Protecting And Serving: Cop (mis)behavior and consequences general discussion

[bintananth]

These laws are enforced a lot, though usually not by cops. The whole reason behind these laws is to drive up prices by banning people from participating in parts of the economy.

Sorta.

They're also intended to let people know "this guy is at least minimally competent" because you don't want just any random schmuck designing and building that interstate bridge or driving tractor trailers weighing 40tons on it.

EDIT: Florida has a problem on the "designing it" side because there are a lot of retired Architects and Engineers down there. Some don't give a shit and are willing to OK stuff they didn't even look at if you write them a cheque. Contractors down there need to be experienced enough to go "hold on a sec, this is dumb" before things go horribly wrong.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

Also, more fun:

That fat whore has some sticky fingers.

 

[Cherico]

That fat whore has some sticky fingers.

Please don't insult whores by comparing them to her, they provide a service to the community in exchange for their pay and in general give people what they pay for. While this police officer did exactly the opasit of what she was paid to do. There for the longstanding and ancient profession of prositution should be given more respect then this officer who betrayed her oath.

 

[Hlaalu Agent]

So, I found this on youtube...



I thought family courts were out of line as it is, but this takes it to a whole new level. We need to reign them in, not just in the USA, not just Canada, but in every country where this unjust bullshit takes place.

*Here is hoping that she loses the appeal, and WTF judges are allowed to double-dip when it comes to the already unjust judicial immunity!?!? Well, I hope she loses hard and ends up a bum along with her gorilla squad.

 

[Abhorsen]

Florida corrections officers paralyzed a man, then left him in solitary confinement

Craig Ridley died after corrections officers paralyzed him in a beating, then left him without medical care for days.

reason.com

Prison guards paralyze a man, don't help him, and so leave him in solitary as he starved to death while able to see the food he could not eat. Monstrous.

 

[Hlaalu Agent]

Florida corrections officers paralyzed a man, then left him in solitary confinement

Craig Ridley died after corrections officers paralyzed him in a beating, then left him without medical care for days.

reason.com

Prison guards paralyze a man, don't help him, and so leave him in solitary as he starved to death while able to see the food he could not eat. Monstrous.

Or monstrous incompetence, ignorance and stupidity. But I am pretty sure monstrous covers that, I am just giving the best case scenario for these people. Either way, they need to be punished and should be punished based on what actually happened.

Though, maybe the possibility of this being stupidity is worse than the possibility of it being malicious or depraved indifference.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

Those...people...need to be in prison for the rest of their lives.

 

[Abhorsen]

Those...people...need to be in prison for the rest of their lives.

It's been about 5 years, though it's only recently become major news thanks chiefly to the Miami Herald and FOIA requests. And in those 5 years, no charges. Also, apparently Florida has a habit of guards beating prisoners enough to break necks. There's at least two other examples in the reason article, all fairly recent, all broken necks, all in Florida.

 

[Zyobot]

It's been about 5 years, though it's only recently become major news thanks chiefly to the Miami Herald and FOIA requests. And in those 5 years, no charges. Also, apparently Florida has a habit of guards beating prisoners enough to break necks. There's at least two other examples in the reason article, all fairly recent, all broken necks, all in Florida.

You know, it’d be great if DeSantis investigated this sometime…

 

[Abhorsen]

You know, it’d be great if DeSantis investigated this sometime…

I've never gotten the impression that DeSantis gives a shit about criminal justice reform. I think he's decent on other stuff, just don't think he cares a lot here. Hope he proves me wrong, but I doubt it.

 

[Zyobot]

I've never gotten the impression that DeSantis gives a shit about criminal justice reform. I think he's decent on other stuff, just don't think he cares a lot here. Hope he proves me wrong, but I doubt it.

Yeah, I wondered what his silence was about.

