Transgender Athletes in Sports

[Captain X]

The more hilarious aspect of this is how the regressive left is basically engaging in a witch hunt from among their own members, labeling them as TERFs and extremists if they find any kind of a problem with something like this. Another great example is mtf trans women in a prison with biological women ending up raping them. So the regressive left has gotten so regressive, that what has become mainstream feminism is throwing real women under the bus in order to hold up trans women.

 

[ShieldWife]

Well, if it helps, I think this is gonna be a phase

A horrible and really ridiculous phase, but a phase

Eventually women will reclaim their space and even outright say that they do NOT want to compete with men

Maybe it is going to be a short lived phase. Though in the scheme of things, a handful of transsexuals out-competing biological women in competitive sports is a very minor problem in society.

Contrast that with neighborhoods all over Europe where rape has grown to epidemic proportions because of Muslim immigration and where the authorities, the media, and the feminist movement all aid and abet the rapists.

When are feminists going to stop helping Muslims commit rape and when will they actively start trying to oppose it? There is no indication that it will ever happen. If feminists don’t care about thousands of teenaged girls turned into sex slaves across the UK, why would they care about a biological woman missing out on a weight lifting title?

 

[Edgeplay_cgo]

When are feminists going to stop helping Muslims commit rape and when will they actively start trying to oppose it? There is no indication that it will ever happen. If feminists don’t care about thousands of teenaged girls turned into sex slaves across the UK, why would they care about a biological woman missing out on a weight lifting title?

They won't. They're not feminists, regardless of what they call themselves. They don't care about women, although many of them actively hate men. They are Lefturds, Democrat Fascists FTMP. A major part of their agenda is the destruction of Western Civilization.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

They won't. They're not feminists, regardless of what they call themselves. They don't care about women, although many of them actively hate men. They are Lefturds, Democrat Fascists FTMP. A major part of their agenda is the destruction of Western Civilization.

They really want to fight “The Man” even when “The Man” isn’t even in their way

 

[Husky_Khan]

PragerU put up a video on the subject, just in time for Trans Awareness week.

Selina Soule, the sprinter who was robbed of her championships, scouting opportunities and potential scholarships by two biological boys who won 15 state championships between them, is the video presenter. She's currently filing a lawsuit (with the help of the Alliance Defending Freedom) against State authorities due to this issue.

 

[Hlaalu Agent]

I feel sorry for that girl. She worked so hard, sacrificed so much, only to have it snatched away from her. All, because some people deny reality, just because they want to falsely be seen as virtuous. And it is bullshit that people like her get bullied when they point out the truth and air their grievances.

Hope, they can win their case.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

I feel sorry for that girl. She worked so hard, sacrificed so much, only to have it snatched away from her. All, because some people deny reality, just because they want to falsely be seen as virtuous. And it is bullshit that people like her get bullied when they point out the truth and air their grievances.

Hope, they can win their case.

One thing that has to be confronted is whether or not girls want to participate on the exact same levels and playing fields as boys

If they want to just be the best of their sex, rather than the best of the best

Whether or not they actually want to prove themselves in the same categories or not

No offense, but those ladies going against Trans Athletes, more or less admit defeat when it comes to gender equality

 

[Hlaalu Agent]

One thing that has to be confronted is whether or not girls want to participate on the exact same levels and playing fields as boys

If they want to just be the best of their sex, rather than the best of the best

Whether or not they actually want to prove themselves in the same categories or not

No offense, but those ladies going against Trans Athletes, more or less admit defeat when it comes to gender equality

Some do, many don't. It depends.

Again, it does depend, and there should be space for such things if feasible.

Gender equality in the physical realm, not others. And men and women can have different capacity, many people seem to scoff at the concept of equal-but-different. But the thing is equal does not mean the same 5=5, can also be 4+1=3+2 or 3+2=2.5 x 2 and so on. And there are many other forms of equality, such as treating people equally in holding them to same standard and then giving them differing treatment based on what they deserve from this standard (and it needs to be a fair standard). I am of course referring to proportional equality. So tl;dr yes and no.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Some do, many don't. It depends.

Again, it does depend, and there should be space for such things if feasible.

Gender equality in the physical realm, not others. And men and women can have different capacity, many people seem to scoff at the concept of equal-but-different. But the thing is equal does not mean the same 5=5, can also be 4+1=3+2 or 3+2=2.5 x 2 and so on. And there are many other forms of equality, such as treating people equally in holding them to same standard and then giving them differing treatment based on what they deserve from this standard (and it needs to be a fair standard). I am of course referring to proportional equality. So tl;dr yes and no.

I think there’s also the question as to why they dedicate themselves to things like sports

Bet for a good number, it’s less about being on the same playing field or proving a point and more about actually just liking the sport, the art, the skill, the music and being able to engage and make their own, to make a living and so on

That’s more “selfish” in a positive sense

Than the “selfless” obsessing over others’ opinion or acknowledgement of being a “Female X” and such

 

[LordsFire]

This reminds me a bit of the video where the woman who won the strongest woman in the world competition went around and challenged random guys to arm wrestle.

Some of those random guys, none of whom appeared to be pro athletes or even hobbyist bodybuilders, beat her. They were simply on the larger side, and decently fit. That's literally all that it took.

I'm 6'2" and weigh over 240 pounds. If I were to insist on competing in women's wrestling, it would probably take me six months of intensive training to be able to use my overwhelming physical advantages to completely wreck most women, whether they'd spent their entire lives pursuing the sport or not.

