has ever done something on behalf of someone without a conspiracy.

act 5 Trump met with the michigan senate leader and lied about fraud. no he couldn't simply be wrong. he had to be an evil bad lying liar who lies. disagreeing is tantamount to admitting you are a bigot you racist.

act 6 a text message asking for someone's number so POTUS can speak to the leader of the PA legislature. such corruption very wow

act 7 look these are all boring interactions that are pretty freaking normal. they are just saying that trump and his lawyers are lying liars who lie and therefore are enemies of the state.



here is the whole thing if you care to read more.

we will throw some more random ones up

act 36 an email so Cheeley can set up a call with the speaker of the georgia house. wow. such overt act of conspiracy. very corruption.

act 57 Shafer reserved a room... to meet the alternate electors... fucking hell can't argue with this clearly a conspiracy. send him and 3 generations removed from him to the mines for treason.

act 74 gasp he actually met the electors shock.

act 101 He TWEETED REEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! EVIL ORANGE TWEEEEEEET! THROW HIM IN THE GULAG!

act 114 HE TALKED TO SOMEBODY AND TWEETED ABOUT IT! HE ADMITS HIS GUILT!

act 133 He lied about being in total agreement with PENCE!

jesus christ. these people are fucking crazy.
 

DarthOne

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12 of the 161 acts are tweets. I also really like how they are going after his lawyers. it is very important to remove your opposition's legal counsel. certainly not banana republic level bullshit. It is hilarious that they are going after him for the whole alternate slate of electors thing. that is what we did with Hawaii back when they had issues that ran long. god these acts are retarded and filled with TDS.

act 1 discussed his speech with someone and then FALESLY claimed he won the election like an evil bad bigot orange man.

act 2 Guiliani placed a call... AND LEFT A VOICE MAIL! what an evil man. also clearly trump's fault

act 2 the second. yes it should be act 3. but this is what they wrote. Guiliani, Powel, and Ellis all went to the GOP headquarters, and lied like evil bigots.

act 4 An email? gasp. what a fiend. and doing something on behalf of someone else? clearly a conspiracy. no one has ever done something on behalf of someone without a conspiracy.

act 5 Trump met with the michigan senate leader and lied about fraud. no he couldn't simply be wrong. he had to be an evil bad lying liar who lies. disagreeing is tantamount to admitting you are a bigot you racist.

act 6 a text message asking for someone's number so POTUS can speak to the leader of the PA legislature. such corruption very wow

act 7 look these are all boring interactions that are pretty freaking normal. they are just saying that trump and his lawyers are lying liars who lie and therefore are enemies of the state.



here is the whole thing if you care to read more.

we will throw some more random ones up

act 36 an email so Cheeley can set up a call with the speaker of the georgia house. wow. such overt act of conspiracy. very corruption.

act 57 Shafer reserved a room... to meet the alternate electors... fucking hell can't argue with this clearly a conspiracy. send him and 3 generations removed from him to the mines for treason.

act 74 gasp he actually met the electors shock.

act 101 He TWEETED REEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! EVIL ORANGE TWEEEEEEET! THROW HIM IN THE GULAG!

act 114 HE TALKED TO SOMEBODY AND TWEETED ABOUT IT! HE ADMITS HIS GUILT!

act 133 He lied about being in total agreement with PENCE!

jesus christ. these people are fucking crazy.

Or they know that Joe and Jane average aren’t going to look into this beyond ‘wow the media said Trump is getting hit with a Big Number of things! He must be very crooked!’. Especially if Joe and Jane average are liberals.
 

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