That isn't true at all.
Perun made a video about this.
Why would they send VDV Spetznas into an airport only for them to be wiped out?
Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion
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Perun made a video about this.
Why would they send VDV Spetznas into an airport only for them to be wiped out?
Stop falling for their bullshit. The most basic characteristic of a feint is that it's *cheap*. What they did is to get their most elite units mauled badly for... what exactly? To grab a portion of what they wanted in the south, which was, according to the other side, mostly facilitated by the treason of some intelligence officer.
If they used these units in the south instead, they probably would have had Odessa too.
Unless ruling KGB Mafia wonted them dead.They were GRU and could made putch to save what is left of Mother Russia.
Arch Dornan
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They tried the quick way. It didn't work now they're going for the long way.
Exactly. That's not the definition of a faint, that's a failed bumrush at the capital to try catch the defenses with their pants down. The reason why it's not something attempted often is due to how painful it is if it doesn't work out properly.
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If you believe the Russian propaganda about what happened to their attack on Kiev, you aren't just willingly drinking their kool-aid, you're also demonstrating that your understanding of military strategy and tactics is not to the level where you can read the situation on the ground at all.
Marduk has touched on it already, but the crux is that the sheer amount and type of force Russia committed to the attack on Kiev demonstrates beyond any reasonable doubt that it was a serious offensive. And that's before you get into the matter of how taking Kiev, especially with the Ukrainian government still there, would have ended the war almost immediately, and let Russia summarily dictate terms.
Or how the Russians clearly thought resistance would fold like it did in Crimea in 2014.
Arch Dornan
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It's a risk with airborne operations. They aren't exempt. Assuming they planned it. It's failure lead to following drawn out contingencies and it's back to the long drawn out war even as it drew Ukranian troops to defend Kiev in case of more attacks on the capital.
Stating the obvious to someone with no idea of those maps. I hate reading those maps I watch what others had to say about it.
LordsFire
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You don't even need to look at maps. Reading about the amount of manpower and equipment committed to the Kiev offensives would tell you all that you need to know.
Arch Dornan
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I can register them but I won't be able to mentally work it out except the obvious set up. Russia a shadow of the Soviet Union is invading with limited numbers on what they decided as a special military operation supported by their proxy states. Ukraine is backed by NATO with millions in funding and training for this moment. The outcome? I'm still waiting but I'm seeing the losses being tallied up in lives as equipment is being used up in a limited form of industrialised warfare.
LordsFire
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If you're self-admittedly not up to the task of understanding what's really going on, why are you dropping your opinions on a subject you're ignorant about?
Arch Dornan
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I want to speak my thoughts on the matter even if I will get replied and told it's wrong. How am I supposed to know how true I think it is without an opposing answer?
Go ahead keep replying and telling me I'm wrong if I get the itchy need to share something or a thought about the war.
It's not like it'll affect anything. The actual pushers will be in the governments, industries and the frontlines.
It's an asset economy issue. Airborne units aren't made of expendable cannon fodder like the DNR/LNR militias, these are semi-elite units who get quality recruits and have a lot of training invested into them. No one can afford to throw them at operations more likely than not to end with their loss unless it's pretty much WW3 and there is no "after" to think about, because the effect of such a disaster on the military's future staffing will last for decades. For comparison consider how many such disasters did the 101st and 82nd have in USA over the whole Cold War.
Arch Dornan
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Like any massive operation, risky and costly but American logistics can cushion the blow until it can't.
American generals themselves think it's just not worth it.
Arch Dornan
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It would be a fair assessment when warfare always changes.
Sorry, but cloned supersoldiers still aren't in reach.
Arch Dornan
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Not yet but everyone will love it especially Uncle Sam everytime someone complains about the pineboxes and disabled soldiers coming back from the forever wars everytime someone keeps bringing back the topic of not learning from Vietnam.
people wouldn't mind the forever wars if they actually you know benifited from them.
Dying so some idiots can fail at self government is never fun.
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Why do you think I highlighted that? It's the wetdream of any government with an interest in foreign interventions.
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