Russia-Ukraine War Politics Thread Mk. 2

What Russia? it dead 100 years ago,murdered by soviets.
And postsoviet KGB elites are made from maybe 1000 dudes who care only about keeping power.
Sure,they would prefer to take Ukraine,but if theu must choose between ruling as China vassals,or die,then what do you think they choose? death? they never belived in anytching except their sacred right to be top dogs.

If China agree to keep them as overlords,they would not fight.
Ok, sure. They exterminated Russia 100 years ago.
What are we supposed to call the successor state that sprang up from its ashes?
I propose Russia 2.0.
Then we can shorten it to Russia for short in casual conversation, but we all know we mean the successor state.
 
African civilization outside of Eithopia is a young one, europeans were much the same when they were starting out.

Actually, no. No, they were not.
They had larger brains, for one thing. Large than the European norm of today, let alone the African norm.

Lol what? No the tribes have existed for a long time. Unless you mean civilization in the sense of being civilized instead of the culture or norms of a people, African cultures are not young.

Indeed. It's not like black people were decanted from a vat 200 years ago or something. Their ancestry goes back to Noah like everyone else's,

Egypt would like a word.

I know most consider Egypt it's own thing, not truly 'Africa', however pretty much no one else has the continuity of civilization that the Egyptians do, even with the different rulers they've had over time.

Egypt is Semitic, not Sub-Saharan African. People who claim the Egyptian Old Kingdom as an "African" (ie Negro) civilization are blowing bubbles just as much as the people try to claim the Phonecian colony of Carthage as one.
Even the Ethiopians are descended from peoples who earlier lived to the north of there.

True enough First christianed polish ruler /Mieszko/ and his son/Bolesław/ were dudes which ancestors conqered nearby tribes,and had no problems with selling some to jewish slavers like Ibrahim ibn Jakub.

In fact,their standing army existed only thanks to that.

Exactly like african warlords in 19th century.....

Treating conquered peoples as slaves was something that all the ancient civilizations took for granted (Rome, for example) right up until the 18th century. That was when the Abolitionists first showed up. How we now regard the whole concept is a measure of their success.
 
Lol what? No the tribes have existed for a long time. Unless you mean civilization in the sense of being civilized instead of the culture or norms of a people, African cultures are not young.
Indeed. It's not like black people were decanted from a vat 200 years ago or something. Their ancestry goes back to Noah like everyone else's,
Civiliation literally means "cities and farming" by definition.
Nomadic tribes of hunter gatherers are by definition not a civilization. They have culture, not a civilization.

However, there were in fact countries with cities and farming in africa. Yes, some places had wandering tribes of hunter gatherers. But other places had actual civilization
 
Actually, no. No, they were not.
They had larger brains, for one thing. Large than the European norm of today, let alone the African norm.
And all of them had smaller brains than our true natural superiors, the sperm whale.
Indeed. It's not like black people were decanted from a vat 200 years ago or something. Their ancestry goes back to Noah like everyone else's,
Makes it pretty hard to take your understanding of science seriously when you reference a physically impossible fairytale completely lacking evidence.
Egypt is Semitic, not Sub-Saharan African. People who claim the Egyptian Old Kingdom as an "African" (ie Negro) civilization are blowing bubbles just as much as the people try to claim the Phonecian colony of Carthage as one.
Even the Ethiopians are descended from peoples who earlier lived to the north of there.
Egypt is in Africa. Ergo, it's an African civilisation. Some people just like to play word games to justify their own (Usually awful.) personal delusions.
 
Ok, sure. They exterminated Russia 100 years ago.
What are we supposed to call the successor state that sprang up from its ashes?
I propose Russia 2.0.
Then we can shorten it to Russia for short in casual conversation, but we all know we mean the successor state.

ATP seems to be equating that country with it's old aristocrat ruling class.
Lots and lots of the ordinary Russian people died under Communism, but enough survived that we can still talk of Russia and Russians.


Civiliation literally means "cities and farming" by definition.
Nomadic tribes of hunter gatherers are by definition not a civilization. They have culture, not a civilization.

However, there were in fact countries with cities and farming in africa. Yes, some places had wandering tribes of hunter gatherers. But other places had actual civilization

They certainly had - and have - seasonal farming. And settled villages. "Cities" might be pushing it. But no, they were not lawless hyper-individualists. A Bantu tribe has a chief, and laws and customs, and so on.
Makes it pretty hard to take your understanding of science seriously when you reference a physically impossible fairytale completely lacking evidence.

Are you triggered, bro?
 
Egypt is Semitic, not Sub-Saharan African. People who claim the Egyptian Old Kingdom as an "African" (ie Negro) civilization are blowing bubbles just as much as the people try to claim the Phonecian colony of Carthage as one.
Even the Ethiopians are descended from peoples who earlier lived to the north of there.
There's this huge debate as to whether Ancient Egyptians were even Black, they may have been White/Hellenistic, but the bottom line is nobody really knows, Egypt is EXTREMELY against being lumped in with the rest of Africa it seems


Although to be relevant and somewhat on topic, the U.S. Pentagon is looking at Egypt along with two other countries that may be leaning more pro-Russian in the conflict


One of these three countries will stab the US in the back for Russia, mark my words
 
This sounds like war propaganda.
There would be no point to the Russians doing this, but it sure makes them sound evil bad.
1: Strongman mentality. It makes them look strong and induces fear.

2: They use the same tactics to discipline their own troops.

3: It contributes to their policy of extermination of the Ukrainian ethnic group. Straight out of Stalin's playbook, and the Tzars before him. Interestingly enough also a widespread practice for eugenics proponents in the late 19th, early 20th Century. They even practiced forced sterilization in the USA for ethnic minorites and Whites with disabilities.
 


Russia has been castrating some of the POW's they've returned, and been doing so for a while it seems.

> We didn't report it then because it would add to the trauma

Bull fucking shit. especially considering times reported the proven to be false claims that russia is issuing viagra rations to its troops to promote rape.
Also its the fucking times, everything they say is a lie by default
 
Again there was a video. And soldiers have tortured pows before. We’ll the Russians will get what they deserve.
 

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