United States Trump 2nd Term - Planning and Beyond

[LordSunhawk]

Which they began to inhabit 150 years ago or less.

Bullshit. There was a continuous presence of the Jewish people in the Holy Land, indeed in the 19th century there were more Jews in Hebron alone than Moslems in the entire Holy Land.

And yes, I am calling you out, @RenegadeInterrupt and @King Arts and @Buba . You have all repeatedly posted anti-Semitic content, you all have repeatedly made statements calling for the destruction of Israel then whined about being accused of what you already said. And yes, I am speaking as the site owner, I've seen all the receipts, I have access to your entire post history including deleted posts.

You want to find out? Well, you are in the process of fucking around. I've warned people that I've grown increasingly disgusted with a number of you, and you are very close to causing me to abandon my traditional hands-off and laid back laissez-faire attitude towards the membership. Don't. Push. Me.

 

[King Arts]

Love how many of you are perfectly fine with genociding jews if they live in their ancestral land.

Bluntly, be very grateful that I'm a fairly strong advocate that the best response to idiotic speech is more speech, and that none of you are stupid enough, so far, to explicitly start advocating genocide rather than merely defending those who do.

What the fuck are you talking about.

No both have made It clear in prior posts Isreal has a huge part to play in why things are happening and that if Isreal left them alone or didn't exist things would be peaceful

No I never said something as stupid as if Israel did not exist there would be peace in the Middle East. Don’t put words in my mouth.

 

[Rorschach]

onshoring probably.

Yeah and how the fuck are we going to export shit when all the canals are controlled by terrorists or the chinese?

Onshoring is step one, but when we get our manufacturing base up we're going to want to sell the shit we make.

Edit: I don't like getting involved in foreign wars, but surrendering all of our major trade routes to foreign powers and terrorists is fucking moronic.

No not just moronic but fucking retarded.

 

[King Arts]

Bullshit. There was a continuous presence of the Jewish people in the Holy Land, indeed in the 19th century there were more Jews in Hebron alone than Moslems in the entire Holy Land.

And yes, I am calling you out, @RenegadeInterrupt and @King Arts and @Buba . You have all repeatedly posted anti-Semitic content, you all have repeatedly made statements calling for the destruction of Israel then whined about being accused of what you already said. And yes, I am speaking as the site owner, I've seen all the receipts, I have access to your entire post history including deleted posts.

You want to find out? Well, you are in the process of fucking around. I've warned people that I've grown increasingly disgusted with a number of you, and you are very close to causing me to abandon my traditional hands-off and laid back laissez-faire attitude towards the membership. Don't. Push. Me.

Ok this is fucking bullshit and I’m calling you out.

You can say anything is antisemitism, it’s the biggest boy who cried wolf ever.

Show me where I called for the destruction of Israel? Here is the thing I am neutral in Palestine vs Israel. I don’t support one nation over the other. I don’t care if Palestine conquers Israel OR if Israel conquers all Palestine. I’ve sometimes criticized Israel. But nowhere have I said Hamas is right or that Israel should just give up and surrender. I affirm both groups have the right to not give up and press their claims that’s far different from what you are saying.

I also don’t remember deleting any post in a talk about Israel ve Palestine.

 

[mrttao]

Yeah and how the fuck are we going to export shit when all the canals are controlled by terrorists or the chinese?

Onshoring is step one, but when we get our manufacturing base up we're going to want to sell the shit we make.

Edit: I don't like getting involved in foreign wars, but surrendering all of our major trade routes to foreign powers and terrorists is fucking moronic.

No not just moronic but fucking retarded.

I don't think he was advocating for surrender.
He was clearly just saying that we wouldn't be so reliant on the suez canal if we hadn't offshored all our industry.

Pretty sure he supports trump in bombing the houtis and killing them for attacking america's shipping.

 

[Rorschach]

I don't think he was advocating for surrender.
He was clearly just saying that we wouldn't be so reliant on the suez canal if we hadn't offshored all our industry.

Pretty sure he supports trump in bombing the houtis and killing them for attacking america's shipping.

I disagree with that idea, even if we were making all of our own stuff we'd still be reliant on the canal to export our shit to other nations.

I don't really give a fuck about Israel or Ukraine, but the trade routes are always going to be important regardless of whether we're importing or exporting. Trade routes go both ways even if we're currently using them to import, and the nations that control the trade routes also control the world.