That's not fair to them. I didn't do anything special to have genes for being big. I did make a point of eating lots of protein and calcium growing up, but that's because I like meat and cheese, not because I was trying for a fitness diet.

And if any guy who were serious about strength and fitness, and/or pro wrestlers got into a match against me, I'd probably get completely wrecked. Not even stand a chance. And I'd deserve to get wrecked for competing in a field I've put no real effort into being good in.

Hard reality matters.

 

[LifeisTiresome]

One thing that has to be confronted is whether or not girls want to participate on the exact same levels and playing fields as boys

If they want to just be the best of their sex, rather than the best of the best

Whether or not they actually want to prove themselves in the same categories or not

No offense, but those ladies going against Trans Athletes, more or less admit defeat when it comes to gender equality

I say good. Best thing for us is for women to lose and suffer from their own decisions. They may finally decide to do something about social issues.

Some do, many don't. It depends.

Again, it does depend, and there should be space for such things if feasible.

Gender equality in the physical realm, not others. And men and women can have different capacity, many people seem to scoff at the concept of equal-but-different. But the thing is equal does not mean the same 5=5, can also be 4+1=3+2 or 3+2=2.5 x 2 and so on. And there are many other forms of equality, such as treating people equally in holding them to same standard and then giving them differing treatment based on what they deserve from this standard (and it needs to be a fair standard). I am of course referring to proportional equality. So tl;dr yes and no.

Aka Equality is nonsense.

Infact, a lot of left leaning people nowadays when they speak of equality, they actually speak of equity* and approve of the Great Reset. if there are people who are poor, nobody should be rich.

* = and this in of itself is nonsense as many advocate for greater benefit for their chosen group while everyone else needs to bow.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

I say good. Best thing for us is for women to lose and suffer from their own decisions. They may finally decide to do something about social issues.

I don’t want the majority of women punished for the actions of these douchebag feminists

Hell, the fact there are women even in gaming who dislike SJWs very much and are purposely forgotten due to how much it goes against the narrative for said ladies to be accepted amongst other minorities in things like GamerGate & ComisGate

Course, I think those actually speaking out right now won’t have good PR amongst those who’d fire em

 

[LifeisTiresome]

I don’t want the majority of women punished for the actions of these douchebag feminists

Hell, the fact there are women even in gaming who dislike SJWs very much and are purposely forgotten due to how much it goes against the narrative for said ladies to be accepted amongst other minorities in things like GamerGate & ComisGate

Course, I think those actually speaking out right now won’t have good PR amongst those who’d fire em

And this is where you fail and fall into the problem with equality. The pure hypocrisy. Women are equal and sometimes better then men according to media and academia but still we need to protect them.

If women were truly equal? Then let them suffer from the consequences of their own actions and fix their own damn issues like men are expected to. All you hear from people when it comes to men is man up, work hard. Same should apply to women if we really are equal.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

And this is where you fail and fall into the problem with equality. The pure hypocrisy. Women are equal and sometimes better then men according to media and academia but still we need to protect them.

If women were truly equal? Then let them suffer from the consequences of their own actions and fix their own damn issues like men are expected to. All you hear from people when it comes to men is man up, work hard. Same should apply to women if we really are equal.

Well, I guess letting them solve their own problems is a step, first they all need to get some spine and tell others calling em bigots off

If not, well there’s a saying about the Danegeld

 

[LifeisTiresome]

Well, I guess letting them solve their own problems is a step, first they all need to get some spine and tell others calling em bigots off

If not, well there’s a saying about the Danegeld

Exactly. let women fix the issue. If they won't? Then let them fail.

 

[Jormungandr]

I feel sorry for that girl. She worked so hard, sacrificed so much, only to have it snatched away from her. All, because some people deny reality, just because they want to falsely be seen as virtuous. And it is bullshit that people like her get bullied when they point out the truth and air their grievances.

Hope, they can win their case.

Yeah: she was pretty much robbed. She spent all the time and effort, only to be completely blindsided and denied. I wish her luck in her legal battle.

 

[Hlaalu Agent]

Yeah: she was pretty much robbed. She spent all the time and effort, only to be completely blindsided and denied. I wish her luck in her legal battle.

Indeed, and at this time it might be the only thing we can do. But when we can, we need to push back to prevent such unfairness from happening in the future.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Exactly. let women fix the issue. If they won't? Then let them fail.

Still, shame of those few women having to deal with the decisions of the majority who are cowards and/or idiots

All those few wanted was to compete in women's sports, the rest fell for something frankly insane

It’d be like a guy who knows absolutely everything wrong with socialism trying to move out before the “revolution” fully takes over only to find himself trapped with all the crazy idiots

 

[Tryglaw]

As always, there's a South Park episode for that:

 

[LifeisTiresome]

Still, shame of those few women having to deal with the decisions of the majority who are cowards and/or idiots

All those few wanted was to compete in women's sports, the rest fell for something frankly insane

It’d be like a guy who knows absolutely everything wrong with socialism trying to move out before the “revolution” fully takes over only to find himself trapped with all the crazy idiots

And? Carl, men get no help. All Men get is man up, deal with it or accusations of being incel or manbaby.

If you are for equality, why do you want to be there to protect women? Women said that they don't need no man. Let them face the same things men do. Thats equality no?