Serious question about anti-Semitism.

[Sol Zagato]

"We're not undermining the morality of Western civilization, HONEST!"

The Jewish Quarterly

Careful how you frame that. That's an article that basically calls Jews in general a bunch of subversives, but thinks it's a good thing.

Various people pointed out earlier, in this thread, that criticizing whole ethnic groups is stupid, because they're not an organization or an ideology. This article makes a similar error in its praise- presuming Jews in general would agree with its sentiments.

I think it's a mistake for you to do the same. Be precise.

 

[Navarro]

Are you literally just repeating this shit to make us look bad, or do you genuinely believe it? Look, there's no "great Jewish conspiracy". Never has been.

 

[Cherico]

Are you literally just repeating this shit to make us look bad, or do you genuinely believe it? Look, there's no "great Jewish conspiracy". Never has been.

If theres a conspirarcy then they have done a very shitty job.

I live in a fucking used RV....if theirs a conspiracy then I want the fucking hook up man.

 

[Nitramy]

This might be pattern recognition where there is actually none.

But if you take into account how other people perceive this and see their own patterns, then yeah, this is really bad optics for Jewish people.

 

[Deleted member]

This might be pattern recognition where there is actually none.

But if you take into account how other people perceive this and see their own patterns, then yeah, this is really bad optics for Jewish people.

Only because people are willing to judge based on a few ranting leftists with a newsletter. Considering what has happened to the Jewish people in the past, even repeating these articles... Is to give the people writing them altogether too much of what they want.

 

[LifeisTiresome]

This might be pattern recognition where there is actually none.

But if you take into account how other people perceive this and see their own patterns, then yeah, this is really bad optics for Jewish people.

Your own article even says that said jews aren't even religious. Basically, they are just left elitists who happen to be jews and use that fact to their advantage.

 

[Nitramy]

Your own article even says that said jews aren't even religious. Basically, they are just left elitists who happen to be jews and use that fact to their advantage.

Right, them sweet, sweet victimbux.

 

[tirrene]

Your own article even says that said jews aren't even religious. Basically, they are just left elitists who happen to be jews and use that fact to their advantage.

All of them? Every single one?

 

[Scottty]

"We're not undermining the morality of Western civilization, HONEST!"

The Jewish Quarterly

Let me try to bring some sanity here.

Nitramy, you are running into a major cultural disconnect. People in the West have been taught from childhood that being "Anti-Semitic" is about the worst thing one can be. And, based on the kind of collectivist thinking discussed earlier in this very thread. any criticism of the actions of individual Jews, or of groups of them, is interpreted as an attack on that entire people.

Okay, that being said, I quite agree with you that the porn industry is something bad and wrong. Secular Jews, of the sort mentioned in that article, can be and often are very bad people.
Lacking any religious frame of reference, they are peddling vice that harms people's souls, in order to line their own pockets.
But I don't think they are part of some deliberate plot to undermine Western civilization, under orders from the Kremlin. No, they are doing it because there's money in it. Simple as that.

But Cherico and the other Jewish posters here are almost certainly not getting any of that dirty money. Jews are not a hive-mind or a collective, they aren't all involved in everything any of them are up to. They disagree with each other a lot.

 

[tirrene]

Lacking any religious frame of reference, they are peddling vice that harms people's souls, in order to line their own pockets.
But I don't think they are part of some deliberate plot to undermine Western civilization, under orders from the Kremlin. No, they are doing it because there's money in it. Simple as that.

Wouldn't that affect all atheists then? They all lack a RELIGIOUS frame of moral reference, after all.

 

[Edgeplay_cgo]

Are you literally just repeating this shit to make us look bad, or do you genuinely believe it? Look, there's no "great Jewish conspiracy". Never has been.

Exactly. This is a lot like the, "The Jews control the Media" meme. I thought they were supposed to be good businessmen (Yes, another silly stereotype.). Considering the generally anti Semitic slant of the media, they sure get poor value for money.

 

[Scottty]

Wouldn't that affect all atheists then? They all lack a RELIGIOUS frame of moral reference, after all.

Well... lots of people who identify as atheists still get their morality from the culture in which they were raised, and so generally believe in not stealing, not cheating on their wives, etc etc.
"All atheists" is a set of people even more diverse than "all Jews".

 

[Nitramy]

Wouldn't that affect all atheists then? They all lack a RELIGIOUS frame of moral reference, after all.

Well, judging by my own personal experience, nearly all Atheism+ people are overbearing moral busybodies policing others' thoughts, words, and actions in the name of their false god Intersectionality.

tl;dr: Atheism+ is a group of assholes.

 

[tirrene]

Well, judging by my own personal experience, nearly all Atheism+ people are overbearing moral busybodies policing others' thoughts, words, and actions in the name of their false god Intersectionality.

tl;dr: Atheism+ is a group of assholes.

the heck is Atheism+

 

[LifeisTiresome]

All of them? Every single one?

What do you mean?

 

[Nitramy]

the heck is Atheism+

Atheism except they worship Intersectionality like a god

 

[Lanmandragon]

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the heck is Atheism+

Originally it was a YouTube group of skeptics and athiests. They were fronted by guys like Rich Dawkins. They were then infiltrated and basically destroyed by SJWs. They we're actually one if the first groups destroyed from what I remember. Don't quote me on that though.

 

[tirrene]

What do you mean?

I mean exactly what I said: do you mean ALL Jewish people are leftist elitists who are always playing the Nazi card?

 

[Nitramy]

I mean exactly what I said: do you mean ALL Jewish people are leftist elitists who are always playing the Nazi card?

More like they're playing the Nazi card to avoid responsibility for their actions.

I hope this is only because of the victimization culture we have and they're just playing along.

 

[LifeisTiresome]

I mean exactly what I said: do you mean ALL Jewish people are leftist elitists who are always playing the Nazi card?

Where did I say all jews are left or elitists?

I said that the ones in Nitramy's article are basically leftists who for that specific article also happen to be jews and use that to their advantage.

For example,



This right here, shit like this is what makes people go all "jewish conspiracy!"

I believe you call it confirmation bias?

Its not hard to find stuff like what Nitramy posted. Just google search for it or youtube search for it.

I have no problem with jewish people and don't believe this whole jewish conspiracy nonsense but leftists who happen to be jews love pointing out that they are jewish which ends up feuling anti-jewish sentiments cause confirmation bias.