Russian Invasion of Ukraine 2022

[Omnimercurial]

Technically true, but economically unfeasible due to unacceptable energy invested for energy returned once all externalities are factored in. Same thing for green energy which would actually be more environmentally destructive than just building more coal plants and in return, kill fewer animals. Because wind turbines kill a lot of birds and the solar panel farms disrupted the habitats of numerous endangered species and the heat generated is killing migrating birds. Not to mention the heavy use of coal products to make solar panels and the steel for wind turbines. By contrast the Alaska Pipeline led to a population increase of caribou and a rise in their natural predators. Of course the only real green energy solution is hydroelectric dams which we have grossly underutilized because of environmentalists.

But hey I will stop letting facts get in the way of your delusions.



Russia is reinforcing the Kherson Front to continue the likely push on Odessa and Transnistria.

Delusions huh? How.... Polite.

Energy efficiency issues can be addressed by economy of scale, such as widespread adoption and larger scale facilities.

As to Enviromentalism.... Who gives a fuck.

Kill the Birds.

Enviromentalism is used as an excuse. The populace get pressured to take on financial burdens and recycle despite most sorted waste not being recycled.

It is a pathetic mess.

Environmentalism could be less pathetic it is true, but could is far from that which IS.

 

[Zachowon]

Huh, couldn't even crater the runway.




Spetsnaz...using store bought radios? Well look at that

 

[WolfBear]

That's sort of like saying Reagan wasn't woke, so all that 70s radicalism was just dead in the water. The fact Poland had to radically depower its supreme court because it was overrun with communists suggests the whole institution is still there. All Poland's current situation proves is your at least at the 1980s stage of this, where political power could partially contain it to the universities and courts. Your still probably 1 Blaire or Clinton equivalent away from it all being hard coded into law, at which point the people will morph to conform with the law.

You are aware that the West itself could likewise see a negative reaction to Wokeness, right?

 

[Bacle]

Hannity calling for Russian military to coup Putin. Not really a realistic idea, and probably will only inflame things.

 

[Wargamer08]

Hannity calling for Russian military to coup Putin. Not really a realistic idea, and probably will only inflame things.

Putin is the one of, if not the, single longest sitting head of state. He certainly is among major powers. Barring a massive, cataclysmic military setback he's not getting overthrown. Even if we take all the Ukrainians propaganda at face value, the Russians have taken nowhere near those kind of losses.

 

[Bacle]

Putin is the one of, if not the, single longest sitting head of state. He certainly is among major powers. Barring a massive, cataclysmic military setback he's not getting overthrown. Even if we take all the Ukrainians propaganda at face value, the Russians have taken nowhere near those kind of losses.

I think Putin is waiting to see what happens with China and Taiwan.

 

[Bacle]

So the initial attacks did not crater the runway at one of Ukraine's main airbase's, which is why Ukraine's airforce was able to get airborne.

 

[PsihoKekec]

While in north the Russian advance has slowed, the Ukrainian situation in the south is rather critical , the Donbass front is unravelling, Mauripol is surrounded, with Ukrainian counterattack failing and there is direct connection between Crimea and Donbass. There is another breakthrough at Volnovka, which puts another section of frontline at encirclement risk and these troops would be mopped up swiftly due to the nature of the terrain, but more importantly the advance is following the line of railway, so in matter of days the Russians could control the railway from Donetsk from Orikiv (which they are now contesting), so with railway troops repairing the damaged rail line they could resupply the forces at Zaporozhie by rail. Frontline forces in Lugansk region are also at threat of encirclement, although those will probably be able to hold out a bit longer than troops between Volnovka and Pavlopil.

 

[WolfBear]

While in north the Russian advance has slowed, the Ukrainian situation in the south is rather critical , the Donbass front is unravelling, Mauripol is surrounded, with Ukrainian counterattack failing and there is direct connection between Crimea and Donbass. There is another breakthrough at Volnovka, which puts another section of frontline at encirclement risk and these troops would be mopped up swiftly due to the nature of the terrain, but more importantly the advance is following the line of railway, so in matter of days the Russians could control the railway from Donetsk from Orikiv (which they are now contesting), so with railway troops repairing the damaged rail line they could resupply the forces at Zaporozhie by rail. Frontline forces in Lugansk region are also at threat of encirclement, although those will probably be able to hold out a bit longer than troops between Volnovka and Pavlopil.

What's the possibility of the Ukrainian forces in the Donbass doing a mass retreat, forming a new defensive line further to the west, and giving up the rest of the Donbass to Russia?

 

[Floridaman]

What's the possibility of the Ukrainian forces in the Donbass doing a mass retreat, forming a new defensive line further to the west, and giving up the rest of the Donbass to Russia?

Weren’t the bridges in the south blown over the weekend to try to stop the Russians from crossing the dneiper?

 

[WolfBear]

Weren’t the bridges in the south blown over the weekend to try to stop the Russians from crossing the dneiper?

Possibly. Not sure. I haven't been paying attention to the south quite as closely.

 

[TheRomanSlayer]

Weren’t the bridges in the south blown over the weekend to try to stop the Russians from crossing the dneiper?

Yeah, but was the bridge blown up the one that connects Kyiv to southern Belarus?

 

[Floridaman]

Yeah, but was the bridge blown up the one that connects Kyiv to southern Belarus?

Well the kiev to Belarus area isn’t blocked by water the river starts at Belarus’s eastern border

 

[TheRomanSlayer]

Has the Ukrainian military held on to Dnipro in this case as well?

 

[PsihoKekec]

Weren’t the bridges in the south blown over the weekend to try to stop the Russians from crossing the dneiper?

Which bridges? There were some bridges blown in the Kiev axis and at Henichesk but no bridges over major waterways have been blown up yet.

Has the Ukrainian military held on to Dnipro in this case as well?

They have some reservist and paramilitary forces along with armed civilians, they can still make it an ugly fight, even if forces on Donbass front are destroyed.

 

[Arlos]

Trying to retreat all this way while the enemy has air supremacy is asking for a « Highway of death » scenario, I don’t think those troops can move even if they want to.

 

[PsihoKekec]

They can try a dispersed retreat, there would be casualties, but fewer than if they are destroyed in place. However the Ukrainian high command had showed rather obstinate tendency to demand their troops hold the ground even in face of encirclement in the past.

 

[Agent23]

They can try a dispersed retreat, there would be casualties, but fewer than if they are destroyed in place. However the Ukrainian high command had showed rather obstinate tendency to demand their troops hold the ground even in face of encirclement in the past.

Pretty sure that will lead to two outcomes.
Desertion by those with half a brain.
The more fanatical supporters of the regime making a last stand as they are carpet bombed and Buratino'd out of existence.

 

[PsihoKekec]

No love for Tulypan?

 

[Agent23]

No love for Tulypan?

Tulypan?

Anywyay, BPS doing a stream on the situation in 30 minutes: