Russia-Ukraine War Politics Thread Mk. 2
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The Pskov drone attack destroyed six IL-76 Heavy transport planes. The Russians just lost half of their functioning IL fleet. This is the plane they usually use for their Spetnaz and Paratrooper units. They still have some AN-124 but they are running on outdated 1980's Soviet electronics and flight computers. They can't make more because both the Antonov and Ilyushin aircraft were all designed and produced in Ukraine. Both plants were damaged in the first invasion and mostly destroyed in the second invasion.
Edit: by half I meant of the twelve Ilyushin that were modernized and overhauled with Western technology.
Edit: by half I meant of the twelve Ilyushin that were modernized and overhauled with Western technology.
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No they didn't; they still have an ongoing production order for these and the fleet is close to 100, and that's without factoring in the one's sold abroad.
This hurts, no doubt, but lets not try to exaggerate in such an absurd fashion out of desire to support Ukraine's effort against Russian domestic military targets.
The Tu22 hit in the raid matters more, due to be a missile carrier.
100 in various stages of maintenance. It'll be a while to get the rest ready. Half are in desperate need of repairs and avionics, avionics the Russians no longer produce and are having trouble replacing. They've been ordering Taiwanese and Western before the sanctions. The mothballed electronics plant was stripped by the oligarchs and metal thieves in the mid 90s. The concrete has rotted in the old plants that were not demolished. It'll take money and resources to build new ones.
Russia is so hard up for air defense around Moscow and the other parts of western Russia, that they are pulling S-300 units out of the Kuril's.
If Japan ever wanted to make an attempt to remove Russia from what is rightfully Japanese land, they may have a good window to do it in the future, if the defenses around the islands keep getting sapped to keep Russia's wasteful invasion of Ukraine going.
The eastern divisions have already been transferred west. There are only a quarter of the usual garrison in the East. This would be a good time to strike if Japan decided to do so.
Japan will wait until Russias even weaker
Yikes. The Russians just lost more expensive equipment in last night's drone attacks .
2 Tu-22M3
1 S-400
1 Predel E over the horizon coastal defense radar
4 IL-76
Even in US military budget terms 3 billion USD is expensive. I can just picture a military accountant somewhere with his ass clenching at that number. For Russia that's 3.5% of the yearly military budget. Thirty percent of which gets siphoned by corruption according to publicized pre-Invasion Russian Duma anti-corruption taskforce reports.
2 Tu-22M3
1 S-400
1 Predel E over the horizon coastal defense radar
4 IL-76
Even in US military budget terms 3 billion USD is expensive. I can just picture a military accountant somewhere with his ass clenching at that number. For Russia that's 3.5% of the yearly military budget. Thirty percent of which gets siphoned by corruption according to publicized pre-Invasion Russian Duma anti-corruption taskforce reports.
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The equipment losses are something yes but not nearly enough, hopefully Ukraine can mission kill the Russian black sea fleet that...honestly wouldn't be enough to make the russians quit but it would do a lot to defang them as a threat.
Girkin has announced his candidacy for President of Russia in next years election, despite being in prison for 'discrediting the Russian military'.
I guess after watching Prigozhin eat a SAM for his failed coup attempt, Girkin figured his main enemy is gone and now he can try to play the domestic political game by trying to say 'Putin has been to nice/his general suck' and Prigo isn't around to toss shit on him from the 'front line' anymore.
mrttao
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> Drone attack on romania
> Well ok not really an attack.
> drone lost control, crossed romania border, then crashed in the wilderness hurting nobody
what a nothingburger.
AnimalNoodles
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no one is gonna article 5 over a single drone accident.
mrttao
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did... did that man go to sleep with a phone?
mrttao
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This looks staged as all hell. they are just ... standing there.
conscription officers would have dragged him out of bed, not waited for him to wake up and then let him grab a phone and start filming as they just stand there.
And he is just staying in the bed itself instead of standing up properly
We have all seen the videos of police misconduct in the usa and uk. it is always bystanders filming and the police are often actively trying to stop them as they physically restrain and or drag the person around.
If a woman was filming her male relative being dragged away it would have been far more realistic.
IIRC way back in the day someone posted such a video here.
The UN being useless again.
Also, good line here "we don't have a choice between victory and capitulation. We have a choice between winning and extinction."
For Ukraine this is a war that will end either in 'victory or extinction' in the words of their own people.
If some one does not support aiding Ukraine against Russia, they support what Ukrainian's see as their extinction as a people.