Russian-Ukrainian-Polish Eternal Friendship Thread

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Belarusian force's fired on Polish Border Guards, though no one was injured and there is the possibility the forces were using blanks.

Still an escaltion in tensions in an area that has never been that stable to begin with. A Poland v Belarus war would be...bad.
 

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I seriously doubt Belorussia and Poland will go to war over rapefugees, it's more likely they will start pushing them into Ukraine instead.
 

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Belarusian force's fired on Polish Border Guards, though no one was injured and there is the possibility the forces were using blanks.

Still an escaltion in tensions in an area that has never been that stable to begin with. A Poland v Belarus war would be...bad.

Only if Russia will so.Belarus is their attack dog.And why Russia need that? they would get all,when UE disintegrate.Taking part of Poland would made others wary.
Of course,by that time China could take Russia....
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I seriously doubt Belorussia and Poland will go to war over rapefugees, it's more likely they will start pushing them into Ukraine instead.
They don't want to go to Ukraine, Ukraine is poor. They pay thousands of dollars to get to Germoney, or at minimum through EU border, like Poland.
This whole scheme was initiated as retaliation over all the new sanctions, penalties and bad PR over the fake terror threat plane landing he did to catch that one opposition leader.
 

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The same goes for any other border country.Only Poland is targeted - which mean,Russia ordered it.Why? they could wait few years and get entire UE when it fall.
Not only Poland. Poland was not even the first to be targeted this way, just the biggest, and with longest border.
Latvia and Lithuania are targeted too, and in fact Lithuania was first, they started doing it in June there.
And that's 3 out of 3 EU countries Belarus has a border with.
 

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They don't want to go to Ukraine, Ukraine is poor.
They can continue their path to Europe through Ukraine. And Belarussia will not give the rapefugees a chance to linger within it's territory, if they can't get rid of them through Polish border, then they'll switch to Ukraine.
 

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They can continue their path to Europe through Ukraine. And Belarussia will not give the rapefugees a chance to linger within it's territory, if they can't get rid of them through Polish border, then they'll switch to Ukraine.
The problem is that then the burden of the operation does not hit any part of the EU then, because Ukraine as an intermediary is an especially inconvenient combination of poor, anti-Russia, and not giving a fuck about western media sensibilities.
Also they don't have exactly chill situation on the border with Ukraine due to being an ally of Russia, not sure if even the migrants themselves want to do shenanigans in front of so many itchy trigger fingers.
Getting rid of the migrants is not an issue for Belarus, they want to go to the west themselves, and they are only there because of a state run airline/tourist agency run operation. If Belarus wanted the migrants to stop coming, all it takes is an order to the airports.
 

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Not only Poland. Poland was not even the first to be targeted this way, just the biggest, and with longest border.
Latvia and Lithuania are targeted too, and in fact Lithuania was first, they started doing it in June there.
And that's 3 out of 3 EU countries Belarus has a border with.

Still would not be possible without Putin blessing.
And It started there,but now it is almost only to Poland.Becouse we have opposition which support everybody,including Putin,against current goverment.Even Latvian and lithuanian russian minorities behave better.
Well,except suicidal love for jews our other national problem are traitors who would work for basically everybody.
I am really suprised,that most of them do not become muslims yet.
 

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Still would not be possible without Putin blessing.
Of course not. But why would he oppose it?
And It started there,but now it is almost only to Poland.Becouse we have opposition which support everybody,including Putin,against current goverment.Even Latvian and lithuanian russian minorities behave better.
Not really.
Then there is geography - Poland not only has the longest border with Belarus by far,
it is also the shortest route to the soft and generous west. Any migrants who cross to Latvia will have to go through Lithuania and Poland anyway, and those who cross through Lithuania will have to go through Poland too. So they think, why not just go the shortest distance and also risk messing with one country's law enforcement instead of 3.
As such, the target priority will go Poland>Lithuania>Latvia, and that's what we are seeing now.
If we fortify the border meaningfully better than Lithuania they will likely focus more on Lithuania again then.

There is also a problem with our "liberal" leftist media being as migrant obsessed as the western ones, and in turn the opposition is media guided. They are acting suspiciously exactly like the worst of western establishment parties, because they take their clues from the same media owned by the same companies and parroting the same political line, and beg for their favor too, except even more openly and desperately than the neighbors who do that, being the second rate servants they are.

