Russia-Ukraine War Politics Thread Mk. 2
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Agent23
Ни шагу назад!
Ok, in general I don't post stuff related to the shit happening in my back yard and I do not care that much about the posts here given that a lot of the posters are neocucks, trolls, interested parties with axes to grind with one of the participants, and other rabid NAFO fanboys, and I prefer to stay away from them, however, here is a fun little video that Oleksii Arestovych, once buddies with and advisor to Prez Zelyo Greenshirt, did with a popular bulgarian journo I follow.
First of all, I just love how an Ukrainian nationalist formerly close to the current government has to talk to a bulgarian rightwing/dissident independent journo in Russian, fun irony.
Second, he says that the intelligence and evaluations of the west were total crap, starting from the war in Afghanistan and going through their evaluations of, Russian military strength, Ukrainian military strength, and their ability to do offensives.
Pretty much he says the west fucked them over and is now in the worst position since 1945, and that there should be a new global security framework that takes real account of countries interests.
Says there is a fight between Zelyo and Zalushni and that other general that became prominent, Sirski.
He mentioned Kennan as well, and said that lots of mistakes were made by all sides, including the West but also including Ukraine and Russia, too.
That there is post-soviet corruption and incompetence crippling Ukraine.
He is also pro Ukraine, but does does not want to turn it into the West's anti-Russia and thinks that Orthodox people should not fight each-other.
Also, he says that some 'marginal' and radical groups basically got more notoriety in Ukraine and started making the political situations worse.
And that Ukraine should have kept its nukes.
I enjoyed his comments about how Ukraine sought the help of the Globalists and that fucked it over, because it could not get any rapport with Republicans and the rightwing forces that are taking over in Europe.
Well, that is the bits that were interesting to me, he also parrots a lot of the usual NAFO stuff, like Ukraine's losses being a lot less than what is claimed, how Russia is responsible.
And he also thanked the Bulgarian people for aiding lots of Ukrainians and said there are lots of Bulgarians in Ukraine and that as orthodox people we should have closer relations.
An interesting and colorful personality, and less batshit insane than I thought from some of his previous interviews.
Enjoy!
First of all, I just love how an Ukrainian nationalist formerly close to the current government has to talk to a bulgarian rightwing/dissident independent journo in Russian, fun irony.
Second, he says that the intelligence and evaluations of the west were total crap, starting from the war in Afghanistan and going through their evaluations of, Russian military strength, Ukrainian military strength, and their ability to do offensives.
Pretty much he says the west fucked them over and is now in the worst position since 1945, and that there should be a new global security framework that takes real account of countries interests.
Says there is a fight between Zelyo and Zalushni and that other general that became prominent, Sirski.
He mentioned Kennan as well, and said that lots of mistakes were made by all sides, including the West but also including Ukraine and Russia, too.
That there is post-soviet corruption and incompetence crippling Ukraine.
He is also pro Ukraine, but does does not want to turn it into the West's anti-Russia and thinks that Orthodox people should not fight each-other.
Also, he says that some 'marginal' and radical groups basically got more notoriety in Ukraine and started making the political situations worse.
And that Ukraine should have kept its nukes.
I enjoyed his comments about how Ukraine sought the help of the Globalists and that fucked it over, because it could not get any rapport with Republicans and the rightwing forces that are taking over in Europe.
Well, that is the bits that were interesting to me, he also parrots a lot of the usual NAFO stuff, like Ukraine's losses being a lot less than what is claimed, how Russia is responsible.
And he also thanked the Bulgarian people for aiding lots of Ukrainians and said there are lots of Bulgarians in Ukraine and that as orthodox people we should have closer relations.
An interesting and colorful personality, and less batshit insane than I thought from some of his previous interviews.
Enjoy!
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Ok, in general I don't post stuff related to the shit happening in my back yard and I do not care that much about the posts here given that a lot of the posters are neocucks, trolls, interested parties with axes to grind with one of the participants, and other rabid NAFO fanboys, and I prefer to stay away from them, however, here is a fun little video that Oleksii Arestovych, once buddies with and advisor to Prez Zelyo Greenshirt, did with a popular bulgarian journo I follow.
First of all, I just love how an Ukrainian nationalist formerly close to the current government has to talk to a bulgarian rightwing/dissident independent journo in Russian, fun irony.
Second, he says that the intelligence and evaluations of the west were total crap, starting from the war in Afghanistan and going through their evaluations of, Russian military strength, Ukrainian military strength, and their ability to do offensives.
Pretty much he says the west fucked them over and is now in the worst position since 1945, and that there should be a new global security framework that takes real account of countries interests.
Says there is a fight between Zelyo and Zalushni and that other general that became prominent, Sirski.
He mentioned Kennan as well, and said that lots of mistakes were made by all sides, including the West but also including Ukraine and Russia, too.
That there is post-soviet corruption and incompetence crippling Ukraine.
