Meme Thread for Both Posting and Discussing Memes

[LordsFire]

I sincerely hope you're not implying I was defending fucking Hezbollah with that post. Bombing the territory of Lebanon, bombing Lebanon, I don't see the difference honestly. The point is the State of Israel is killing a fuckton of people and not all of them are terrorists. I'm a libertarian. If you think you're going to get me of all people to defend a nation-state doing that shit regardless of how godly or pious it is you're fooling yourselves.

Do you think that a war can be fought with zero collateral casualties?

 

[Marduk]

I sincerely hope you're not implying I was defending fucking Hezbollah with that post. Bombing the territory of Lebanon, bombing Lebanon, I don't see the difference honestly.

Then you should learn to see things, because there is a difference even if you don't see it, and it results in you attacking Israel for not playing a "not touching you" game between Israel, Lebanon and Hezbollah. It's called hybrid warfare, you should have heard about it by now, if you didn't, you are not qualified to take part in discussions about this stuff. Lebanon is a failed state that outside of particularly malicious activists/legalists who don't want to see things, de facto does not control its territory fully, including having an independent military force bigger and better equipped than some national armies acting on its own foreign policy separate from Lebanon's government.

The point is the State of Israel is killing a fuckton of people and not all of them are terrorists.

There is no military force, state, private or in between, in history of the planet that does any large scale action without any oopsies, so it's an unrealistic standard if you want to complain about it.

I'm a libertarian. If you think you're going to get me of all people to defend a nation-state doing that shit regardless of how godly or pious it is you're fooling yourselves.

So it would be ok if private parties did it? Because that's the alternative.
Or are we just playing some silly game that poses an unattainable and impossible ideal of how the world should work against the real alternatives?

 

[mrttao]

So it would be ok if private parties did it?

NGL, I roared in laughter for like 10 seconds IRL from this.

 

[Scottty]

How monstrous, they are bombing people who keep on trying to shoot rockets at and bomb them. How dare they defend themselves, why, they should just roll over and die on command like good little victims.

Not like any other country has the right to defend itself against attack, how dare those Jews do so, right? That is what you are saying, of course.

Some of those sort of people actually don't seem to believe that any nation has the right to defend itself. They are consistent on wanting totally open borders, no personal or national self-defense rights, etc etc.

 

[mrttao]

Some of those sort of people actually don't seem to believe that any nation has the right to defend itself. They are consistent on wanting totally open borders, no personal or national self-defense rights, etc etc.

To be fair... some people also do not believe any person has that right either.
Even going so far as claiming they would rather be raped / murdered than use a gun in self defense. (or would rather see their family raped / murdered than use a gun)

 

[IndyFront]

How monstrous, they are bombing people who keep on trying to shoot rockets at and bomb them. How dare they defend themselves, why, they should just roll over and die on command like good little victims.

Not like any other country has the right to defend itself against attack, how dare those Jews do so, right? That is what you are saying, of course.

I should probably just ignore your bad faith interpretation of what I was saying, but the opportunity to destroy and utterly maim your argument is too tempting, let's start with the first part of your post, shall we?

How monstrous, they are bombing people who keep on trying to shoot rockets at and bomb them.

Except the original meme I posted wasn't referring to Hezbollah and Hamas, unless what you are doing is inferring everyone and anyone who criticizes your beloved State is Hamas/Hezbollah? Such an inference would be ludicrous to any thinking rational sapient being.

How dare they defend themselves

Are you referring to Hamas or Muslim civilians, men women and children here? Be honest.

why, they should just roll over and die on command like good little victims.

Who is the victim between an unarmed civilian and an international-law-breaking ethno-state that uses AI to engage in its explicitly anti-Human behavior? Answer me please.

 

[Zachowon]

I sincerely hope you're not implying I was defending fucking Hezbollah with that post. Bombing the territory of Lebanon, bombing Lebanon, I don't see the difference honestly. The point is the State of Israel is killing a fuckton of people and not all of them are terrorists. I'm a libertarian. If you think you're going to get me of all people to defend a nation-state doing that shit regardless of how godly or pious it is you're fooling yourselves.

So.
Wanna know something
If the people you are killing are using Human shields. Aka the civilians, and you shoot at the enemy.
Civilians die
Welcome to unconventional warfare and war crimes
Israel is killing civies due ti enemy using them as shields, not on purpose

 

[Skitzyfrenic]

Right.

Crusades are the answer.

Deus Vult.

 

[IndyFront]

So.
Wanna know something
If the people you are killing are using Human shields. Aka the civilians, and you shoot at the enemy.
Civilians die
Welcome to unconventional warfare and war crimes
Israel is killing civies due ti enemy using them as shields, not on purpose

Right.

Crusades are the answer.

Deus Vult.

And when the aggressor state is obfuscating and twisting that definition as an excuse you can be assured that a theocratic ethno-state is deliberately obscuring that definition to kill civilians. I don't know how else to tell you that states kill innocent civilians all the time and you shouldn't worship them.
Also, no, the crusades are never the answer. The crusaders got their asses kicked all across the Holy Land and by the Pagan Barbarians in Livonia, LMAOOOOOOO

 

[PsihoKekec]

Easter Bunny voicing his opinion on the trans crap he is being force-fed

Prophetic, isn't it?

 

[Marduk]

Who is the victim between an unarmed civilian and an international-law-breaking ethno-state that uses AI to engage in its explicitly anti-Human behavior? Answer me please.

