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Husky_Khan

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Just full disclosure, the 3000% stat comes from 95 convicted sex offenders being apprehended in one sector of the border over the period of one fiscal year.
 

Megadeath

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Just full disclosure, the 3000% stat comes from 95 convicted sex offenders being apprehended in one sector of the border over the period of one fiscal year.
Gee, I wonder why they think they can get back in?
So... The Biden administration is proving far more successful at stopping undesirable criminals from crossing?
 

Megadeath

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What?
He literally told everyone to go ahead and come across. Biden is the reason the increase happened in numbers in the first place
The increase... In arrests? You're clearly just not seeing on the same level he is, it was obviously a honey trap. Dw, not everyone is cut out for this 3D chess stuff. ;)
 

Rocinante

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So... The Biden administration is proving far more successful at stopping undesirable criminals from crossing?
I wouldn't call allowing 1000 illegal crossings a day successful

More than 178,000 migrants were encountered by agents in April, but agents have estimated that as many as 1,000 migrants a day are getting past law enforcement.
 

Zachowon

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The increase... In arrests? You're clearly just not seeing on the same level he is, it was obviously a honey trap. Dw, not everyone is cut out for this 3D chess stuff. ;)
Wtf did you get 3d chess stuff.
I'm not talking about that because of Biden the amount ofnpeople entering the country increased. And that is why there are more arrests and things.
Before Biden there were a lot less coming in, so of course less arrests
 

Megadeath

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I wouldn't call allowing 1000 illegal crossings a day successful
In comparison to what? Also, that's phrased as the upper limit of an estimate. So, unlikely they are actually allowing 1000 illegal crossings a day.

Wtf did you get 3d chess stuff.
I'm not talking about that because of Biden the amount ofnpeople entering the country increased. And that is why there are more arrests and things.
Before Biden there were a lot less coming in, so of course less arrests
But, they're not entering the country in any meaningful way. Because they are being arrested. It takes a particular perversity to see data that says arrests of illegal immigrants is up under Biden and consider that proof for how soft he is on the issue. I mean, human trafficking arrests were up massively under Trump compared to Obama. Does that mean that Trump was going easy on these awful criminals and so encouraging them?
 

Rocinante

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In comparison to what? Also, that's phrased as the upper limit of an estimate. So, unlikely they are actually allowing 1000 illegal crossings a day.


But, they're not entering the country in any meaningful way. Because they are being arrested. It takes a particular perversity to see data that says arrests of illegal immigrants is up under Biden and consider that proof for how soft he is on the issue. I mean, human trafficking arrests were up massively under Trump compared to Obama. Does that mean that Trump was going easy on these awful criminals and so encouraging them?
The only reason arrests are up, are because illegal crossing attempts are at a 21 year high.

While it's expected from a leftist like you, you can stop trying to be a dishonest little weasel any time now. No one buys it.

Border agents aren't doing anything special under Biden, aside from keeping 3x more kids in cages. The biggest surge in two decades is the only reason there are more arrests. This says nothing about Biden except that people are feeling more encouragement to come here with Biden as president, because he comes across as permissive and weak.
 
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Megadeath

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Yeah, There are more arrests because we are at a Twenty-one year high of illegal crossings. Don't expect dishonest weasels like mega to acknowledge facts like that though.
Leaving aside that childish insults and snide asides aren't the best way to hold a conversation, feel free to prove that. Accepting for now it is true, it's not really relevant anyway. I mean, numbers like that are going to generally trend upwards as populations grow. And whether the number of attempted crossings is higher or not, they are still making those arrests. Unless there's a fairly egregious difference in the relative proportion then it kinda seems like Biden is still doing at least as good a job of preventing illegal crossings. So, tell me: there's been a 3,000% increase in at least this particular kind of arrest. To make the proportions worse under Biden than Trump you'd need at least an equally large increase in attempted crossings. Can you show us evidence that this 21 year high is more than 3,000% worse than last year?
 

Megadeath

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-Snip-because he comes across as permissive and weak.
Uh huh... But then the other people misreading the situation are getting arrested. Biden can hardly be responsible for the bad decisions of foreign nationals acting on bad information.
 

Megadeath

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Rocinante

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So, accepting things entirely at face value, attempted crossings are up 10x, whilst at least one type of arrest is up 30x? Sounds like Biden doing much better both in absolute numbers and proportionately at stopping criminal illegals.
I actually deleted that post because I had a figure wrong.

Arrests are up 10x since last year according to that source, so I misquoted the information when I said illegal crossings are up. I don't see a figure for crossings in that particular source, but you can look up even left wing sources and find that they're at A 21 year high. This is an established fact at this point that noth the left and right wing acknowledge.

But I was wrong to quote that article and say crossing attempts are up by ten fold. I misread the statistic. As I don't like spreading false information, I have removed the post.

According to that source, Biden is following almost the same policy that Trump did.

The increased arrests are due to increased crossing attempts, because Biden is following almost identical policy. Are you denying that there is a surge?
 

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