The Christian claim is not even the longest claim, so therefore jt should go to the ones who manages to not only get it BACK, had it the longest historically, and are able to defend it.
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King Arts
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Guess what that’s not the Jews. Regardless of what Protestants think rabbinical Judaism is YOUNGER than Christianity. Christianity claims that they are the continuation of the Hebrew faith.
Except none of modern Christians truly follow the traditions of the Hebrew faoths in which became Christianity due to tje fact that majority if them over time were gentiles so they were not able to follow Hebrew traditions
I think it's appallingly hilarious that the anti-Israel crowd has seamlessly pivoted from, "The IDF is evil because they don't rape Palestinians, it proves they seem them as subhuman!" to, "The IDF is evil because they do rape Palestinians, and it's GAY MAN RAPE for double-extra-evulz!"
Without, of course, the slightest shred of credible proof.
That's never been how ownership of land has been determined Zach. The only thing that's even remotely true in your post is the fact that their ownership of it is determined by whether or not they're able to defend it.
Also I don't understand how you keep missing the point, whether it's because you're retarded or just pretending to be.
I don't give a singular fuck about how valid the competing claims are, I am a Christian and so I'm going to back the Christian claim!
I am a Christian and so it's distasteful to me that another faith has control over our Holy Places!
I've repeated this multiple times, and you seem to be deliberately misconstruing me in response.
King Arts
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Yes there are subdivisions within nations just like England has Wales, Scotland, Northern ireland,etc.
The most pure Egyptians are the Copts. They held onto the traditions of Ancient Egypt the most.
Ok, then those tribes are nations.
Well they Palestinians aren't Jordanian, Egyptian, or Syrian then regardless of which way you spin it.
No I did not run away, and it's not a myth.
U.S. decries reported sexual abuse of Palestinian prisoners after graphic video aired on Israeli TV
“We have seen the video, and reports of sexual abuse of detainees are horrific,” State Department spokesperson Matthew Miller said.
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Israeli lawmaker defends alleged rape of Hamas prisoner as far-right protesters rage over IDF troops' detention
Far-right Israelis try to storm military base and lawmaker defends rape of Hamas suspects as 9 IDF reservists face questioning over alleged prisoner abuse.
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The IDF is even MORE pro rape than the Russians. At least the Russians deny their rape crimes the Israelis are angry THAT THEIR OWN LAW ENFORCEMENT NOT INTERNATIONAL OR A FOREIGN GROUP THEIR OWN! Yes they riot over their own authorities punishing gay rapists.
Let me guess you are jealous of the Palestinian prisoner?
Listen I know many pro Israel supporters can't help sucking Jewish cock, but if you really want a BDSM relationship there are clubs where you can find a nice Jewish boy to dominate you.
Moving the goalposts I see. We are in no threat from military invasion and being forced into sharia.
The threat is your favorite leftists importing these people in. At that point I'm sorry we can't stop suicide.
You are the one who cares about labels.
Western interests won't be affected either way. We can deal with the mid east being semi stable, or chaotic.
No they are not an ally. Allies GIVE things back we don't get anything from Israel.
Also your "lol why don't you go crusade!" is childish, also there are no Christian states in the world. The west is secular through and through so simping for it is pointless. I support it as far as it will help Christians.
Then why do Jews get primacy? After all Christians claim to be the continuation of the faith of Abraham. Heck even Muslims claim to be the same religion that Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and the other prophets worshipped. The Muslim claim is silly. But it makes more sense than Protestant beliefs.
I've posted this video before I'll do it again.
And you are wrong Eastern Orthodox Christians do truly follow the traditions that came from the Ancient Isralites. There are some things that have been superseded, and no longer apply but the way of prayer, and forms are the same.
Or what do you think the traditions of the Hebrews was only to not eat pork?
SoliFortissimi
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The Jews aren't really a religion anymore, they're a nation, and I feel they have more than earned Jerusalem. Christianity should just go die with some dignity and stop trying to embarrass itself with these pointless power grabs.
King Arts
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So bloodline is what is going to determine who has a claim to the holy land?
Ok what if the modern Palestinians were more closely related to the Ancient Israelites of 2000 years ago(but just abandoned Judaism and converted to Christianity first then Islam) than modern day Jews(who were Europeans whose ancestors converted to Judaism)
And why are you jumping in this convo. Christianity won't die and we won't simp for your globohomo west.