He is also pro Ukraine, but does does not want to turn it into the West's anti-Russia and thinks that Orthodox people should not fight each-other.
Also, he says that some 'marginal' and radical groups basically got more notoriety in Ukraine and started making the political situations worse.
And that Ukraine should have kept its nukes.
I enjoyed his comments about how Ukraine sought the help of the Globalists and that fucked it over, because it could not get any rapport with Republicans and the rightwing forces that are taking over in Europe.
Well, that is the bits that were interesting to me, he also parrots a lot of the usual NAFO stuff, like Ukraine's losses being a lot less than what is claimed, how Russia is responsible.
And he also thanked the Bulgarian people for aiding lots of Ukrainians and said there are lots of Bulgarians in Ukraine and that as orthodox people we should have closer relations.
An interesting and colorful personality, and less batshit insane than I thought from some of his previous interviews.
Enjoy!
Well,West was mistaken many times,but he do not saw most important thing - Biden from the beginning to not wonted Ukraine victory,only bleed Moscov and made them to change sides in his conflict with China.
And,he is naive as child if he think,that postsoviets are Orthodox people.Only Orthodox people left are Greeks.
Not mention fact,that it is impossible to be anti-russians,becouse russians were wiped out or replaced by soviets.
Of course they are. How else did you think they got so rich? They'd fit in with the robber barons of the 1800s. A lot of the sweatshops have political patrons, it's the old Soviet system but sneakier and instead of black slaves you have brown slaves.
Meanwhile in Russia: I love how fed up this babushka is, she outright states it's the Soviet times again! The election is a play. Castigated young Russians as cowards for allowing it to continue. Revolution!
In Ukraine there has been two days of no bombings after three of Russia's most modern bombers were shot down 50 km inside Crimea by a newly deployed Patriot ADS. All bombing runs have stopped and Russian planes have been removed back to airbases in Russia proper. The schadenfreude is delicious!
Moreso as the Russians just proclaimed victory, conquering Marinka after ten years of fighting. The Soviet Flag Flies above Marinka Once More! While in the background it's a complete wasteland with no buildings left standing their flag set on a crumbling wall of rubble.
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I'm offended on behalf of the child, but I am also amused. Poor kid. At least he enjoyed his birthdayPlease the Greeks are no where near your guys true boss battle thats the turks.
As a comparison.
The greeks as a bulgarian enemy.
The turks as a bulgarian enemy.
You may be interested in reading Trump's latest filing. In which he admits to asking for and receiving Russian aid. Who the hell uses an act of treason to defend himself from charges of inciting treason!? Jesus he needs to dig into his bank accounts in Switzerland and hire real lawyers. Only an imbecile would allow a client to incriminate himself further.
You are bulgarian and Orthodox - but how many go to church there? and,is it real church,or KGB,like in Moscov?
Soviets are no longer orthodox,becouse their Orthodox Church is part of KGB from at least 80 years.
If at least 20% people in Bulgary go to Church,and it is not run by KGB,then you are still Orthodox nation.
I want to see sources and links, because this sounds exactly like the lies put out in the Steele Dossier, which was already proven to be a fabrication made for/by an opposition research firm in the UK.
Typhonis
Well-known member
About the last time Joe Biden said something that made sense without a teleprompter.
Buba
A total creep
Akshualy, it is time to reconsider UN's existence ...
I mean I'm open to that too.
> Actually thinking the UN has power
> Believing that the UN would or even could kick out Russia when they didn't kick out the USSR
Again, you show complete ignorance about how the world works.
The actual correct take.
Compared to someone who thinks 'taxes are theft', and thinks Ukraine should just give away it's land to Russia in exchange for 'peace' (because we can so trust Russia won't try again later in your view), yes, I do think I have a more accurate and less ideologically biased view of history and human society than you do.
"More accurate view"
You don't understand what the UN is or how it works:
> Russia can be kicked off of the security council.
You don't understand that Japan isn't capable of invading the Kurils, and that doing so would be a bad idea.
You still think that Ukraine can win outright, which is the funniest belief, if that belief hadn't contributed to tens of thousands of dead.
It's also cute how you constantly chop off parts of my ideas so that they sound worse, because you only are fit to debate strawmen. For example, the Ukraine option was dependent on Ukraine joining NATO, preventing another invasion. But you didn't like that my idea made sense and didn't lust for blood, so you decided to leave that out.
No, I just understand that, per Zelensky himself, NATO membership isn't on the table.
EU membership may be on the table, but not NATO, so I didn't feel like addressing a mooted point.
You may want to actually try to keep up with the news out of Ukraine so you don't make arguments already mooted by recent events.
The only reason Zelensky doesn't consider NATO membership as available is because he can't get it.
No, if you cared about impossibilities, you'd not claim Japan should invade the Kurils, or that Ukraine can take back the Donbass.
You just wanted to mischaracterize my point as badly as was possible.