Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

[SchrodingersWehraboo]

 

[prinCZess]

Not sure of the relevance or why Posobiec's super-Trump crew are expected to be annoyed with the dude?
Zelensky did about as much defense of Trump as a foreign leader would be expected to--contradicting the allegations made and saying it was 'a great phone call'.

Ukraine president backs Trump, says no pressure on Biden probe

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, during a meeting in New York with President Trump, told reporters Wednesday that he was not pressured to investigate the Biden family during their now-controversial phone call over the summer.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Zachowon]

So Zelensky was willing to do it WOTHOUT being forced to?

 

[The Original Sixth]

So Zelensky was willing to do it WOTHOUT being forced to?

Well, he had promised to uproot corruption.

 

[Marnuplee]

Bloomberg predicts Russian export earnings to be 30% higher than 2021.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-321-billion-windfall-if-oil-gas-keep-flowing

 

[Agent23]

Bloomberg predicts Russian export earnings to be 30% higher than 2021.

Putin May Collect $321 Billion Windfall If Oil and Gas Keep Flowing

😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

Some people are learning that:
1) The world is not the west.
2) Even in the west it is extremely hard to find alternatives to particular Russian exports.

Well, he had promised to uproot corruption.

I assume this is Zelenski or rather, Elenski since we are banning the letter Z that you are referring to?
He is worth over half a billion USD, and the Paradise Papers found links between him and Oligarchs.

Now, let us go to the allegedly Euro-skeptic, anti-regulation, pro-freedom Poland:
Poland urges EU to tax Russian oil and gas
Our favorite so called freedom fighters have no problem demanding that other people's economic freedom and national sovereignty gets violated in the name of their harebrained schemes and petty vengeance fantasies.
Fucking hypocrites.
I propose they get counter-sanctioned because the "hate the gae and migrants and brown people"
Put a rainbow tax on all their exports. 😂

Humor aside, I am pretty sure that after all of this is done, the western part of the EU will do everything it its power to punish Poland for helping cause much of this mess.

 

[Zachowon]

Well, he had promised to uproot corruption.

Huh.
But totally a Biden puppet

 

[SchrodingersWehraboo]

Relevant:

 

[Abhorsen]

Russian execution of Ukrainians in Bucha:

Spoiler: Graphic picture of executed Ukrainians

One of the pictures had hands tied behind their back. This is a clear war crime. It goes along with the mass movement of people out of Ukraine. At this point according to Russia, they've moved about 440k Ukrainians into Russia 'for humanitarian purposes'. Basically doing there old move-em to Siberia deal, just not moving them all the way there. This is the one major solution to stop an insurgency: genocide.

 

[Cherico]

Russian execution of Ukrainians in Bucha:

Spoiler: Graphic picture of executed Ukrainians

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One of the pictures had hands tied behind their back. This is a clear war crime. It goes along with the mass movement of people out of Ukraine. At this point according to Russia, they've moved about 440k Ukrainians into Russia 'for humanitarian purposes'. Basically doing there old move-em to Siberia deal, just not moving them all the way there. This is the one major solution to stop an insurgency: genocide.

this isnt the first time russians have genocided Ukraninans either.

 

[Agent23]

Russian execution of Ukrainians in Bucha:

Spoiler: Graphic picture of executed Ukrainians

View attachment 1265

One of the pictures had hands tied behind their back. This is a clear war crime.

Yeah, as I said before my post was yanked off to DumbAss, the whole situation in that village smells of more Ghost of... style propaganda.

It goes along with the mass movement of people out of Ukraine. At this point according to Russia, they've moved about 440k Ukrainians into Russia 'for humanitarian purposes'. Basically doing there old move-em to Siberia deal, just not moving them all the way there. This is the one major solution to stop an insurgency: genocide.

Humm, how so, Russia opened humanitarian corridors to let refugees pass, and you usually move refugees to the nearest safe country, e.g. Russia.

Got any proof of them being mistreated or held in Russia against their will?

Because from what I see from Patrick Lancaster and some other channels they are not being mistreated or forcibly kept in GULAGs.

 

[Marduk]

Humm, how so, Russia opened humanitarian corridors to let refugees pass, and you usually move refugees to the nearest safe country, e.g. Russia.

