Middle East Running Iranian threat news and discussion thread

[LordsFire]

The problem is we don't know what they are planning to do with it. If it's merely having the base and breaking international treaties with its existence, it may be a waste of money (unless it's in cooperation with some other country Iran is friends with that wants a precedent or separate partner to do something more), but what if there are further plans?
Considering the recent foray of Iran and its proxies into open aggression against civilian shipping based on its ownership and routes rather than flag, it opens up several disturbing options.

What use is Antarctica for attacking civilian shipping, when they're right on top of the straits of Hormuz, and bloody close to the Red Sea?

 

[Marduk]

What use is Antarctica for attacking civilian shipping, when they're right on top of the straits of Hormuz, and bloody close to the Red Sea?

Force splitting between shielding more routes than Red Sea. It's enough of an issue to get enough warships from western countries to take care of Red Sea, Aden, Persian Gulf, that region alone, and that's a relatively small area compared to the oceanic routes this may potentially threaten. Distract UK/US navies elsewhere, especially so far away, by launching few strikes there, that is something.
Of course that relies on the so far correct assumption that western powers won't just order their SSNs to start deleting Iranian naval assets.

The current paradigm of naval warfare is that creating a threat against civilian shipping is far cheaper than giving protection against that threat to said shipping.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

Force splitting between shielding more routes than Red Sea. It's enough of an issue to get enough warships from western countries to take care of Red Sea, Aden, Persian Gulf, that region alone, and that's a relatively small area compared to the oceanic routes this may potentially threaten. Distract UK/US navies elsewhere, especially so far away, by launching few strikes there, that is something.
Of course that relies on the so far correct assumption that western powers won't just order their SSNs to start deleting Iranian naval assets.

The current paradigm of naval warfare is that creating a threat against civilian shipping is far cheaper than giving protection against that threat to said shipping.

You really don't need to divert anything. A single run with a B2 will ruin whatever they put in place and kill every one stationed there.

 

[Tiamat]

They will threaten to melt the ice unless we all convert to Islam.

The Iranians melting the Antarctic ice??? What secret falafel-fueled superweapon did they devise to do THAT?? What will the Greenies say?

Only one thing we can do...


PRAISE ALLAH!!!

 

[Marduk]

You really don't need to divert anything. A single run with a B2 will ruin whatever they put in place and kill every one stationed there.

In theory, sure. In practice, if the US admin was willing to ruin Iranian assets with B-2 runs willy nilly until they stop doing funny business, we would be seeing a lot more B-2 runs.

 

[Zachowon]

We need more B2 runs.
And 52 runs.

 

[Bacle]

 

[Marduk]

And of course to the denial of some, all the "current things" are combining...

 

[Husky_Khan]

And of course to the denial of some, all the "current things" are combining...

Lost opportunity for Zelensky. He could've created a Pan-Nazi Alliance to destroy the Worlds Jews and Slavs a couple years ago. That chance is lost now. Putin stole it.

Putin plays Chess. The West Plays Checkers or something.

 

[Bacle]

Crew forced to abandon UK ship in devastating Houthi missile attack

The crew of a British cargo vessel was forced to abandon ship as the boat threatened to sink Monday from a Houthi missile strike near the Red Sea — one of the most damaging attacks by the terrorist…

nypost.com

So a recent Houthi attack forced a Brit crew to abandon their ship, and it may sink.

 

[Marduk]

If you wanted to write satire on this, it would be indistinguishable from news.

 

[ATP]

If Iran is going to judge who is normal Christian and who isn't and will bomb the latter i will spit on them. If you want to play Islamist's stupid games and be their good infidel who pays jizya go do it away from us.

Not Iran,common sense.Christian churches must have apostolic heritage - bishop from bishop from Jesus times.

So what? Just because propaganda alone won't knock down commie governments, doesn't mean it doesn't work. If rearming alone worked, China would have fallen alongside USSR.

It work,in democracy.That is why german agent Tusk win Poland thanks to american tv.But in totalitarian states? forget it,it always would be wasted money.

Says the guy who spams dumb conspiracy theories all over the forum and if anyone questions them just spams them more.

Conspiracy reality,my uneducated friend.

As above.

etc

Yeah, so they... encouraged the supposed rulers to leave by foregoing the opportunity to rob them, and you know how much commies love to rob people.
Why would the ruling class be encouraged to leave, and who would encourage them if they are rulers?