Ah, so meme grade bleeding heart logic of "the poorer side with worse weapons is the victim".
Next on the news, South Korea is oppressing the poor communists in the north.
Gaza is most definitely not unarmed, and its armed people most definitely do not respect any laws requiring them to distinguish themselves from civilians.
The civilians, whether they like it or not (and a disturbing amount does like it courtesy of islamist propaganda), get used as an excuse and human shield by the islamists.
For the record, according to international law killing human shields in itself is not a crime, the side using them is committing a crime.

 

[DarthOne]

Lolwut? The Mongol Empire was huge. It was the largest (contiguous) empire in history, covering over 17 percent of the world's landmass and ruling a quarter of the global population.
Its borders stretched from Korea to Hungary.
Today, 28 countries have territory that was once ruled by the Mongol Empire.
Saying the Mongol Empire is overrated is literally like saying the British Empire was overrated, any well-read historian would laugh in your face.

Way to miss my point. The Mongol Empire didn't last half the time of the Roman or British Empires. Nor did it leave any real lasting impact on the people it ruled culturally.

 

[IndyFront]

Way to miss my point. The Mongol Empire didn't last half the time of the Roman or British Empires. Nor did it leave any real lasting impact on the people it ruled culturally.

How the fuck did they not pioneer the act of horse-riding offensive archery, do educate my troglodyte ass if you don't mind

 

[DarthOne]

How the fuck did they not pioneer the act of horse-riding offensive archery, do educate my troglodyte ass if you don't mind

Pretty sure the Parthians have them beat there, at least somewhat.

 

[mrttao]

How the fuck did they not pioneer the act of horse-riding offensive archery, do educate my troglodyte ass if you don't mind

Pioneer means "first". It does not mean "very good at it"
edit: pioneer can also mean innovator who makes big improvements to the technology or technique

 

[IndyFront]

Pretty sure the Parthians have them beat there, at least somewhat.

Yeah but outside of Mainland Europe they used it fairly efficiently to conquer offensive tribes and kingdoms. To deny this is simply incorrect.

 

[mrttao]

Yeah but outside of Mainland Europe they used it fairly efficiently to conquer offensive tribes and kingdoms. To deny this is simply incorrect.

Nobody is denying the mongols were good at being horse archers.
They are disagreeing with your use of the word "pioneer"

Definition of PIONEER

a member of a military unit usually of construction engineers; a person or group that originates or helps open up a new line of thought or activity or a new method or technical development; one of the first to settle in a territory… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

pi·o·neer ˌpī-ə-ˈnir
1: a member of a military unit usually of construction engineers
2a: a person or group that originates or helps open up a new line of thought or activity or a new method or technical development
b: one of the first to settle in a territory
3: a plant or animal capable of establishing itself in a bare, barren, or open area and initiating an ecological cycle

 

[Zachowon]

And when the aggressor state is obfuscating and twisting that definition as an excuse you can be assured that a theocratic ethno-state is deliberately obscuring that definition to kill civilians. I don't know how else to tell you that states kill innocent civilians all the time and you shouldn't worship them.
Also, no, the crusades are never the answer. The crusaders got their asses kicked all across the Holy Land and by the Pagan Barbarians in Livonia, LMAOOOOOOO

I don't worship Israel. No such care here.
Im just pointing out facts of war.
Which is kinda my thing.
i can give you an example of America in a similar issue, but we chose to stand on the moral high ground and made it harder on ourselves.
Mogadishu.
Civilian and Combatant alike were deessed the same.

welcome to guerrilla warfare.

The civulians are dying because they are being used as a propoganda piece for the Islamic world and to rile up the world against Israel.
oohiw do you feel about the Uyghers?
 

Way to miss my point. The Mongol Empire didn't last half the time of the Roman or British Empires. Nor did it leave any real lasting impact on the people it ruled culturally.

Lasting effect on hoe Muslims fought wars maybe.
With Temurlane

 

[Scottty]

Also, no, the crusades are never the answer. The crusaders got their asses kicked all across the Holy Land and by the Pagan Barbarians in Livonia, LMAOOOOOOO

On really?
Some reading for you...

Kingdom of Jerusalem - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Kingdom of Jerusalem, also known as the Latin Kingdom, was a Crusader state that was established in the Levant immediately after the First Crusade. It lasted for almost two hundred years, from the accession of Godfrey of Bouillon in 1099 until the fall of Acre in 1291.

The Crusaders won, bro. They took Jerusalem and kept it for long enough that that someone born in the Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem could live out his or her life and die of old age there. They held that territory for an order of magnitude longer than America was willing to keep occupying Iraq. The modern state of Israel has yet to last anywhere as long.

 

[Abhorsen]

NGL, I roared in laughter for like 10 seconds IRL from this.

And the NFL and NBA don't tread. Just turn off the TV.

And when the aggressor state is obfuscating and twisting that definition as an excuse you can be assured that a theocratic ethno-state is deliberately obscuring that definition to kill civilians. I don't know how else to tell you that states kill innocent civilians all the time and you shouldn't worship them.
Also, no, the crusades are never the answer. The crusaders got their asses kicked all across the Holy Land and by the Pagan Barbarians in Livonia, LMAOOOOOOO

Israel isn't the aggressor state here. Is Israel probably going to end up doing fucked things? Yeah. And they've already done fucked things. But of all the countries in the world, Israel is the one that during a war will do the least awful shit. There will still be awful shit, but less of it than if you swap any other country into Israel's position.