Deportation | How does law protect in war? - Online casebook

casebook.icrc.org

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Under the Fourth Geneva Convention, it is prohibited to remove or to carry out individual or mass forcible transfers of protected persons from the occupied territory to the territory of the Occupying Power or to that of any other country, regardless of the motive for such removal/transfer.

Deportation of Ukrainian Civilians to Russia: The Legal Framework - Lieber Institute West Point

The international humanitarian law prohibition on deporting individuals in armed conflict is long-standing.

lieber.westpoint.edu

This article elaborates the international law questions much deeper. Conclusion point:

However, even if the alleged deportations of Ukrainian nationals were for their own safety or reasons of imperative military necessity, Article 49 makes it clear that movement into Russia would be unlawful unless it is impossible to move them elsewhere in the occupied area, or just facilitate their safe evacuation into unoccupied Ukrainian territory. And the claim that children are being deported begs the question of whether they are being separated from their families involuntarily in violation of the obligation not to do so.

Because from what I see from Patrick Lancaster and some other channels they are not being mistreated or forcibly kept in GULAGs.

Lol tier argument...
How many pro-CCP journalists get arrested or deported from China?
Does that mean China is totally all about freedom of speech?
Why would they kick out someone who willingly shills their propaganda?
Beats having to pay for someone to do that...

 

[Agent23]

Lol tier argument...
How many pro-CCP journalists get arrested or deported from China?
Does that mean China is totally all about freedom of speech?
Why would they kick out someone who willingly shills their propaganda?
Beats having to pay for someone to do that...

Reeeee!!!!

Background Note on the Safe Country Concept and Refugee Status
The Safe Country Concept


3. Simply put, the term “safe country” has been applied, in the refugee context, to countries which are determined either as being non-refugee-producing countries or as being countries in which refugees can enjoy asylum without any danger. Clearly, therefore, the concept of “safe country” is applicable in two situations which give rise to separate sets of considerations: i.e. in the context of A) Safe Country of Origin and B) Safe Country of Asylum. Each situation is examined separately below.

Doctors without borders | The Practical Guide to Humanitarian Law

guide-humanitarian-law.org

Exceptions to the Rule

Military evacuation is possible under strictly limited conditions. These conditions must be interpreted restrictively: the commentaries written on the Additional Protocols to the Geneva Conventions explain that the evacuation of populations may never be used as a combat strategy and may never be carried out simply because of its practical efficiency in attaining a military objective. The term imperative military reason (discussed later) assumes that no military alternative to evacuation exists.

The circumstances in which military evacuations are allowed are the following (GCIV Art. 49):

• The evacuation of a given area is possible if the safety of the population or imperative military reasons require it.
• Such evacuations must be temporary. Persons thus evacuated must be transferred back to their homes as soon as hostilities in the area in question have ceased.
• Such evacuations may not involve the displacement of protected persons outside the bounds of the occupied territory, except when it is impossible to avoid such displacement for material reasons.
• Such evacuations must be carried out with respect for the interests of the civilian population. They may not be evacuated to a region that is exposed to the dangers of war; the authorities undertaking these evacuations must ensure that the individuals are received in proper accommodation and are transported in satisfactory conditions of hygiene, health, safety, and nutrition; and family members must not be separated.
• The protecting power or its substitute, the ICRC, must be informed of any evacuations as soon as they have taken place.

These do not look like GULAGs to me, but they are probably overloaded, and some of the refugees will have to be rerouted to the closest safe country, AKA Russia.

 

[Marduk]

Reeeee!!!!

These do not look like GULAGs to me, but they are probably overloaded, and some of the refugees will have to be rerouted to the closest safe country, AKA Russia.

Great job missing the whole fucking point, just link some shill's videos instead.
Also linking not very relevant refugee convention definition of safe country, as opposed to the Geneva Convention law of war ones that are most relevant here, fail more.
If they are being made to leave Ukraine even if they would prefer a corridor to Ukrainian territory (which obviously isn't impossible as some of those were arranged) its illegal even if they were settled in fucking palaces.