I don't want China and Iran controlling the fucking world. I'm also fully in favour of taking part in the India/Pakistan conflict, because it's just too big to stay out of.

 

[mrttao]

I disagree with that idea, even if we were making all of our own stuff we'd still be reliant on the canal to export our shit to other nations.

I don't really give a fuck about Israel or Ukraine, but the trade routes are always going to be important regardless of whether we're importing or exporting. Trade routes go both ways even if we're currently using them to import, and the nations that control the trade routes also control the world.

I don't want China and Iran controlling the fucking world. I'm also fully in favour of taking part in the India/Pakistan conflict, because it's just too big to stay out of.

To be fair, other countries should not be relying on US for imports either. this globalization is hurting everyone.

 

[RenegadeInterrupt]

Ok this is fucking bullshit and I’m calling you out.

You can say anything is antisemitism, it’s the biggest boy who cried wolf ever.

Show me where I called for the destruction of Israel? Here is the thing I am neutral in Palestine vs Israel. I don’t support one nation over the other. I don’t care if Palestine conquers Israel OR if Israel conquers all Palestine. I’ve sometimes criticized Israel. But nowhere have I said Hamas is right or that Israel should just give up and surrender. I affirm both groups have the right to not give up and press their claims that’s far different from what you are saying.

I also don’t remember deleting any post in a talk about Israel ve Palestine.

Nor have I and I share ^this position. I've also never praised Hamas. What a fucking retard that sad little man is. Gaslighting attempt: failed. Lmaooooo

 

[ShadowArxxy]

As opposed to what? Wormholes? What the fuck are you even talking about?

Maintaining control of those canals is fucking essential, I don't believe in funding Israel but the Houthis can go fuck themselves, and if they insist on on disrupting global trade routes we should wipe Yemen off the fucking map.

Well, the Western powers-that-be notably failed to wipe Egypt off the map when it blockaded the Suez Canal for eight years just to spite Israel, even though American, British, and French merchant vessels and their crews were literally held hostage for that entire period.

 

[ShadowArxxy]

It would have ended poorly for them.

The funny thing about Britain and the Suez Canal was that the British refused to invest in the canal project and smugly derided it as a fool's errand that would never be economically successful. They then suffered a massive economic crisis (the so-called Panic of 1873) when the Canal opened, frantically bought up all of Egypt's shares when Isma'il Pasha sold them to cover debts, and ultimately invaded Egypt on comically slim pretexts to seize control of the Canal.

 

[Bacle]

Bullshit. There was a continuous presence of the Jewish people in the Holy Land, indeed in the 19th century there were more Jews in Hebron alone than Moslems in the entire Holy Land.

And yes, I am calling you out, @RenegadeInterrupt and @King Arts and @Buba . You have all repeatedly posted anti-Semitic content, you all have repeatedly made statements calling for the destruction of Israel then whined about being accused of what you already said. And yes, I am speaking as the site owner, I've seen all the receipts, I have access to your entire post history including deleted posts.

You want to find out? Well, you are in the process of fucking around. I've warned people that I've grown increasingly disgusted with a number of you, and you are very close to causing me to abandon my traditional hands-off and laid back laissez-faire attitude towards the membership. Don't. Push. Me.

Just add 'Advocating for the destruction of Israel' to the same rule banning Nazi and commie support; easy way to fold it into existing rules.

 

[King Arts]

Just add 'Advocating for the destruction of Israel' to the same rule banning Nazi and commie support; easy way to fold it into existing rules.

And here we have the type that likes sucking Jewish dick.

I don't advocate for hate of Israel and support of Palestinian Muslims over them. I am neutral in between the fights of Jews and Muslims.

I advocate all America first people should hate disloyal traitors who simp for a foreign government and want to grant it special protections. People like that literally should be stripped of their citizenship and kicked out of the country even if they are birthright citizens.

 

[Bacle]

Nice, making it easier to leave, than stay, and adding even more punishments for those who stay.

 

[ShadowArxxy]

Show me where I called for the destruction of Israel? Here is the thing I am neutral in Palestine vs Israel. I don’t support one nation over the other. I don’t care if Palestine conquers Israel OR if Israel conquers all Palestine. I’ve sometimes criticized Israel.

