Things get worse in The Southwest

[DarthOne]

california has a long history of populist revolts.

A very long history, smart money is that when we hit the wall and collapse the state will turn blood red.

Ah, but will it be Republican red or Communist red...?

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

If California was an independant country it would, by itself, have a larger economy than every country except for the rest of the US, China, Japan, and Germany.

Except they will have no water. You can't drink money.

 

[bintananth]

Except they will have no water. You can't drink money.

You've never seen someone weathy give a homeless person several gallons of water instead of doing the sensible thing and just handing them all of their cash.

 

[ProfessorCurio]

If California was an independant country it would, by itself, have a larger economy than every country except for the rest of the US, China, Japan, and Germany.

But for how long?

 

[Cherico]

But for how long?

not long with our leadership.

 

[Bacle]

 

[Cherico]

We literally live next to the ocean and desalination tech keeps getting better. But provoking a populist backlash and turning the state bolld red works too I guess.

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

We literally live next to the ocean and desalination tech keeps getting better. But provoking a populist backlash and turning the state bolld red works too I guess.

It won't come. Some people, like the Californians, are just inherently subversient. You could force them out of their homes to place the elites or soldiers there, and they'd meekly accept it. Even if all their properties got seized. There's not a single antiauthorian bone in them.

 

[Cherico]

It won't come. Some people, like the Californians, are just inherently subversient. You could force them out of their homes to place the elites or soldiers there, and they'd meekly accept it. Even if all their properties got seized. There's not a single antiauthorian bone in them.

Um no.

California actually has a very long history of populist revolts, Grey Davis for example was removed in one.

The state is stupidly left wing right now.

But its not entirely blue, the democrats hold a lot of power but its far from absolute and their coalition of allies is held together with bribes that we simply cant afford, because quite simply put the state is heavily in debt and has been for decades, and we have been heading to that wall at max speed.

The idea outcome, the federal government bails us out, Pelosi squandered that there was a 2 year window when that could be done and now its impossible. She's now looking to retire in Florida, and has already bought property there most likely for her own safety.

The second ideal out come is the more painful bankrupcy which we would only be allowed to do if the federal government gives the go ahead. Which means that the democrats will have no choice but to give the republicans a lot of things they want or the state heads into the final outcome.

economic collapse.

The debt is too high, the government services are unsustainable the center can not hold and we have a small army of buracrats who were promised very generous retirements and those retirements started enmass this year.


The democratic plan is pretty much put off the pain for as long as possible and hope some other idiot gets stuck with the mess. Which just means its going to be even worse when it does blow up. When this hits and it will hit all at once the state is fucked, and then people get red pilled the hard way.

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

She's now looking to retire in Florida, and has already bought property there most likely for her own safety.

As if that's going to stop anyone sufficiently pissed-off at her.

Which means that the democrats will have no choice but to give the republicans a lot of things they want or the state heads into the final outcome.

economic collapse.

Y'know, a diabolical mindset could pump the demorats for every bit of concessions they can get only to renege on their part and letting Commiefornia collapse anyway, acting in the same bad faith the Demorats used the past, oh say, 40 years. Sure, it would make tensions higher and "cooperations" even more unlikely. But personally I wouldn't care much. You know why? Because the demorats have abused this kind of thing for far too long to not get hit with their own tools they used so liberally.

 

[Cherico]

As if that's going to stop anyone sufficiently pissed-off at her.

Y'know, a diabolical mindset could pump the demorats for every bit of concessions they can get only to renege on their part and letting Commiefornia collapse anyway, acting in the same bad faith the Demorats used the past, oh say, 40 years. Sure, it would make tensions higher and "cooperations" even more unlikely. But personally I wouldn't care much. You know why? Because the demorats have abused this kind of thing for far too long to not get hit with their own tools they used so liberally.

California has two pieces to give up that would get them permission to declare bankruptcy.

Silcon Vally and Hollywood.

Silicon Vally made itself very very hated so I think the republicans would be willing to follow through with the deal just to get some of that sweet sweet revenge.

Hollywood it the piece that has sentimental value and thus would be surrendered only in the most dire of circumstances but is also possible.

 

[Bigking321]

What do you mean give up?

 

[Blasterbot]

As if that's going to stop anyone sufficiently pissed-off at her.

Y'know, a diabolical mindset could pump the demorats for every bit of concessions they can get only to renege on their part and letting Commiefornia collapse anyway, acting in the same bad faith the Demorats used the past, oh say, 40 years. Sure, it would make tensions higher and "cooperations" even more unlikely. But personally I wouldn't care much. You know why? Because the demorats have abused this kind of thing for far too long to not get hit with their own tools they used so liberally.

the other side of the coin is the Cali state government is banking of a federal bail out. admittedly like a fair few other state and local governments. if we fail to get and keep federal purse strings that may just become the whole country's problem and the Progs will keep pushing.

 

[49ersfootball]

My prediction is that if these problems are not dealt with California will either become a battleground state or turn red.

CA will NEVER be a Red State anytime soon.

 

[Bigking321]

CA will NEVER be a Red State anytime soon.

True enough. They have everything quite rigged.

It would be easier to believe that it would collapse into anarchy rather than let itself go red at this point.

 

[DarthOne]

 

[Cherico]

True enough. They have everything quite rigged.

It would be easier to believe that it would collapse into anarchy rather than let itself go red at this point.

the collapse into anarchy comes first then it goes red.

 

[Husky_Khan]

America is a disease. California is the Cure.

 

[Bigking321]

I have never seen such a perfect example of a inverted perception of reality.

 

[AspblastUSA]

Huh, so that’s what Nurglite preaching sounds like.