 

[Agent23]

Great job missing the whole fucking point, just link some shill's videos instead.
If they are being made to leave Ukraine even if they would prefer a corridor to Ukrainian territory (which obviously isn't impossible as some of those were arranged) its illegal even if they were settled in fucking palaces.

Considering that your favorite nazi thugs of Azov love to shoot at those convoys then the Military Evacuation prerequisites as per the second quoted link I provided are in effect.

 

[Marduk]

Considering that your favorite nazi thugs of Azov love to shoot at those convoys

Source: Russian shills.

Red Cross says Russia barring evacuation buses and aid for Mariupol, seizing food

Russian forces seized 14 tons of food and medical supplies bound for Mariupol, according to Ukrainian Deputy Prime Minister Iryna Vereshchuk.

nypost.com

Go to a serious source like Red Cross and they say no word about Azov stopping them, just Russia.

 

[Agent23]

Source: Russian shills.

Says the guy who fellates the US deep state, the garbage MSM, and Elenski's paid trolls and fake manufacturers.

You must be a real fucking masochist to go down on them so hard despite the fact that they'd gladly unperson you for being to the right of Stalin.

 

[Marduk]

Says the guy who fellates the US deep state, the garbage MSM, and Elenski's paid trolls and fake manufacturers.

Fuck off and fellate whoever you want, told you to keep your sexual fantasies in NSFW forums.

You must be a real fucking masochist to go down on them so hard despite the fact that they'd gladly unperson you for being to the right of Stalin.

Meanwhile in reality:

Russia to host 'First International Antifascist Conference' to fight Nazism

Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov made similar statements on Tuesday at the United Nations Human Rights Council meeting. As he began to speak, many other member nations' representatives left the room.

thepostmillennial.com

Le based right wing dictator organizes a...
Right wing nationalist conference, right?
No, a fucking antifascist conference!

Russia wants to host anti-fascist forum as it bombs Ukraine

Russia's defence minister announced plans for the conference on the same day that Russian forces hit a Holocaust memorial during airstrikes on the Ukrainian capital, Kyiv.

english.alaraby.co.uk

The UAE, Saudi Arabia, China, Pakistan, Azerbaijan, Uzbekistan, India and Ethiopia - whose rulers have been accused of committing grave human rights violations - are among the countries invited to the event.

Such right wing company...
Must be very awkward for the CCP representatives to show up at such a right wing meeting.

 

[Agent23]

Fuck off and fellate whoever you want, told you to keep your sexual fantasies in NSFW forums.

I am sorry, would you prefer slurping or gobbling down, maybe snorting up?
Maybe bootlicking?

Changes in semantics will not change what you do.

Meanwhile in reality:

Russia to host 'First International Antifascist Conference' to fight Nazism

Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov made similar statements on Tuesday at the United Nations Human Rights Council meeting. As he began to speak, many other member nations' representatives left the room.

thepostmillennial.com

Le based right wing dictator organizes a...
Right wing nationalist conference, right?
No, a fucking antifascist conference!

Nice attempt at digging out months-old news to try and distract from the actual subject at hand with empty gibberish.
Azov are nazi larpers, they murdered 16 000 people, mostly civilians in Donbass, they are animals and they need to be put down like animals.

Also, I am not having this idiotic discussion with you, oh broken record.

 

[Marduk]

Nice attempt at digging out months-old news to try and distract from the actual subject at hand with empty gibberish.

>months old
Literally 1 month old you kek.

Azov are nazi larpers, they murdered 16 000 people, mostly civilians in Donbass, they are animals and they need to be put down like animals.

Also, I am not having this idiotic discussion with you, oh broken record.

Great job regurgitating the Kremlin line comrade.
Congratulations on sharing the same position as bloody red Jacobin Magazine.
Also must be nice to have videos to share coming straight from professional, trustworthy and neutral source like... the FSB's very own press service!

Ukrainian refugee ‘interview’ about Azov atrocities was shot by the FSB. State media ordered to omit the source

Russian state media are running a video interview with a refugee from war-torn Mariupol in Ukraine who describes the atr...

zona.media

No wonder they aren't kicking out your favorite shill, consider how much money he saves the FSB budget, which has to pay for the rest of repeating of the same talking points.