That said, I think he’ll have to start caring, once the authorities really gun for him and the populist base he shares with Trump. If there are isolated cases of that happening already, then I dread to imagine how much it’ll intensify leading up to 2024.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

I think Desantis is sort of sus tbh and probably a Bush era style opportunist neocon

 

[Abhorsen]

D.C. rehired cops and paid them $14 million in back pay

Out of 37 officers who were terminated and later reinstated, 17 had committed acts deemed a "threat to safety."

reason.com

 

[bintananth]

D.C. rehired cops and paid them $14 million in back pay

Out of 37 officers who were terminated and later reinstated, 17 had committed acts deemed a "threat to safety."

reason.com

Cops are underpaid and "are you willing to do the job?" sometimes overides "are you competent?"

Marion County Sheriff: Salary increases for every rank, some civilian employees in effect Friday

INDIANAPOLIS — In March, Marion County Sheriff Kerry Forestal asked the City-County Council to consider an increase in funding as it begins planning for next year’s budget. Forestal sai…

fox59.com

A Marion County Sheriff's Deputy is less highly paid than I was 25yrs ago. They have to deal with someone who might want to shiv you. I do not.

BTW, I have nothing but good things to say about Marion County Sheriffs.

 

[Sailor.X]

Well this seems like a good place to put it.



Who is former Georgia District Attorney Jackie Johnson | firstcoastnews.com

 

[Bacle]

The FBI really do not want people to know what was on Seth Rich's laptop, and seem to want to bury the Seth Rich story as much as possible.

 

[Abhorsen]

Yes, the dog was actually put on trial, that is not a joke, nor is this story. The US has a real police accountability problem, and reflexive 'back the blue' is a real problem stopping this from getting solved.

 

[Yinko]

Man who allegedly threatened New Jersey Jewish community told FBI he dislikes Jews, didn't plan harm: Sources

A young man who allegedly posted a threat against the Jewish community in New Jersey has told the FBI he is angry and dislikes Jewish people.

abcnews.go.com

How long till it comes out that it was the FBI that planned this whole thing? They probably remembered all the shit they pulled with New England Jews during Covid and thought "how can we get back in their good graces? I know! We plan a genocide and then stop it, just like we have with every other crime we've planned." The world will not end out of malice but rather from the FBI forgetting where they put the off-switch.

 

[Abhorsen]

Man who allegedly threatened New Jersey Jewish community told FBI he dislikes Jews, didn't plan harm: Sources

A young man who allegedly posted a threat against the Jewish community in New Jersey has told the FBI he is angry and dislikes Jewish people.

abcnews.go.com

How long till it comes out that it was the FBI that planned this whole thing? They probably remembered all the shit they pulled with New England Jews during Covid and thought "how can we get back in their good graces? I know! We plan a genocide and then stop it, just like we have with every other crime we've planned." The world will not end out of malice but rather from the FBI forgetting where they put the off-switch.

They wouldn't have warned if they were involved. When the FBI does it's entrapment, it likes to catch people in the act for maximum press and to guard the case against people arguing entrapment as much as possible.

Note, I'm not saying the FBI wouldn't try to convince people to do terrorism (they definitely do), I'm saying that when they do they have a very different MO than when they don't.

Basically, if it's an FBI originated plot, the first you will hear about the plot at all is when they announce arrests, or if it actually happens and the FBI screwed up even more than usual. Either way, they'd never warn ahead of time because they 'know' that they are in complete control (whatever the reality may be), so clearly, the public can't be in any danger.

 

[Yinko]

They wouldn't have warned if they were involved. When the FBI does it's entrapment, it likes to catch people in the act for maximum press and to guard the case against people arguing entrapment as much as possible.

Note, I'm not saying the FBI wouldn't try to convince people to do terrorism (they definitely do), I'm saying that when they do they have a very different MO than when they don't.

Basically, if it's an FBI originated plot, the first you will hear about the plot at all is when they announce arrests, or if it actually happens and the FBI screwed up even more than usual. Either way, they'd never warn ahead of time because they 'know' that they are in complete control (whatever the reality may be), so clearly, the public can't be in any danger.

You might be right. However, if I were doing their public relations terrorism, then I'd try doing the warning first as a way to build attention prior to the arrests. Not every time, but enough to make it seem that I was both on the ball and concerned for the public welfare.