United States The Doom of Ghislaine Maxwell

[Bacle]

Yeah, from my POV it seems that the accuser is fine, a tweeter just put people's names in her mouth. Out of all powerful politicians, Obama and Michelle are the least likely to be involved with Epstein. He mattered for about 4 years (2005-2008) prior to being under intense scrutiny as prez, and then he was just a junior senator from outside NY with few connections. When he's prez, he's watched pretty closely by the public, so I think it woulda come out by now.

And yet we have the Clinton's being Clinton's and getting away with a lot, and the high ranking Dems are all likely friends of Epstein and get away with just as much.

So, yeah, I think it's definitely possible, and the fact the press and courts have so seriously tried to protect the name of Epstein's clients only lends it more credence.

 

[Captain X]

People like this should just release what they have instead of trying to tease it. All they're doing is putting a big target on their back.

 

[Rocinante]

People like this should just release what they have instead of trying to tease it. All they're doing is putting a big target on their back.

I'll just assume it's a lie until it's either released, or she turns up mysteriously dead.

 

[Abhorsen]

And yet we have the Clinton's being Clinton's and getting away with a lot, and the high ranking Dems are all likely friends of Epstein and get away with just as much.

So, yeah, I think it's definitely possible, and the fact the press and courts have so seriously tried to protect the name of Epstein's clients only lends it more credence.

The Clintons are a ton more likely. Even ignoring the plane rides, they were famous & important for a ton of time prior to Epstein's first arrest, while not being president. They had the entire 2000s to do this. Obama had next to no time. If he had won the presidency in '92, I'd say he would have had time to have done it. But he didn't. He was busy from '08-'16, and unimportant before then. Look, if you got actual evidence that isn't a random person on twitter, sure. Obviously, I'm believing whatever the victim says here, as she's a confirmed victim with no reason to lie. I just don't know what she said here, and have no reason to believe it's Obama.

 

[Rocinante]

The Clintons are a ton more likely. Even ignoring the plane rides, they were famous & important for a ton of time prior to Epstein's first arrest, while not being president. They had the entire 2000s to do this. Obama had next to no time. If he had won the presidency in '92, I'd say he would have had time to have done it. But he didn't. He was busy from '08-'16, and unimportant before then. Look, if you got actual evidence that isn't a random person on twitter, sure. Obviously, I'm believing whatever the victim says here, as she's a confirmed victim with no reason to lie. I just don't know what she said here, and have no reason to believe it's Obama.

With accusations this big...even knowing that she was a legitimate victim, and that Epstein did run a pedo island that famous and powerful people visited, and that those names are being concealed because they're so high profile, I *still* choose not to believe it until there's proof.

This is a blow the roofs off type of revelation. I'm not buying it without proof. Even if I think it's extremely possible, or even likely.

 

[Abhorsen]

With accusations this big...even knowing that she was a legitimate victim, and that Epstein did run a pedo island that famous and powerful people visited, and that those names are being concealed because they're so high profile, I *still* choose not to believe it until there's proof.

This is a blow the roofs off type of revelation. I'm not buying it without proof. Even if I think it's extremely possible, or even likely.

Again, note that she didn't necessarily make the accusation of the Obamas. The people she accused were redacted, then a random twitter dude filled in Barack and Michelle Obama. That guy was likely pulling that out of his ass.

 

[Bacle]

Bill Clinton to be unmasked as ‘Doe 36’ and identified more than 50 times in Jeffrey Epstein doc dump

The former president, 77, is known to have associated with Jeffrey Epstein for years before the sex offender was caught and committed suicide.

nypost.com

So Bill Clinton is set to be named in the new doc dump related to the Epstein case, that unmasks many 'Doe's' who were not named in the OG court case.

 

[49ersfootball]

Not surprised that Prince Andrew, Duke of York & former US President Bill Clinton are on the list.

Gut feeling there's more high-profile names on it. Anybody else want to guess who's on the growing massive list ?

 

[Spartan303]

Are there any names there or suspected that ya'll might find surprising?

 

[Abhorsen]

Are there any names there or suspected that ya'll might find surprising?

IDK about surprising, but I'd be surprised if Bill Gates wasn't there.

 

[Cherico]

Are there any names there or suspected that ya'll might find surprising?

would not be surprised if Hillary was also a client.

 

[Captain X]

Honestly, though, I'm not getting too excited until I actually see the list published. This could still get stopped at the last minute or something.

 

[49ersfootball]

Honestly, though, I'm not getting too excited until I actually see the list published. This could still get stopped at the last minute or something.

We're going to find out soon enough.

 

[Abhorsen]

So the stuff came out, though notably not a simple list of clients. Anyone got a link to the actual source?
Nevermind. The full trove of documents is available for download here:

Download the Newly Unsealed Jeffrey Epstein Documents Here

Hundreds of pages of documents related to Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell were unsealed Wednesday. Here they are.

www.404media.co

Or here for online:

https://uploads.guim.co.uk/2024/01/04/Final_Epstein_documents.pdf

Note I'm not sure if the online one is everything.

 

[Abhorsen]

Replacing this with a key quote from Virginia Guiffre:

Q: Other than Glenn Dubin, [REDACTED], Prince Andrew, Jean Luc Brunel, Bill Richardson, another prince, the large hotel chain owner and Marvin Minsky, is there anyone else that Ghislaine Maxwell directed you to go have sex with?

A: I am definitely sure there is. But can I remember everybody's name? No.

It seems that the "large hotel chain owner" was Thomas Pritzker.

 

[Abhorsen]

There are definitely missing pages in what was released.

You can look at the page numbers, and there are sudden jumps in the numbers. I think this is normal enough, but it's annoying.

 

[Bacle]

 

[Abhorsen]

I'd take the "not on the Island" stuff with a heap of salt. Usually it's just one victim saying that they didn't see them on the island, etc. Or it's Ghislaine, who massively lies about stuff.

The stuff that places people as having sex with others is what's most important.

 

[Iconoclast]

Jeffrey Epstein was an intelligence asset. A fake billionaire. All of his money came from intelligence slush funds. He was a fixer for the CIA and Mossad whose job was to blackmail our dignitaries and put them under the thumb of the IC, who, in their turn, answer to high-net-worth individuals who hold the levers of supranational power. Who do you think introduced Alan Dershowitz to Jeffrey Epstein in the first place? It was Lynn Forester de Rothschild.

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@NameIsSpartacus: Jeffrey Epstein was a Mossad and CIA asset who received his funds from Les Wexner and Charles Bronfman's Mega Group, which is a Mossad front organization (incidentally, Charles Bronfman's niece, Cl...…

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Why would people even bother waiting for the client list? This could all be deduced from available information years and years ago.

 

[Husky_Khan]

They got David Copperfield!

Sjoberg also provided two new names in her deposition: David Copperfield and Michael Jackson. She claimed that she met Jackson at Epstein's Palm Beach mansion. On another occasion at one of Epstein's homes, she met Copperfield, who she said "did some magic tricks." Sjoberg claimed that Copperfield "questioned me if I was aware that girls were getting paid to find other girls."

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/who-are-the-newly-revealed-jeffrey-epstein-associates.html

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