For those who do not knew history - normal poles could not leave in 1968,or only with their clothes.Jews could take almost everything,including thing which poles do not have - like silver.

And, many jews remained and keep their power - leaved those,who wonted.And now pretend to be victims,when their real victims are still in mass graves.

Its not mandatory to take politicians making hot takes before election on face value.

hot takes about genocide? how many politicians promised new Holocaust? and,would it be OK,too?

Arabs shout even more and no one cares, several people right here even on this obscure forum make a huge stink out of it still whenever Turkey gets brought up.

Arabs do not occupy jewish territory.And it is not normal forum - people here mostly knew history.Average joe forget armenian genocide,if he even knew about that.

And you have failed at using a brain.

For stating obvious - that Moderator should not break rules.It is not SB,after all.

We should act like a reasonable country would. Just treat it as an ordinary crime of a given severity. Someone spat on someone? Sure, it's a minor assault at most, give someone a fine or something, there shouldn't be a nationwide media scandal about it with prime minister apologizing or something, its just low class misbehavior.

So,if somebody spit on jews,everybody should be silenced,too?

Still you drink their stupid propaganda even though you live in a free country with internet access.

Hanged for being a Christian in Iran

Eighteen years ago, Rashin Soodmand's father was hanged in Iran for converting to Christianity. Now her brother is in a Mashad jail, and expects to be executed under new religious laws brought in this summer. Alasdair Palmer reports.

www.telegraph.co.uk

Of course your favorite media won't say it to you when it happens so you don't care.
In Iran it's government agents who attack them on the street, not random radicals.

Converted muslims.In every muslim country they would be killed.You do not like that? i do not like that,too.
But we need Crusade against islam,not attacking one country.And we lack christian rulers who could do that.

I won't start to believe Arab propaganda if you repeat it enough times.

Did you forget what jews were doing in Palestine before 1948 war?

Clown harder.

great logical argument.Try again!

Tech and stable strategic location.

American tech and Egypt have better location.

Great, finally you admit to agreeing with leftist property rules. That also explains nicely your love for PLO, even in Poland communists supported it.

Communists and Terrorists: Brothers in Arms or Allies of Convenience?

Romanian sources provide a fuller picture of Eastern Bloc involvement in Middle East politics after June 1967, including connections to the Palestine Liberation Organization.

www.wilsoncenter.org

Big Corpo could not have property rights,becouse they would destroy any normal bussines.You want capitalism? destroy them,or they would made another version of communism.

For all your monarchist larping you should know better than simp for commie causes.

Commies sometimes could be right - when they killed germans,or wonted to kill banksters.And other commies too,of course.

I would answer your next funny post - in few weeks.

 

[Marduk]

Not Iran,common sense.Christian churches must have apostolic heritage - bishop from bishop from Jesus times.

Both Iran and you are the opposite of people who have any right to decide what constitutes common sense.

It work,in democracy.That is why german agent Tusk win Poland thanks to american tv.But in totalitarian states? forget it,it always would be wasted money.

Again, you didn't address the point. Soviet Union fell, despite not being a democracy, yet China, NK and Cuba stand.

Conspiracy reality,my uneducated friend.

etc

Whatever, i reject your conspiracy theories and substitute my own preferred versions, checkmate pal.

For those who do not knew history - normal poles could not leave in 1968,or only with their clothes.Jews could take almost everything,including thing which poles do not have - like silver.

And, many jews remained and keep their power - leaved those,who wonted.And now pretend to be victims,when their real victims are still in mass graves.

So you have just described a classic safety vent strategy used by many dictatorships. Let groups that could be messy to deal with and are trouble to power leave on good terms before things that cannot be unsaid and undone happen.

hot takes about genocide? how many politicians promised new Holocaust? and,would it be OK,too?

Arabs can't because those who want it are Holocaust denialists so it would be awkward to call for another thing thing that they say didn't happen.

Manhunt in Britain: Protesters with Hamas bands and woman shouting 'death to all Jews'

London Police release photos of anti-Israel rally participants who made racist chants, waved offensive signs or dressed up as Hamas

www.ynetnews.com

Those aren't even in third world, yet are specific about all Jews.

Hamas Official Condemned After Calling on Palestinians to Kill Jews

Fathi Hamad, a member of the movement's top political body, draws outrage from both Israeli and Palestinian officials as well as a U.N. envoy

www.voanews.com

Hamas ones also don't bother to follow with their western useful idiot's line of distinction between Israelis and Jews.

