Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Politics Thread Mk. 2

AmosTrask

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There are good odds the drone attack may have been a Wagner false flag to throw shade on the Russian MoD, though Ukraine could have also done it via the Free Russia groups who have raided across the border.
True. But I cannot forget that Russia bombed itself and planted Chechen corpses in the ruins to justify the invasion of Chechnya. They attacked their own border units with FSB in Georgian gear to invade Georgia. They carried out multiple "Ukrainian" attacks on Russian to justify 2014. After 30 years in Eastern Europe I've learned when it come to Russia. Russians are arseholes out to rape and pillage their neighbors. Russians born and raised in Moscow and St Petersburg are the most delusional and most likely to have Superiority Complexes.
 

ATP

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Maybe @ATP is right and Putin is good for the west?
He is good for entire world.USA deep state wonted deal with him over Ukraine and probable Poaland body,but he refused it.
As long as he live,soviets would not ally with american deep state.

So,long live comrade colonel !
 

Bacle

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The Kerch is looking a bit worn down; wonder how many kg's of explosive would be needed to make those cracks in the pilings much larger.
 

AmosTrask

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The Kerch is looking a bit worn down; wonder how many kg's of explosive would be needed to make those cracks in the pilings much larger.

Of course it is Putin's shell company built it. But a quarter of the budget was pocketed, they subcontracted to the cheapest bidders for materials and labor.
 

King Arts

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Of course it is Putin's shell company built it. But a quarter of the budget was pocketed, they subcontracted to the cheapest bidders for materials and labor.
What? They used a private company? Doesn’t russia have an army corps of engineers?
 

King Arts

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To my knowledge, it's not what one would charitably call 'professional' at this point.
Yes I know they aren’t as good as 1st world western army engineers. But I still would expect them to have something they don’t use feudal levies.

Though with the damage the war gave them I won’t be surprised if in the future they do.
 

Husky_Khan

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What? They used a private company? Doesn’t russia have an army corps of engineers?

They do have an equivalent. There's a deployment of them at the Zaporozhye Nuclear Power Plant and all along the border helping remove unexploded ordinance launched at peaceful Russian territory by UkroNazi Separatists so they're probably busy to deal with any fixes at the moment that Russian "private enterprise" might've overlooked in the initial construction.
 

Tiamat

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My questions in regards to that bridge would be: How prevalent are these cracks in the supports along the span of the bridge. What was the actual quality of the cement used, IE was it that cheap stuff with a rather high grade of sand mixed in? What about the rebars, were they all properly installed as the cement was poured in, and are they actual wrought iron or some cheaper material. And last but not least, they apparently did some rather fast repair work on that bridge after it went boom last time...how expert or how shoddily was it done?


NOTE: As Darth Putin says he is indeed a MASTER STRATEGIST, I too am a MASTER ARCHITECT (which really means I'm not.)



EDIT: Perhaps this better sums it up....




ANOTHER EDIT, AND DISCLAIMER: There is of course a chance this is photoshopped. One can't believe everything they see on the internet, after all. But if true, I'm hearing if these are indeed actual cracks in the foundations, it means there were smaller cracks in the concrete by way of which salt water could have seeped in and caused the steel rebars to rust and swell, cracking the concrete.
 
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Terthna

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the problem is that wars only unite america for a short period of time, we would infact still have all of the same internal issues only we would exit the war with less material, would lose good people have less money and all of those issues would have festered.

Fact is america has put off dealing with its interanal bullshit to deal with external threats for too long we need to clean up our own house.
Would it even unite us though? Because I sure as hell wouldn't "support the war effort" by giving people who want me dead more power, and I doubt I'm the only one. A war with Russia would likely turn into a war on two fronts in short order, with one of those fronts being at home against other Americans.
 

Zachowon

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Would it even unite us though? Because I sure as hell wouldn't "support the war effort" by giving people who want me dead more power, and I doubt I'm the only one. A war with Russia would likely turn into a war on two fronts in short order, with one of those fronts being at home against other Americans.
So...you are perfectly fine letting someone that actually wants us to be dead more so then the left gladly attack us?
Damn, guess we should just let the world take over
 

Tiamat

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Would it even unite us though? Because I sure as hell wouldn't "support the war effort" by giving people who want me dead more power, and I doubt I'm the only one. A war with Russia would likely turn into a war on two fronts in short order, with one of those fronts being at home against other Americans.

Terthna...who are these people who want you dead, exactly??
 

Tiamat

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@Terthna, if you are truly that worried about your personal safety, I strongly recommend you get acquainted with local law enforcement in your area, start reading on all laws concerning self-defense in your area, read up on self defense and take self defense courses, take a good hard look at purchasing firearms for self defense and decide what you want, and purchase them, and last but certainly not least, apply for a CCW (Concealed Carry Permit) and be sure to know EXACTLY what all laws concerning self defense with yourself and home is. Also, if you do apply for CCW, consider insurance through the USCCA.

If nothing else, it will hopefully let you sleep better.
 

Zachowon

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@Terthna, if you are truly that worried about your personal safety, I strongly recommend you get acquainted with local law enforcement in your area, start reading on all laws concerning self-defense in your area, read up on self defense and take self defense courses, take a good hard look at purchasing firearms for self defense and decide what you want, and purchase them, and last but certainly not least, apply for a CCW (Concealed Carry Permit) and be sure to know EXACTLY what all laws concerning self defense with yourself and home is. Also, if you do apply for CCW, consider insurance through the USCCA.

If nothing else, it will hopefully let you sleep better.
But you see, LEOs are the reason he is scared because they serve the law makers and they are the ones who will use the law to go after him
 

Marduk

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Between the Russians and the Democrats, which one has already shown the desire to kill American civilians in CONUS?
If you watch what's being said on media at home and abroad? BOTH.
My point exactly.
This isn't a Disney plot for children. There is no Big Bad and Big Good so that their poor child brains don't have to strain themselves trying to think of relations between 50 different factions like in a Paradox grand strategy. Just because one group wants to fuck you over doesn't mean there aren't a dozen different national and international groups trying to do different flavors of the same, nor that if one is in some way against one of the factions that hate you doesn't necessarily mean they aren't your enemies too (see: commies and islamists for simple example).
 

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