Why not both?
Russian-Ukrainian-Polish Eternal Friendship Thread
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Why not both?
Lets keep these exercises going! And Belarus is thumping its chest for some reason in regards to the Donbass Conflict as well.
Maybe Putin decided that keeping Donbass is too costly and decided to gave it to Belaruss? He is mastermind here,Łukaszenko was once independent,but now is his minion and is doing whatever Moscov wont.
Partially Poland fault.He try to contact us many times,but we refused.Well,to late now.
Partially Poland fault.He try to contact us many times,but we refused.Well,to late now.
Both of them know that taking care of a lawless ruin with questionable legal and political status would cost a lot, and neither of them can spare the necessary money. Hell, even Ukraine probably knows. And Donbass is a long way from Belarus.
Seems more like a maneuver to try distract Ukraine from locating their limited forces in a more useful place.
It would give Belarus a port on the Black Sea, if they take over all the rebel areas, while Russia could keep Crimea.
It would also create a new buffer state for Russia, which might mollify them in the midterm.
My concern is that the conflict is getting near the Chernobyl exclusion zone, if Belarus enters with forces and their is a new active front opened in the conflict there.
That would mean breaking through Ukraine to DNR/LNR, taking that whole place up, and then breaking through Ukraine again to Black Sea.
Belarus doesn't have the forces to do even half of that, especially with their relatively small population and standing army, Russian forces, and i mean proper mechanized divisions and air force, not just random mercenaries, would need to do the bulk of the fighting either way.
Also Belarus would be extremely wary of fully drafting reserve units and issuing them weapons in current political climate... doubly so following that up by telling them to go invade Ukraine.
There would be worries that they decide to head in a wrong direction.
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True.
But - it could be maskirowka,and they in reality plan to invade somebody else,for example Poland.Old trick,pretend to attack X and then attack Y.
Or - Putin really have super weapons and could do so.Maybe riding on bears ?
Luka is not stupid enough to attack NATO without Russia, and Russia is not stupid enough to attack NATO without a very good plan to get away with it.
Its probably to pressure and distract Ukraine from something by getting them to allocate some forces to that border.
What could it be? Either to stop them from making a move on DNR/LNR, or opposing Russia's move on DNR/LNR, or on nearby Ukrainian territories.
History Learner
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The Russians aren't going to invade Ukraine, but honestly they should IMHO.
Belarus' President Lukashenko offers to host Russian Nukes if NATO moves to locate nuclear weapons in Eastern Europe. Also Putin has warned NATO that the deployment of troops or weapons to Ukraine is a 'red line' for Russia and will provoke a 'strong response.'
www.scmp.com
Belarus leader offers to host Russian nukes as Moscow-Nato tensions mount
The long-time president of Belarus said that his country would be ready to host Russian nuclear weapons if Nato moves US atomic bombs from Germany to Eastern Europe.
www.scmp.com
Belarus' President Lukashenko offers to host Russian Nukes if NATO moves to locate nuclear weapons in Eastern Europe. Also Putin has warned NATO that the deployment of troops or weapons to Ukraine is a 'red line' for Russia and will provoke a 'strong response.'
Belarus leader offers to host Russian nukes as Moscow-Nato tensions mount
The long-time president of Belarus said that his country would be ready to host Russian nuclear weapons if Nato moves US atomic bombs from Germany to Eastern Europe.
Then,if NATO wont do that,they should answer that those are "green man" from Crimea which buy their stuff in nearby shop.
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PsihoKekec
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Stationing combat units in Ukraine is signal to Russia that you will do Barbarossa II. Guess how will they react.
We wouldn't invade.
It just would give then a reason
History Learner
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Even ignoring the risk of a nuclear war with Russia, why exactly are we sending American boys to die in Ukraine? This whole fiasco in Eastern Europe really needs to be looked at in that light too; why are we doing this and what are we supposed to gain from it?
Because Ukraine is an ally and letting Russia roll over yhem is a sign to EVERYONE that has beef with someone that the US won't get invovled.
Causing world War 3 as our allies throw thier men at it.
PsihoKekec
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Fucking over Russia was and is the USA modus operandi ever since the USSR collapsed. The goal of the USA elites who want the conflict with Russia is to see you dead and broke, your children brainwashed and rape, and they are getting their way in USA, but Russia refused their dogma and therefore it must be broken. They want it to be a sundered shell of a country, from where they can get children to rape and other raw resources for cheap and the fact that the Russia is getting healthier instead, while refusing the shitlib dogma infuriates them. So they will continue to up the stakes, until either the USA collapses under the weight of wokeism, Russia is crushed or we have all out nuclear holocaust.
Also Ukraine is not an ally, it is a vassal.
Also Ukraine is not an ally, it is a vassal.
Wow, hot take there, but you are wrong. The current US government is actually focused on China majority and that is why there is doubt we will defend Ukraine.
I mean Trump would have done it as well but when the left is in charge it is automatically some elitist thing.
Russia isn't getting healthier at all. They still have a population on the downfall. They have horrendous abortion and suicide rates. Russia isn't some bastion of perfect right wing values.....
I mean Trump would have done it as well but when the left is in charge it is automatically some elitist thing.
Russia isn't getting healthier at all. They still have a population on the downfall. They have horrendous abortion and suicide rates. Russia isn't some bastion of perfect right wing values.....