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Exactly this.

You know what's hilarious about all these "anti-Patriarchy" and "anti-man" feminists? They're chasing after the men who literally fuck women for fun and throw them away like used tissues.

Feminist women, on camera, have said that they want the "Chads" and "Tyrones" that "fuck 'em and leave 'em", and all the shit they spout about men being "soft" and "in touch with their feelings" being the "ideal" turns them off faster than them shoving a dead cod up their V-Holes.

This sort of shit is why I can't take feminists seriously, and why I laugh at them when they cry that the guy they hooked up with, the guy they want to have in a relationship and locked down despite being the antithesis of all their spouted bullshit, throws them away quicker than a used condom full of hot sauce.

Already is, at least in the UK.

Some old White guy was arrested for saying "this shit is disgraceful" when looking at akl the Palestinian protests, and you have people openly saying "fucking foreigners" and "London is like a fucking Middle-Eastern market".

There is a massive difference to what those on the Left, and by extension our out of touch government, think and what the every day person thinks.

Hell, racism is on the rise. I wonder why? /sarcasm

Its obvious that it's going to end with the natives running out most of the foreigners and genociding those who can't flee, Sort of like a more rapid and fast paced reconquista.
 

willdelve4beer

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WTH happened?
Thierry Breton - EU high commissioner for human rights - Post the Oct 8 demonstrations in Paris (what a coincidence) sent letters to X & Meta (along with other "VLOPs"), (specifically calling out Musk & Zuckerberg) demanding that they censor 'disinformation' posted on Meta & X. Apparently Mr Breton is under the impression that the EU has global sovreignty, or something.

In any case, yeah, European upper class twits have yet to lose their taste for attempting to order everyone else around.

One would think the last century might have taught them some humility.

guess not.
 

Jormungandr

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Thierry Breton - EU high commissioner for human rights - Post the Oct 8 demonstrations in Paris (what a coincidence) sent letters to X & Meta (along with other "VLOPs"), (specifically calling out Musk & Zuckerberg) demanding that they censor 'disinformation' posted on Meta & X. Apparently Mr Breton is under the impression that the EU has global sovreignty, or something.

In any case, yeah, European upper class twits have yet to lose their taste for attempting to order everyone else around.

One would think the last century might have taught them some humility.

guess not.
Ah, pretty much 'nuff said with that statement alone.
 

PsihoKekec

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Bassoe

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You know what's ironic? Historically when female fertility has became rarer as it does in the handmaidens tale. Women as a demographic have gained more rights and privileges,not that I expect Atwood to know that. So realistically if the virus happened like it did in that "novel" the women in that world would have become the most politically powerful group on Earth near instantly.
Just the fertile ones, the infertile ones would be treated like defective trash. Basically the opposite for that garbage novel.
Particularly fascinating, is that with modern medicine, where we explicitly know how much stress, poor diet, and other things can affect the viability of a pregnancy, women still capable of bearing children would be handled with the finest of velvet gloves.

On the flip side, for powerful men, large swathes of infertile women means there's a perpetual crop of low-liability concubines. One of the sad things about human power structures, is there's always powerful men who are willing to use their power to indulge their carnal desires, and not needing to worry about illegitimate offspring is often a plus, not a minus, for such things.

Now, I haven't read the book, but I rather strongly suspect that it also fails to address the kind of bleakness and despair that would set in for women who cannot ever have a child, and for the male parts of the population who have no chance either because of lack of fertile mates.
She's a feminist and because of that would very likely deny that reality. Remember the fit that feminists threw when Black Widow told the Hulk that she felt shifty over having infertility? Hell most feminists I've heard openly disparage the very concept of motherhood. I suspect that is because of thier heavy focus on male powersets making the primary female powerset disgusting to them. Combined with the fact that a pregnant or one with small children flat out requiring male protection and provision. Shattering thier frankly utterly absurd fantasy of "female independence" being either achievable or even desirable for the vast majority of broads.
Cloning mammals is decades-old technology, if given immunity from legal consequences of failed experiments, IE, dead babies and a national security budget of "yes", scientists could have the first vatborn human decanted in a matter of months, the first factories up and running in years.

Needless to say, this'll just create a whole new political divide. Trueborn humans are naturally fertile, since they're all born from those rare humans with genetic resistance to the sterility. Vatborn humans, being clones of naturally-sterile humans, aren't.

This means servitization. If Trueborn proliferate, eventually the majority of the human population will have the sterility-resistant genes and that destroys the market and opportunity for societal control offered by Vatborn cloning.
Seventy-Two Letters by Ted Chiang said:
"You are not alone in feeling optimistic; Dr. Ashbourne and I were just discussing how much the outlook has improved since this endeavor began. It now appears that we will have a euonym comfortably in advance of the final generation." Fieldhurst puffed on his cigar and leaned back in his chair until his head rested against the antimacassar. "This disaster may ultimately turn out to be a boon."

"A boon? How so?"

"Why, once we have human reproduction under our control, we will have a means of preventing the poor from having such large families as so many of them persist in having right now."

Stratton was startled, but tried not to show it. "I had not considered that," he said carefully.

Ashbourne also seemed mildly surprised. "I wasn’t aware that you intended such a policy."

"I considered it premature to mention it earlier," said Fieldhurst. "Counting one’s chickens before they’re hatched, as they say."

"Of course." "You must agree that the potential is enormous. By exercising some judgment when choosing who may bear children or not, our government could preserve the nation’s racial stock."

"Is our racial stock under some threat?" asked Stratton.

"Perhaps you have not noticed that the lower classes are reproducing at a rate exceeding that of the nobility and gentry. While commoners are not without virtues, they are lacking in refinement and intellect. These forms of mental impoverishment beget the same: a woman born into low circumstances cannot help but gestate a child destined for the same. Consequent to the great fecundity of the lower classes, our nation would eventually drown in coarse dullards."

"So name impressing will be withheld from the lower classes?"

"Not entirely, and certainly not initially: when the truth about declining fertility is known, it would be an invitation to riot if the lower classes were denied access to name impressing. And of course, the lower classes do have their role to play in our society, as long as their numbers are kept in check. I envision that the policy will go in effect only after some years have passed, by which time people will have grown accustomed to name impression as the method of fertilization. At that point, perhaps in conjunction with the census process, we can impose limits on the number of children a given couple would be permitted to have. The government would regulate the growth and composition of the population thereafter."

"Is this the most appropriate use of such a name?" asked Ashbourne. "Our goal was the survival of the species, not the implementation of partisan politics."
 

Bassoe

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(Scratches head) - or they could just throw the big research budget at finding a way to reverse the genetic damage the virus did?
How's about that?
Might be more difficult to do. I know the human genome is stupidly complicated.
It'd actually be really easy to fix, just grow the clones from the genomes of those rare naturally fertile humans with natural immunity, but it's a feature not a bug. If the Vatborn are unable to reproduce naturally, this makes them a captive market.
 

ATP

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So some foreigner gets to tell actual Europeans what to do now? This is basically an occupation at this stage.
I am suprised,that you are suprised.
thats going to end very badly for them isn't it?
Depend.If they had plan how to deal with muslims once they replace us,then no.
But if they do not have good plan,then muslims would butcher them after they finish us.

Well,at that point,only God could help us,becouse european elites are traitors.
 

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