Fallout The Eagle And The Bear [Fallout AU]
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Navarro
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To say more would be spoiling.
CarlManvers2019
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Okay, though were they human or some sort of reptile before the Great War?
Because the first feels too horrifying an idea
Ihopethisworks
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They have very human looking torso. Their hands look vaguely human-ish, although they’ve become claws with only four fingers rather than five.
Definitely mutated humans.
CarlManvers2019
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Given how radiation can give similar mutations even if spread out across regions
I’m guessing there are others similar to Tunnelers out there.
The Enclave and NCR have focused on each other so much that they forgot the barbarity and horrors of the wasteland
SuperHeavy
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Hostile aliens, confirmed Deep Ones references, and now the Terror Below is in the cards. Man Fallout humanity cannot catch a break, even before you factor in the blasted nuclear hellscape.
CarlManvers2019
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Deep One references?
SuperHeavy
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The Dunwich Borers mine quest line was a direct callback to the Dunwich Horror from the mythos, the Cabot artificat that stole sanity of the wearer, and in Fallout 76 you have the "sleeping" Interloper.
ForeverShogo
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Some of the powers typically reserved for the States seems to have been given to the Commonwealths, and they're a big enough deal that the American flag stopped having stars for each individual state and instead had stars for each Commonwealth.
And the original developers for Fallout considered them to be "superstates".
But for whatever reason none of the games have ever felt like tackling exactly what powers the Commonwealths actually had, even as just some out of the way historical information found on a random terminal.
We know that States could be divided up between Commonwealths simply because California is part of two different Commonwealths.
You also have MIT being renamed CIT and the State House in Fallout 4 says it was used by the State government until the formation of the Commonwealths.
We know the States aren't gone, they have some kind of continuing autonomy within the Commonwealth system, but I do think they've probably been significantly weakened in favor of the Commonwealths.
And the original developers for Fallout considered them to be "superstates".
But for whatever reason none of the games have ever felt like tackling exactly what powers the Commonwealths actually had, even as just some out of the way historical information found on a random terminal.
We know that States could be divided up between Commonwealths simply because California is part of two different Commonwealths.
You also have MIT being renamed CIT and the State House in Fallout 4 says it was used by the State government until the formation of the Commonwealths.
We know the States aren't gone, they have some kind of continuing autonomy within the Commonwealth system, but I do think they've probably been significantly weakened in favor of the Commonwealths.
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Lanmandragon
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When? They are burning books,destroying history,and imprisoning folks. That "when" is literally the last chapter that was written. On the plus side the NCR removed any semblance of being the good guys now. They're setting up literal concentration camps genocide is sure to follow.
CarlManvers2019
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“Reeducation Camps” that will leave a number of people doubting what the hell they’re doing and seeing that they’re losing more and more prisoners
They’ll do whatever they can to logic away all the lack of oppression and nightmare they see in Enclave territory, because if they do, suicides may follow
TyrantTriumphant
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I'm curious as to the state of religion in the post apocalypse. I know that the Neo-Enclave is mostly Christian, and I believe that the NCR is as well. But how religion operates in BoS territory is still mostly a mystery.
Since the previous chapter showed that there was a church in a BoS controlled town, it looks like the BoS at least doesn't forbid Christianity, though I doubt that many of the BoS members are Christian themselves.
My personal guess is that the Brotherhood doesn't care that much what their subjects believe as long as they don't speak openly against them and don't use advanced tech.
I had previously thought that common religious beliefs could contribute to some sort of peace between the NCR and the USA, but with the revelation of the schism in the American Catholic church that seems to be in doubt.
I'm very interested in what the Christians in the USA and NCR think of each other. It must be strange for people in the NCR to hear people who they believe are the embodiment of evil profess religious views that are basically the same as theirs.
Since the previous chapter showed that there was a church in a BoS controlled town, it looks like the BoS at least doesn't forbid Christianity, though I doubt that many of the BoS members are Christian themselves.
My personal guess is that the Brotherhood doesn't care that much what their subjects believe as long as they don't speak openly against them and don't use advanced tech.
I had previously thought that common religious beliefs could contribute to some sort of peace between the NCR and the USA, but with the revelation of the schism in the American Catholic church that seems to be in doubt.
I'm very interested in what the Christians in the USA and NCR think of each other. It must be strange for people in the NCR to hear people who they believe are the embodiment of evil profess religious views that are basically the same as theirs.
Navarro
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BoS follow a deist religion based on a stripped-down version of Christianity.
Correct.
There will be movement along these lines.
There'll be stuff on that eventually.
Floridaman
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The California situation is more likely Jefferson succeeding in appealing for statehood
Jefferson (proposed Pacific state) - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
CarlManvers2019
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Are people still visiting places like Jerusalem? I mean the technology is there and possibly the services too
SuperHeavy
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Considering before even the Chinese-US war kicked off Israel got nuked and then the entire Middle East burned in nuclear fire of the Resource Wars, I would not be confident many holy cities are intact.
ForeverShogo
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I guess it depends on if they were spared.
The only city to have explicit confirmation of destruction was Tel Aviv. It says the Middle East experienced a "limited nuclear exchange", but nothing is said if holy cities like Jerusalem or Mecca got nuked.
And I won't say something like Jefferson is impossible, but it's never been mentioned and if it did happen it must be a limited version that only includes Northern California instead of also having Southern Oregon.
The only city to have explicit confirmation of destruction was Tel Aviv. It says the Middle East experienced a "limited nuclear exchange", but nothing is said if holy cities like Jerusalem or Mecca got nuked.
And I won't say something like Jefferson is impossible, but it's never been mentioned and if it did happen it must be a limited version that only includes Northern California instead of also having Southern Oregon.
Floridaman
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Sounds like a fun side story maybe some power armored knights.