Nah, it was always shady political lobbying. What would be the point of giving Iran favors for a promise of not developing nukes... when you know they already developed them and have zero intention of giving them up? It would be even more ridiculous than giving them those favors for a promise they are unlikely to keep.
Middle East Running Iranian threat news and discussion thread
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PeaceMaker 03
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So wondering what is going on over Iranian airspace.
Poe
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The only place I've ever heard this was from you a month or so ago, so I'm not inclined to believe this is a serious consideration and think the real reason is that Joe Biden has been labelled a war monger and will do anything to avoid being unable to deny such a thing. Trump is already hitting him with the "No New Wars were started under me," at least right now Biden can say he didn't actively start any of them. Biden is smack dab in the middle of sunk cost fallacy and doesn't have it in him to jump out.
The nuke deal had a lot of haggling over amounts Iran could keep of certain isotopes in their stockpiles.
Maybe the hope was to keep Iran from getting enough weapons grade material to make/maintain any thing other than maybe single digit bombs at one time.
I heard it through a game of telephone on X a while back, was only recently I learned it was the nuke sniffer isotope ratio which was the first clue something might have happened.
It just slots neatly into the actions of the DC blob towards Iran, the whole nuke deal bit, the haggling over the amounts in the nuke deal, and why the powers in DC are so afraid to actually confront Iran directly.
It'd be nice if that weird test in NK wasn't Iranian, and just something funky homegrown to NK.
The fundamental problem with such deals, which is why they were terrible and Trump terminated them, is that it is very hard to the other side to verify if Iran is actually keeping their part of the deal (Iran was clear it will not enable any real way to fix that which should be considered enough of a hint in itself), and even harder to prove it to a point of convincing the political lobby supporting the deal that this isn't working and Iran should be punished for breaking it. Long story short, it was always a sucker's deal.
Best possible timeline.
Iranime and Persiaboos must enter the lexicon of popular culture terminology.
Iranime and Persiaboos must enter the lexicon of popular culture terminology.
King Arts
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prinCZess
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*years in the future, JSDF briefing Room*
"Gentlemen, this is Iran's new seasonal rom-com characters."
*pounds table*
"WE CANNOT AFFORD A WAIFU GAP!"
There are far, far worse outcomes than this.
A couple nukes on a few hardened Iranian military assets, PGMs for the rest, and then the biggest, most comprehensive aid plan since the Marshall Plan, and Iran can get out from under the Ayatollah and IRGC.
The Crown Prince of Iran is still alive, and I think maybe it's time to pave the way to for him to return to his throne with a few dozen bombing runs on the IRGC and their assets.
It would be real nice if we could find a way to ground their legacy F-14's, or whole remnant western air force, so we don't have to blow them up when the time comes, and can put them in museums instead.
People who are christians care about Apostolic lineage.Others opinion do not matter.
Yes - bombing North Korea.Not delivering propaganda.
Socialists.They were well aware of fact of soviet crimes.They do not wanted communism,they wanted socialism - and knew,that commies ,including sralin,are monsters.
And we should support one savages against anothers,becouse?
Funny.According to your logic,only mathematician could say,that 2+2=4
No,facts.Christians who live there from apostles times still could live and pray in their churches as second class citizens.
Iran kicked out protestants - becouse they converted muslims.Every muslim country,especially Saudis,kill for that.
So? Turkey would have another sultan,and still try to build empire.They are only muslim nation,which could do that.
Still China property.
Fictional? you arleady agreed here,that they exist.
Here:
Yup, they all are, so are other Arabs, Turks, Iranians etc. Their main differences are cultural, not genetic.
And who made monuments for soviet army,Iran or Israel?
Really? soviet jews still rule Izrael,and love sralin.
So, USA failed in Iraq,failed in Afganistan, but would succed in Iran,becouse your crystal ball say so.
I love your logic.
So by your logic most Christians also are wrong about it, and in turn your fringe opinion on this is irrelevant.
So why does North Korea get so pissed off about propaganda? Could just let people have western movies without death penalty for it if that is not a threat to the regime.
Yet wanted to be their useful idiots regardless, that says something.
Because some savages are more savage than others.
Yet that's how it works in law, you don't get to interpret the law for the supreme court, but the opposite holds true.
Not anymore, and Iran's Shia theocrats don't get to play pope on who is real Christian, only a clown would allow that.
No with that economy they could not.
What good is property that is disobedient.
No i didn't, and you never could explain what are the cultural differences between Arabs and Palestinians even though i asked many times. If they aren't different from Arabs, how can they be a separate people, they are just Arabs.
Neither. Israel has a lot of immigrants from Russia who are soveks.
In your delusional dreams.
Where is the Ba'ath party in Iraq? At least that's gone.
Iraq is not Afghanistan, and Iran is not Iraq, those are individual places, and yet again, i don't have your crystal ball, only my educated guesses, which i think are better.
Iran has Shia jihadis in charge now, if those are scattered to the four winds, they won't join Sunni one because they aren't sunnis, so there's a good chance for some sort of secular government.
King Arts
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You going to simp for protestants more?
No only real Christians decide who is a real Christians. That means that the priests and the Bishops, and the Church as a whole decide what makes one Christian or not.
Don't play clueless here, you know damn well even the Pope recognizes protestants as Christians. If you fringe folks want to further beclown yourselves and declare a crusade against the protestants as fake Christians, feel free to.
King Arts
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I'm not a Catholic so what do I care for the words of the Pope a schismatic heretic.
Welp then why does anyone in Poland or USA give a single fuck about your religious opinions if you're neither a Catholic nor Protestant.
King Arts
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USA isn't a protestant nation anymore.
So? It is a nation that recognizes protestants as Christian by overwhelming majority nevertheless.
King Arts
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No it does not recognize any religion. People can choose their religion on their own, the state has no interaction with it.
The state does not, but the nation, as in the people, absolutely do by overwhelming majority, if you don't know this that is your problem, not mine.