When you loudly insist that you're "neutral" between a peaceful, democratic allied nation fighting for survival and the terrorist maniacs who are almost literally *incapable of saying the word peace* without immediately clarifying that the only peace they will accept is driving Israel into the sea (i.e. flat-out genocide)...

... that's not even reading between the lines.

But nowhere have I said Hamas is right or that Israel should just give up and surrender. I affirm both groups have the right to not give up and press their claims that's far different from what you are saying.

You're literally asserting moral equivalency between terrorist mass murderers and their innocent victims.

 

[King Arts]

When you loudly insist that you're "neutral" between a peaceful, democratic allied nation fighting for survival and the terrorist maniacs who are almost literally *incapable of saying the word peace* without immediately clarifying that the only peace they will accept is driving Israel into the sea (i.e. flat-out genocide)...

... that's not even reading between the lines.



You're literally asserting moral equivalency between terrorist mass murderers and their innocent victims.

No I don't say there is equivallence between Israel and Hamas.

I DO think there is moral equivalence between Israel and the Palestinian Authority.

Yes, I am neutral between them. Israel is not a pure innocent angel no matter how much neocons, and evangelicals simp for it.

 

[LordSunhawk]

You mean the Palestinian Authority which is Fatah, another terrorist group, that quite literally pays people to engage in terror attacks on Israel? That Palestinian Authority? The same one which has rejected every single peace proposal put before it?

You keep on digging yourself deeper with anybody who knows anything.

 

[King Arts]

You mean the Palestinian Authority which is Fatah, another terrorist group, that quite literally pays people to engage in terror attacks on Israel? That Palestinian Authority? The same one which has rejected every single peace proposal put before it?

You keep on digging yourself deeper with anybody who knows anything.

Well then Israel's armed forces are also a terrorist group since they were formed from the Irgun. Who massacred Palestinian women and children, and bombed British government administrative headquarters.

Or are you going to give a free pass for when Jews do terrorism?

Irgun - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[ShadowArxxy]

No I don't say there is equivallence between Israel and Hamas.

I DO think there is moral equivalence between Israel and the Palestinian Authority.

Yes, I am neutral between them. Israel is not a pure innocent angel no matter how much neocons, and evangelicals simp for it.

And there's the downright malicious double standard right there, folks: the Palestinian Authority being one largely imaginary step away from terrorist groups makes it "morally equivalent" to Israel being anything short of sinless perfection.

 

[King Arts]

And there's the downright malicious double standard right there, folks: the Palestinian Authority being one largely imaginary step away from terrorist groups makes it "morally equivalent" to Israel being anything short of sinless perfection.

Oh yes because Israel has NEVER done terrorist attacks. It's leaders and founders did not engage in terrorism when they were weak, and only partly moved away once they became a successful state.

Also lol at the requirement of "sinless perfection" no it's not requiring some high standard, Israel's conduct IS worse than other 1st world states. You can argue that the Jews need to be more brutal, or even wipe out the Palestinians to get peace, that is a valid argument you could put up. HOWEVER Only the delusional or the liars will say that Israel is the "world's most moral army" or that they have stricter or kinder ROE than America or other western nations.

 

[Cherico]

Well then Israel's armed forces are also a terrorist group since they were formed from the Irgun. Who massacred Palestinian women and children, and bombed British government administrative headquarters.

Or are you going to give a free pass for when Jews do terrorism?

Irgun - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The british promised the jewish people a home land after WW1, they promised the Arabs a homeland after WW1. The arabs got their home land (Saudi arabia other countries) And then proceded to break their promise to the jews during a mass genocide of their people...

And then even after that genocide the british STILL didn't want to keep their promise. Also the Palastinians allied with Hitler in fact the leader of the Arab Palastinians was pretty buddy buddy with him. In light of the fact that the British were still jerking the jews around after the fucking holocaust and the Palastinians had been allied with hitler?

Yeah there was going to be some bad shit coming down the pipe, because after you go through something like that your going to be fully out of fucks, and even then after all of this the Isralies were positively restrained compared to the Arabs you know who evicted all of their jews to the middle east.

Honestly Israels problem is that they have been too kind and merciful. They should have just done a total expulsion and call it population exchanges. Yes people would have been pissy at the time but it would be over. Honestly they should just rip off the bandaid and do the expulsion now.

The Palastinians are arabs they are surrounded by arab homelands they should live with their own people under their own laws.