The War in Afghanistan

Sobek

Disgusting Scalie
He makes no secret he is a puppet of powers that be. Remember when he ended a conference saying "I am not supposed to talk more than this" or something like it?

What we see in that senile dementia patient is just the face of a troika of Kamala, Hillary and God knows how many other high level professional politicians in D.C.
 

Bacle

When the effort is no longer profitable...
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"After the evac is complete, or mission will go on."

Yeah, this is going to be used as an excuse for 'mission creep' of some sort.

Now we need to see what form it takes and what excuses given.

Edit: Ok, just another anti-ISIS 'over the horizon' campaign. Bets on 'maybe some American 'advisors' among the Taliban who will likely be the 'boots on the ground'' happening.

Syria 2.0 here we come.
 

Circle of Willis

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"After the evac is complete, or mission will go on."

Yeah, this is going to be used as an excuse for 'mission creep' of some sort.

Now we need to see what form it takes and what excuses given.

Edit: Ok, just another anti-ISIS 'over the horizon' campaign. Bets on 'maybe some American 'advisors' among the Taliban who will likely be the 'boots on the ground'' happening.

Syria 2.0 here we come.
If this entire sordid mess actually ends with Biden allying with the Taliban to defeat ISIS-KP in the short term and in hopes of using them as the next 'moderate Syrian Afghan rebel/partner' proxy in the longer run, there's a non-zero chance that I'll die of laughter. Truly that's the sort of comedy only God could write while particularly bored & drunk.
 

The Original Sixth

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Oh great, he's playing the 'my kids were in the military card' thing now.

It was the only move he had to play. Anyone with an ounce of brain or even compassion would have said the same thing. We can't really blame him for saying something that any of us in his place, would have said?

And at the end of it, he is sticking to his guns. He will not go back in Afghanistan. We will be out by the 31st. If he was a puppet who took orders as given, he would not be doing this. As much as I know some people here don't like to admit it, Biden is not a puppet. Not more than Trump was. He has advisors, trusted friends, and experts that he listens to--and yes, he is far more reliant on them because of his inexperience and his degrading mental facilities, but he makes his own decisions.

Overall, it was as best of a press conference as anyone could manage.

Biden tries to blame Trump!

Everyone take a shot!

Not even the press is accepting that anymore. It's been at least a week since any of them have let the admin get away with that. They always respond with "it's not that we're leaving, it's HOW we're leaving" or some other counterpoint to the actual withdrawal. And if you watch enough, you'll notice it's always at an angle that we should stay longer and do more. Whereas the admin has always responded with "we're leaving on the 31st and that's final".
 

Bacle

When the effort is no longer profitable...
Founder
It was the only move he had to play. Anyone with an ounce of brain or even compassion would have said the same thing. We can't really blame him for saying something that any of us in his place, would have said?

And at the end of it, he is sticking to his guns. He will not go back in Afghanistan. We will be out by the 31st. If he was a puppet who took orders as given, he would not be doing this. As much as I know some people here don't like to admit it, Biden is not a puppet. Not more than Trump was. He has advisors, trusted friends, and experts that he listens to--and yes, he is far more reliant on them because of his inexperience and his degrading mental facilities, but he makes his own decisions.

Overall, it was as best of a press conference as anyone could manage.
If you actually think this won't end up like the 'withdrawal from Iraq' that saw ISIS first emerge and break out, I have a beach house in the Gobi to sell you.
 

Bacle

When the effort is no longer profitable...
Founder
No clue yet
Just suicide bombers for now; more bang and chaos for your buck than trying to take out the planes and runway with mortars.

Shoot and scoot mortar threats are too easy to back trace on radar, and emergency runway patching isn't exactly a new thing.

 

The Original Sixth

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If you actually think this won't end up like the 'withdrawal from Iraq' that saw ISIS first emerge and break out, I have a beach house in the Gobi to sell you.

It isn't? The US leaving Iraq created a power vacuum that the Iraqi government could not fill. That, plus the growing power and phenomenon of ISIS, led to their massive growth. The US leaving Afghanistan has created a power vacuum that the Taliban have more or less filled. ISIS-K is attempting to upset that and take control, but seeing as they're resorting to suicide bombings and not, you know, outright warfare, tells me that they don't have the strong hand they did in Iraq.

But maybe I'm wrong. Either way, I don't think Biden is going to want to go back into Afghanistan. Especially after the blood that will be on his hands in trying to get out.
 

The Whispering Monk

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Osaul
This felt like an attack of opportunity with what could be had on short notice. I'm leary about what will come with more add'l time to bring assets to bear. Really depends on who's behind this. IF it's a portion of the Taliban, or portion turned by ISIS, then we may see mortar/rocket attacks in addition to more suicide attacks...possibly with vehicles.

Hell, a couple of well positioned MGs to take advantage of the chaos would REALLY set the FUBAR scale.
 

The Original Sixth

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This felt like an attack of opportunity with what could be had on short notice. I'm leary about what will come with more add'l time to bring assets to bear. Really depends on who's behind this. IF it's a portion of the Taliban, or portion turned by ISIS, then we may see mortar/rocket attacks in addition to more suicide attacks...possibly with vehicles.

Hell, a couple of well positioned MGs to take advantage of the chaos would REALLY set the FUBAR scale.

The Taliban have already won. Attacking the USA is really not what they're interested in doing. This is most probably, as reports suggest, an attack by ISIS-K. It would suit them to carry out this attack. It undermines the Taliban's new government and it might provoke the US into attacking or staying longer. All of which would make it worse for the US and the Taliban, while ISIS-K can take advantage of the chaos.
 
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