Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

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Do you think that Ukraine would have the support it does if it didn't ingage in some serious corrupt shit?

I mean yeah their bad guys but trying to be a decent guy doesn't get Biden and the left to care about you. Bribes and incriminating evidence is what gets them to care about you.

Of course not.

But I don't think we should care about that entire region.

It's all a Chinese psyop any way.
 
Where are these human trafficking accusations coming from?
According to any official data, Ukraine is not doing badly for a shitpoor country in Eastern Europe when it comes to limiting human trafficking.
Russia and its allies are in fact on a higher tier in that:

Imagine trusting the US Government..
 
Yeah, you're defending a guy who trafficks children for profit.

You have absolutely zero moral ground to stand on.

Cool stuff, can't wait to see what you'll make up next.

In order to save my extended family! I want them to be incinerated in nuclear hellfire!

I think this is actually worse than you defending a globalist pimp.

There's a special place in hell for those who betray their own kind for dopamine my friend
No need for nuclear fire, I would be satisfied by flooding Ukraine with a shitload of weapons in amounts that would dent the tectonic plate on which Ukraine stands. Assassinating Putin would also be a prudent move. After that, depending on who comes to power and whether he'd still have delusions of Russian grandeur, relations with Russia can slowly resume, Russia can finally be lifted from poverty, maybe even form a coalition with the west against China.

None of this can happen without drastically altering Russian culture though. Some people complain about American exceptionalism, but that's NOTHING compared to the country that literally has the phrase "our holy superpower" and "great glory is [Russia's] legacy for eternity" in its national anthem. That country is demented and sick to its rotten core.

Alas, it's unrealistic to expect that rotten country to change, or to go directly against it without risking a nuclear war, but one can still hope. Sanctions are an excellent start, and I hope to see more drastic measures in the future.

And Russians are not and have never been my kind, I'm Israeli. My "friend".
 
Cool stuff, can't wait to see what you'll make up next.

You keep saying this while being routinely proven to be little more than a stooge willing to swallow whatever lies the cabal feeds you.



And Russians are not and have never been my kind, I'm Israeli. My "friend".

Saying you have Russian relatives then wishing for their death is blood treason my dude.
 
You keep saying this while being routinely proven to be little more than a stooge willing to swallow whatever lies the cabal feeds you.
"Routinely proven" :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: the Zelensky bit was a much more interesting fantasy than this, but this one is funnier!


Saying you have Russian relatives then wishing for their death is blood treason my dude.
I do not wish for their deaths, my enemy. But I definitely do wish for their rogue country to be brought to its knees. If it impacts them financially, so be it. Better they have a hard time than Ukrainians (and potentially many others in the future) lose their lives for one loser's delusions of grandeur. I wish them and the Russian people (at least the ones who don't dream of empire-building) well, but Putin and his lackeys can get fucked.
 
Imagine trusting the US Government..
Independent organizations also seem to agree with it.
Russia number one!
Are there any serious sources confirming your thesis, or is it just rumors overheard from some Russia fanboys on the chans?
Or is it yet another case of Russian propaganda accusing others of the problems they know too well from their own backyard.
 
"Routinely proven" :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: the Zelensky bit was a much more interesting fantasy than this, but this one is funnier!

Hows the VAIDs situation in Israel? As bad as it is in South Koreaa? You mindlessly obey the elites


I do not wish for their deaths, my enemy. But I definitely do wish for their rogue country to be brought to its knees. If it impacts them financially, so be it. Better they have a hard time than Ukrainians (and potentially many others in the future) lose their lives for one loser's delusions of grandeur. I wish them and the Russian people (at least the ones who don't dream of empire-building) well, but Putin and his lackeys can get fucked.

"Better that my kin die or starve than others suffer".

Straight up demonic.

Independent organizations also seem to agree with it.
Russia number one!
Are there any serious sources confirming your thesis, or is it just rumors overheard from some Russia fanboys on the chans?
Or is it yet another case of Russian propaganda accusing others of the problems they know too well from their own backyard.

Those aren't independent sources.

Those are part of the international problem and thus nonsense.

@TerrificWarden Stop pussyfooting around mr. single post account. Either lurk, or participate. What's with this half-assed react-but-never-post crap?

Maybe he's afraid of a repeat of 2020 where you guys teamed up with some shit mods and decided to brigade and lynch users who rocked the establishment boat using any little thing as an excuse.

Face it, tide of public opinion is turning on this blatant attempt to manufacture a world War to bury rapidly growing global dissent.

Seethe more, won't change the tide.
 
So Harvard is bad, some Indian university is bad, what source do you think is independent, fucking Kremlin itself?

Nah fuck the Kremlin what part of I view eastern Europeans as beastmen didn't you understand?

You really can't just make this a "hurr durr" Russian agent thing given how much I shit on them :ROFLMAO:

My stance is "fuck all of Eastern Europe, it doesn't matter."
 
Hows the VAIDs situation in Israel? As bad as it is in South Koreaa? You mindlessly obey the elites

:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

Let me guess, the moon is a hologram and the earth is flat right?

"Better that my kin die or starve than others suffer".

Straight up demonic.

K.

Those aren't independent sources.

Those are part of the international problem and thus nonsense.

As opposed to, presumably, some shady conspiracy sites.

Maybe he's afraid of a repeat of 2020 where you guys teamed up with some shit mods and decided to brigade and lynch users who rocked the establishment boat using any little thing as an excuse.