My point exactly... and the other Egyptians treat them like crap. If being treated like crap by Egyptians doesn't make them not Egyptians, how does Palestinians being treated like crap by other Arabs mean they aren't just more Arabs?
Again, despite not applying humanitarian bleeding heart standards to Palestinians (which are not their standards in general) the other Arabs started, fought and lost several wars against Israel on the side of and for the sake of the Palestinian Arabs, and that says something about how much they care about the matter. Would they do it for some other random people they have little to do with?
No, tribes are not nations, that's why they have so many failed states in the tribal areas.
Yet leaders of Jordan, Syria and Palestine said they are and i quoted them, i think they can speak on behalf of their and neighboring nations more convincingly than some proudly ignorant bullshitter.
So you are spinning already spun bullshit by bleeding hearts.No I did not run away, and it's not a myth.
U.S. decries reported sexual abuse of Palestinian prisoners after graphic video aired on Israeli TV
“We have seen the video, and reports of sexual abuse of detainees are horrific,” State Department spokesperson Matthew Miller said.Israeli lawmaker defends alleged rape of Hamas prisoner as far-right protesters rage over IDF troops' detention
Far-right Israelis try to storm military base and lawmaker defends rape of Hamas suspects as 9 IDF reservists face questioning over alleged prisoner abuse.
The IDF is even MORE pro rape than the Russians. At least the Russians deny their rape crimes the Israelis are angry THAT THEIR OWN LAW ENFORCEMENT NOT INTERNATIONAL OR A FOREIGN GROUP THEIR OWN! Yes they riot over their own authorities punishing gay rapists.
This?
NBC News has not confirmed details of the reported abuse or if the video circulating was of that incident,
Yeah, great information....
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Go fuck yourself with a rusty pipe for this cheeky commentary, speak for yourself, there might be a reason why are you dragging this discussion to obsessing about Jews violating the sanctity of Arab asses.
>no threat
>no threat from military invasion
>implying being forced into sharia requires military invasion
Not the same fucking thing, so speak for yourself about what you are doing.
Yes, the leftists and your favorite fellow theocrats, be it by intent or happenstance, collaborate, because they agree to the point where they want to overthrow the existing order, they just disagree about what should come after that. Like they historically did in Iran btw, until one won and imprisoned/killed the other.
Am i?
Yes they will be affected, if you don't understand it, that speaks only of your analytical abilities.
As you yourself admit it "we would have to deal with it", so not only you are trying to propagandize someone who knows this shit, you are doing to in a way betraying your own lack of certainty in this.
Well it's more plausible if they did (and they do) someone with your pathetic level of knowledge about international events, politics and conflicts as demonstrated here many times would not know of it anyway.
Well there is Vatican...
But my point exactly, if only a few crazies want there to be a real state sized one, there won't be one, which is why there isn't one. If at least tens of millions of Christians (doesn't even need to be western ones) in the world wanted there to be one, mere few percent of world's Christians, they probably would have the pull to arrange at least one.
Which is why most people don't give a shit about your fringe wishlist for who should do what and rule what.
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SoliFortissimi
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No, victory will. Israel has defeated its opponents and therefore earned the city.
King Arts
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So might makes right? That is only respectable IF you are consistent. If the Palestinians manage to win and you bitch and whine later that makes you contemptable you know that right?
If Palestine wins we have bigger issues on our hands. Christian pilgrims will be a lot worse off that's for sure
King Arts
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Stop changing the subject. Soli does not care about that he wants Christianity dead.
I was asking for HIS reason to support one side over the other.
India and Pakistan have had on-and-off hostility to each other for pretty much their entire existence, and so far sanity has always prevailed in neither side ever escalating to full scale conflict, much less nuclear. I am definitely happy to hear that a cease-fire has been arranged, but given how longstanding the issues are, I'm not sure it's realistic to hope for any lasting peace as opposed to, "Go to your corners. AGAIN."
King Arts
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Hey even another day without nuclear war is a victory. Give Trump the props he deserves this victory.
King Arts
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It takes a while for info to filter down. Andrew Jackson slaughtered a British army a few months after the war of 1812 ended.
Back then it took awhile for it to get to people.
Right now it doesn't, and it seems to he a terror attack