Transgender Athletes in Sports

LifeisTiresome said:
And? Carl, men get no help. All Men get is man up, deal with it or accusations of being incel or manbaby.

If you are for equality, why do you want to be there to protect women? Women said that they don't need no man. Let them face the same things men do. Thats equality no?
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Not every single woman is on the side of these bitches

Just as not every single man is on the side of those douchebag male feminists and other crazy types throwing the sane ones into the grinder

There are people stuck living with the crazies regardless of their sex, sexual orientation, race or place of living, who hate the crazies, want away from said crazies but are subject to their majority power or the power of a loud few who get taken seriously by a bunch of idiot rich dudes
 
CarlManvers2019 said:
Not every single woman is on the side of these bitches

Just as not every single man is on the side of those douchebag male feminists and other crazy types throwing the sane ones into the grinder

There are people stuck living with the crazies, who hate the crazies, want away from said crazies but are subject to their majority power or the power of a loud few who get taken seriously by a bunch of idiot rich dudes
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None of this is relevant. Equality claims that men and women are the same and claims that women can deal with anything just like men can and infact even better then men apparently (Shits on equality already but we all have to keep pretending despite this). So why can't they deal with this themselves? Unless, women are not infact equal with men?

If you wish to SIMP for women? Be my guest, you will not get much from them despite the effort.
 
Vaermina said:
The decisions in concerns to trans athletes are being made based on data.

The problem is, there isn't much data on this subject, and pretty much the only person actually studying it, did so using questionable methods that involved trans athletes self reporting, with a very tiny sample base.
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Bull. There's plenty of data on how testosterone et all affects physical and athletic performance. The Trans lobby just won't consider it valid because it doesn't support their narrative.
 
Zachowon said:
I mean a user on a sister site once told me Transgender people often are weaker then men so they HAVE to participate in female sports to stand chance!
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They often are, due to suppressed testosterone levels.

That doesn't change what (most of) a lifetime with Testosterone in their system has already done. Men don't just have more muscle, Testosterone also makes it more efficient muscle.
 
LordsFire said:
They often are, due to suppressed testosterone levels.

That doesn't change what (most of) a lifetime with Testosterone in their system has already done. Men don't just have more muscle, Testosterone also makes it more efficient muscle.
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Oh I know. Thier argument was that trans women that want to compete are the ones that have been on it so long they no longer have Testoerone. I then showed examples of that jot being true in most cases
 
LordsFire said:
Bull. There's plenty of data on how testosterone et all affects physical and athletic performance. The Trans lobby just won't consider it valid because it doesn't support their narrative.
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It is almost as if the facts don't care about their feelings and their ideology is based on basic denial of reality.
 
GoldRanger said:
Just make an all trans league for crying out loud.
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I don't think there's enough Trans athletes to support a league. In the US it's around 0.58% of the population. I wasn't able to nail down the percentage of professional athletes in the population exactly but my offhand estimate based on percentage of college athletes > percentage that go pro yielded about .00005% of the total US population.

So assuming that the percentage of athletes is consistent that yields a total of maybe 8700 trans professional athletes in the US. That might sound like enough for a league but this will be split across dozens of sports from basketball to football to baseball to soccer to ice skating. Then consider that, say, a football team isn't just 11 guys, there's four or five times that total players to allow for swapping and injuries. You're going to wind up with only enough players for a couple of teams in each sport if you try to make trans-only leagues.
 
Bear Ribs said:
I don't think there's enough Trans athletes to support a league. In the US it's around 0.58% of the population. I wasn't able to nail down the percentage of professional athletes in the population exactly but my offhand estimate based on percentage of college athletes > percentage that go pro yielded about .00005% of the total US population.

So assuming that the percentage of athletes is consistent that yields a total of maybe 8700 trans professional athletes in the US. That might sound like enough for a league but this will be split across dozens of sports from basketball to football to baseball to soccer to ice skating. Then consider that, say, a football team isn't just 11 guys, there's four or five times that total players to allow for swapping and injuries. You're going to wind up with only enough players for a couple of teams in each sport if you try to make trans-only leagues.
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Then maybe an "everyone league" might be far in this situation. But then that runs into issues of if people would even want to be in an everyone league and if it would even work.
 
Everyone league would just mean that men would dominate women and trans, which is unacceptable. So I guess the women will just have to take one for the society, by allowing trans-women to compete in their leagues, until the Handicapper General makes everyone equal.
 
PsihoKekec said:
Everyone league would just mean that men would dominate women and trans, which is unacceptable. So I guess the women will just have to take one for the society, by allowing trans-women to compete in their leagues, until the Handicapper General makes everyone equal.
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Yeah, this'd end poorly.

Perfect example? Rugby. You're going to need to call in morticians if a female athlete or a trans-male athlete gets steamrolled by a professional male rugby player. I mean, shit, those guys proverbially hit like a train.
 
Jormungandr said:
Yeah, this'd end poorly.

Perfect example? Rugby. You're going to need to call in morticians if a female athlete or a trans-male athlete gets steamrolled by a professional male rugby player. I mean, shit, those guys proverbially hit like a train.
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I'm tall enough and heavy enough to play heavy contact sports, and I get a shiver down my spine just thinking about taking those kinds of hits.

With extremely few exceptions, it'd functionally be abuse to put women through the same.
 
LordsFire said:
I'm tall enough and heavy enough to play heavy contact sports, and I get a shiver down my spine just thinking about taking those kinds of hits.

With extremely few exceptions, it'd functionally be abuse to put women through the same.
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You know, I once tried arguing with a Feminism-Professor in college about similar stuff like this

About how men and women in the same sport can result in physical damage and women having to deal with being outcompeted by men

All she did as a counterargument was point to a tall female german exchange student and ask me who is more likely to win in a fight, me or her?

I’m relatively of average height by my people’s standards and not physically fit even then

She used that to shut me up

Just so you know, this same professor thinks America is just as bad as Saudi Arabia in terms of womens rights
 
CarlManvers2019 said:
You know, I once tried arguing with a Feminism-Professor in college about similar stuff like this

About how men and women in the same sport can result in physical damage and women having to deal with being outcompeted by men

All she did as a counterargument was point to a tall female german exchange student and ask me who is more likely to win in a fight, me or her?

I’m relatively of average height by my people’s standards and not physically fit even then

She used that to shut me up

Just so you know, this same professor thinks America is just as bad as Saudi Arabia in terms of womens rights
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By their own words and doctrine, they push for women to suffer in sports and yet you want to stop them despite all the claims of equality?
 
CarlManvers2019 said:
You know, I once tried arguing with a Feminism-Professor in college about similar stuff like this

About how men and women in the same sport can result in physical damage and women having to deal with being outcompeted by men

All she did as a counterargument was point to a tall female german exchange student and ask me who is more likely to win in a fight, me or her?

I’m relatively of average height by my people’s standards and not physically fit even then

She used that to shut me up

Just so you know, this same professor thinks America is just as bad as Saudi Arabia in terms of womens rights
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I'd love to see her try that with someone like me.
 
LordsFire said:
I'd love to see her try that with someone like me.
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You get arrested and media crows how much of a martyr she is and we get another stream of articles about the evils of men.

LordsFire said:
I'm tall enough and heavy enough to play heavy contact sports, and I get a shiver down my spine just thinking about taking those kinds of hits.

With extremely few exceptions, it'd functionally be abuse to put women through the same.
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You sound like a chad LordsofFire.
 
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