To be honest I wouldn't mind a repeat of that. Clearly this place needs some cleaning-up. I didn't leave woke left SB just to step into a Nazi alt-right Sietch, I want this place to NOT become what our enemies accuse us of being.

Face it, tide of public opinion is turning on this blatant attempt to manufacture a world War to bury rapidly growing global dissent.

Why would any of us "face" what is blatantly untrue? Virtually nobody but a very few weirdos are on Russia's side at the moment.

Seethe more, won't change the tide.

I'll just chuck it up to deranged fantasy #5.
 

I mean it's not like multiple governments had to admit this recently or anything.


To be honest I wouldn't mind a repeat of that. Clearly this place needs some cleaning-up. I didn't leave woke left SB just to step into a Nazi alt-right Sietch, I want this place to NOT become what our enemies accuse us of being.

"Everyone who challenges the comfortable narrative that let's me get high off dopamine is a nazi"

Or maybe it's just you.


Why would any of us "face" what is blatantly untrue? Virtually nobody but a very few weirdos are on Russia's side at the moment.

Pro Russia? You have to be mentally sick to think anyone who opposes nuclear war to protect globalist interests is pro Russia.

Or be an infantile Moron.

Nuanced positions are a possibility.
 
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I mean it's not like multiple governments had to admit this recently or anything.

It's actually not like that at all. I'm glad you understand.


"Everyone who challenges the comfortable narrative that let's me get high off dopamine is a nazi"

It would be more convincing if you actually challenged the "comfortable" narrative credibly. Any idiot can shout that everything everyone is saying is wrong, but I'm not into non-conformism for the sake of non-conformism, but I have no problem with disbelieving the prevalent narrative if there are actual reason for doing so other than wacko conspiracies or the words of a dictator (for example, I believe there was unlawful election interference that tilted the last US elections in Biden's favor). If you want to be taken seriously, be more convincing.

Or maybe you're just a coward and a cuck.

*Shrug* maybe, maybe not.


Pro Russia? You have to be mentally sick to think anyone who opposes nuclear war to protect globalist interests is pro Russia.

One can oppose globalism while also understanding that Russia and other rogue countries like it (China, Iran, potentially Turkey although lately Erdogan cooled down some) have to be contained for the sake of all. Anti-globalism doesn't have to mean wrapping all countries in in bubble-wrap, countries can still have defensive alliances, tight trade relations, responsible immigration etc, as long as they don't try to forcibly interfere in each other's cultures.

Or be an infantile Moron.

Witty!

Nuanced positions are a possibility.
Doesn't seem like it's a possibility you've been taking so far.
 
It's actually not like that at all. I'm glad you understand.

Your denial of reality is adorable.



It would be more convincing if you actually challenged the "comfortable" narrative credibly. Any idiot can shout that everything everyone is saying is wrong, but I'm not into non-conformism for the sake of non-conformism, but I have no problem with disbelieving the prevalent narrative if there are actual reason for doing so other than wacko conspiracies or the words of a dictator (for example, I believe there was unlawful election interference that tilted the last US elections in Biden's favor). If you want to be taken seriously, be more convincing.

See, when we talk about "This would be true but for" you probably shouldn't give a lecture like that on the ass end of relentlessly strawmanning someone whose opinion of the Russia-Ukraine conflict is "May a meteor fall upon them both because I fucking hate every country in that region and I don't want us to waste our resources fighting the enemy China prepared for us to further weaken us" as being pro Putin.




One can oppose globalism while also understanding that Russia and other rogue countries like it (China, Iran, potentially Turkey although lately Erdogan cooled down some) have to be contained for the sake of all. Anti-globalism doesn't have to mean wrapping all countries in in bubble-wrap, countries can still have defensive alliances, tight trade relations, responsible immigration etc, as long as they don't try to forcibly interfere in each other's cultures.

Fancy that, the position I've been holding since y'know I haven't been defending Russia or siding with Putin you lying clown.

Oh and pro tip China isn't a rogue Nation, it rules the entire global system through the US financial and political apparatus which it has entirely subverted and currently treats like a vassal.

China isn't a rogue state, it's the God damn head of the dragon, it's the beast from revelations, it's the NWO.

Doesn't seem like it's a possibility you've been taking so far.

Only because you're insane.
 
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Imagine trusting the US Government..

Worth noting that most Americans can't find Ukraine on a map of Europe:

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However, a lot of Americans were only narrowly/barely off, placing Ukraine in southern Belarus, near the Ukrainian border with Belarus.
 
Anyone who disagrees with you is a nazi, who needs to be purged. Same energy as SB wokies.
Not anyone who disagrees with me (which would indeed be a very SB thing), but everyone who actually holds nationalist-socialist beliefs, which some people on this site do.
 
Not anyone who disagrees with me (which would indeed be a very SB thing), but everyone who actually holds nationalist-socialist beliefs, which some people on this site do.

Off-topic, but out of curiosity: What are your thoughts on Ilya Somin's book Free to Move? :

 
Worth noting that most Americans can't find Ukraine on a map of Europe:

220208_Ukraine-Placement-Map_v2.png


However, a lot of Americans were only narrowly/barely off, placing Ukraine in southern Belarus, near the Ukrainian border with Belarus.
Eh. I'd reckon most Ukrainians (or most Europeans for that matter) won't be able to pinpoint, say, Wisconsin on a map. It doesn't really mean that much.
 
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