Even fucking Tusk realized that migrant obsession is going to be PR kryptonite as far as the general public is concerned, but the younger, more western media obeying, more leftist wing of the party overruled him, ensuring that our opposition yet again drifts to the left in politics and down in the polls.
Well,except suicidal love for jews our other national problem are traitors who would work for basically everybody.
Not everybody, just anybody who will throw them good media coverage or money to buy it.
Also any love for Jews they have is in hope of inviting back a left leaning minority with lots of money to donate for activist media who are going to be the only thing standing between them and a fascist takeover (hahaha) to Poland from the diaspora in the west.
Also potential American NGO monies.
I am really suprised,that most of them do not become muslims yet.
Oil money doesn't grow on trees, and the ones who control the oilfields don't need their services.
 
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Of course not. But why would he oppose it?

Not really.
Then there is geography - Poland not only has the longest border with Belarus by far,
it is also the shortest route to the soft and generous west. Any migrants who cross to Latvia will have to go through Lithuania and Poland anyway, and those who cross through Lithuania will have to go through Poland too. So they think, why not just go the shortest distance and also risk messing with one country's law enforcement instead of 3.
As such, the target priority will go Poland>Lithuania>Latvia, and that's what we are seeing now.
If we fortify the border meaningfully better than Lithuania they will likely focus more on Lithuania again then.

There is also a problem with our "liberal" leftist media being as migrant obsessed as the western ones, and in turn the opposition is media guided. They are acting suspiciously exactly like the worst of western establishment parties, because they take their clues from the same media owned by the same companies and parroting the same political line, and beg for their favor too, except even more openly and desperately than the neighbors who do that, being the second rate servants they are.

Even fucking Tusk realized that migrant obsession is going to be PR kryptonite as far as the general public is concerned, but the younger, more western media obeying, more leftist wing of the party overruled him, ensuring that our opposition yet again drifts to the left in politics and down in the polls.

Not everybody, just anybody who will throw them good media coverage or money to buy it.
Also any love for Jews they have is in hope of inviting back a left leaning minority with lots of money to donate for activist media who are going to be the only thing standing between them and a fascist takeover (hahaha) to Poland from the diaspora in the west.
Also potential American NGO monies.

Oil money doesn't grow on trees, and the ones who control the oilfields don't need their services.

Mostly agree,with one exception - some of our leftist would work not for money,but for being called "good european"
I am not sure,what i should think about them - they are traitors,but idealists !
 

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Mostly agree,with one exception - some of our leftist would work not for money,but for being called "good european"
I am not sure,what i should think about them - they are traitors,but idealists !
That's an old trick with politicians. Why ask for money to pay for praise in the media, if they can ask to be paid in praise by media straight away. No money transfer, taxes, campaign contribution limits etc. The praise earned this way is even higher quality because it can be made to look natural, while completely legal and official political ads have to be labelled appropriately.
 

ATP

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That's an old trick with politicians. Why ask for money to pay for praise in the media, if they can ask to be paid in praise by media straight away. No money transfer, taxes, campaign contribution limits etc. The praise earned this way is even higher quality because it can be made to look natural, while completely legal and official political ads have to be labelled appropriately.

How sad.And i wonted to belive,that Poland is ruined by smart egotical psychos who betray us for money and power.
Now,i must see that at least some of them must be simply idiots.
I would fell better betrayed by bunch of Machiavellis.
 

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Ukrainian MoD has revealed recently they used a recently purchased Turkish TB2 UCAV to destroy a Rebel D30 Howitzer that had earlier shelled and injured Ukrainian troops. According to Rebel forces, Rebel held oil facilities were also struck by Ukrainian drones though they also stated no damage was done. Russia has stated the importation of Turkish drones by the Ukrainian military will only destabilize the region further and not contribute to the settling the intra-Ukraine conflict.

 

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Interesting video of one of the Ukrainian TB-2 drones dropping anti-tank grenades on Rebel positions in the Donbass.

 

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President Zelensky states they averted a coup that was planned for the beginning of next month and had the backing of various Ukrainian and Russian nationals, though he did not directly implicate the Russian government as being involved.

 

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I'm pretty sure he is saying "It was TOTALLY not Russia backed. TOTALLY. Why would they?"
 

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It's most likely this is a fake plot, so he can have excuse to eliminate some of his political opponents. After all, he has been very vigorous in crushing any kind of dissent for the last last year or so.
 

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