Arabs do not occupy jewish territory.And it is not normal forum - people here mostly knew history.Average joe forget armenian genocide,if he even knew about that.

Yes they occupy some of the Jewish homeland, that were part of Jewish kingdoms long before Arabs came there. It's called Judea, not Arabia, Arabia is elsewhere.

For stating obvious - that Moderator should not break rules.It is not SB,after all.

And random user with dumb takes is not qualified to judge if a moderator breaks the rules because a moderator shit talked him for his dumb takes.

So,if somebody spit on jews,everybody should be silenced,too?

Yes. If it's a minor assault, it should not be made into an international media event. You don't have a national scandal if some idiot gopnik spits on someone in general, you would be lucky if cops even show up to arrest him.

Converted muslims.In every muslim country they would be killed.You do not like that? i do not like that,too.

Not in all, only in some.
I know it demolishes your fictional world where Iran is the good guys and you don't like it, but that fantasy world sucks.

But we need Crusade against islam,not attacking one country.And we lack christian rulers who could do that.

I don't see a reason to help the enemies unite even if we would fight them.
Divide et impera.

Did you forget what jews were doing in Palestine before 1948 war?

Jews returning to the homeland of the Jews, how scandalous.

great logical argument.Try again!

American tech and Egypt have better location.

No, Israeli tech, they cooperate because they are allies and Israel is good at this.
And Egypt has a lot of liabilities coming with being a big and poor Muslim country.

Big Corpo could not have property rights,becouse they would destroy any normal bussines.You want capitalism? destroy them,or they would made another version of communism.

Commies sometimes could be right - when they killed germans,or wonted to kill banksters.And other commies too,of course.

I would answer your next funny post - in few weeks.

Who is to decide which company gets too big and needs to be destroyed? I will agree, but only if i get to be the guy.
Failing that, i prefer capitalism.

 

[King Arts]

Both Iran and you are the opposite of people who have any right to decide what constitutes common sense.

So who are you to decide that evangelicals are real Christians?

 

[Marduk]

So who are you to decide that evangelicals are real Christians?

Who are you to decide they aren't?
Even Vatican doesn't denounce them as not Christians.

 

[King Arts]

Who are you to decide they aren't?
Even Vatican doesn't denounce them as not Christians.

I don’t really care what the Vatican and its psedu heretics say. I’m not Catholic. Evangelicals and neo Protestants are not people conservative Christians share kinship with they are arrogant and look down on other Christians while being ignorant themselves. They are not part of our in group. It’s not Muslims saying they aren’t Christians it’s me and ATP an orthodox and a Catholic saying they aren’t.

 

[Marduk]

I don’t really care what the Vatican and its psedu heretics say. I’m not Catholic. Evangelicals and neo Protestants are not people conservative Christians share kinship with they are arrogant and look down on other Christians while being ignorant themselves. They are not part of our in group. It’s not Muslims saying they aren’t Christians it’s me and ATP an orthodox and a Catholic saying they aren’t.

Well as a Catholic he on the other hand should care what Vatican says.
I also don't think major Orthodox churches write Evangelicals out of Christianity either.
Either way, it's ridiculous that anyone cares what a Shia Muslim theocracy says about who's a real Christian.

 

[LordsFire]

I don’t really care what the Vatican and its psedu heretics say. I’m not Catholic. Evangelicals and neo Protestants are not people conservative Christians share kinship with they are arrogant and look down on other Christians while being ignorant themselves. They are not part of our in group. It’s not Muslims saying they aren’t Christians it’s me and ATP an orthodox and a Catholic saying they aren’t.

Maybe the most hilarious part of this is that, by and large, here in America Evangelicals are the conservative Christians.

Catholics also make up a decent portion, but it definitely isn't the methodists, episcopalians, or other captured institutions where the core of christian cultural movement in America is happening.

 

[Zachowon]

I don’t really care what the Vatican and its psedu heretics say. I’m not Catholic. Evangelicals and neo Protestants are not people conservative Christians share kinship with they are arrogant and look down on other Christians while being ignorant themselves. They are not part of our in group. It’s not Muslims saying they aren’t Christians it’s me and ATP an orthodox and a Catholic saying they aren’t.

Protestants often don't look at them selves superior.
Most just want to worship God and live thier lives.
It seems that Orthodox are the ones that go about it a lot, at least the Russian ones...

 

[The Whispering Monk]

Question: How did we get to this discussion from Iranian threats?
Follow-up question: Why is it still relevant?