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[Yinko]

Both Iraq and A-stan were AUMF. Authorization for Use of Military Force

I am telling you how the US Government sees it.
Not just the fucking military.
We legally by US law, can not be sent to do policing duties unless Insurection act or martial law.
You can blame our founding fathers for making sure the government can't weaponize the military willy nilly and send them into the streets.
They have to have valid reason, such as insurrection, or invasion.

Birder is a police action, because even nations like Poland have specific groups that are border guards, like ours.
They perform police action and the like.

And do to our little civil war, posse comitatus was created specifically do we can not have the military be armed while doing thing on US soil...

Basically, it is strictly a police function

It's not even a founding fathers issue. Pose Cometatus came about because the government sent troops to shoot at labor unions. Blame real experience of abuse.

 

[Scottty]

 

[ATP]

Optymist.Woke cultist would send US army,and they would take his gun and children.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

 

[Bacle]

Both Iraq and A-stan were AUMF. Authorization for Use of Military Force

I am telling you how the US Government sees it.
Not just the fucking military.
We legally by US law, can not be sent to do policing duties unless Insurection act or martial law.
You can blame our founding fathers for making sure the government can't weaponize the military willy nilly and send them into the streets.
They have to have valid reason, such as insurrection, or invasion.

Birder is a police action, because even nations like Poland have specific groups that are border guards, like ours.
They perform police action and the like.

And do to our little civil war, posse comitatus was created specifically do we can not have the military be armed while doing thing on US soil...

Basically, it is strictly a police function

You conveniently leave out that National Guard units are legally allowed to be used on the border without an act of war, and that such decisions are made by governors, not DC.

And if we actually did just create an effective DMZ with Mexico, and shot anyone who tried to breach it/evade a official crossing, I can guarantee you the cartels and their friends/clients would feel it.

Because as good as US border security is at the airports, you can fly to Mexico from a lot of places that won't get into the US easy.

It's why we've had Hamas infiltrators come up through there, and the TX NG has been shot at repeatedly but are not allowed to fire back.

Just letting state NG units off the chain to deal with border security with lethal forces would solve a lot of problems.

 

[King Arts]

Both Iraq and A-stan were AUMF. Authorization for Use of Military Force

I am telling you how the US Government sees it.
Not just the fucking military.
We legally by US law, can not be sent to do policing duties unless Insurection act or martial law.
You can blame our founding fathers for making sure the government can't weaponize the military willy nilly and send them into the streets.
They have to have valid reason, such as insurrection, or invasion.

Birder is a police action, because even nations like Poland have specific groups that are border guards, like ours.
They perform police action and the like.

And do to our little civil war, posse comitatus was created specifically do we can not have the military be armed while doing thing on US soil...

Basically, it is strictly a police function

Yes the way the US government sees it is a problem because it's not reality. The law can be changed, because nowhere in the constitution does it say border defense/patrol is a police matter and not a military matter.

Also it's only in modern times that Poland and others in Europe consider the border police action. Historically special military units were put there and had orders to capture or shoot anyone trying to cross the border without authorization. Because they could be an invasion, criminals, they could be foreign special forces or sabateurs. So yes it was a military matter.

 

[Scottty]

Optymist.Woke cultist would send US army,and they would take his gun and children.

Or would they?
Someone asked ChatGPT to make a poem in the style of Dr Seuss about that scenario. Here's what it produced:

Shooty shooty pew pew pew!
Let's all learn what guns can do!
Liberals in the USA
Love to nod their heads and say,
"You bought your guns from a store!
You can't fight a civil war!
Fight the army, you will lose!
They have jets and tanks to use!"
That's not where the story ends!
They have homes, and kids, and friends!
Tyrants threaten you with bombs?
Just remember: they have moms!
You can't live inside your jet!
Can we find you? Yes, you bet!
You send soldiers and marines
Up against AR-15s?
They're outnumbered ten to one.
That is why I need a gun.
Don't forget, because it's true:
Government is scared of you.

 

[Zachowon]

You conveniently leave out that National Guard units are legally allowed to be used on the border without an act of war, and that such decisions are made by governors, not DC.

And if we actually did just create an effective DMZ with Mexico, and shot anyone who tried to breach it/evade a official crossing, I can guarantee you the cartels and their friends/clients would feel it.

Because as good as US border security is at the airports, you can fly to Mexico from a lot of places that won't get into the US easy.

It's why we've had Hamas infiltrators come up through there, and the TX NG has been shot at repeatedly but are not allowed to fire back.

Just letting state NG units off the chain to deal with border security with lethal forces would solve a lot of problems.

I was just focusing on the federal stuff because that seems to be the argument.
The government again is holding the Guard back by ROE, but a DMZ like that is just asking for our birder to become like the North Korean South Korean border.
The cartels would set up checkpoints and we would basically be making it hell for people to cross. And pite toally putting more US lives in danger.

thwre are ways we can better the border, making it a DMZ kill on sight is horrible idea

Yes the way the US government sees it is a problem because it's not reality. The law can be changed, because nowhere in the constitution does it say border defense/patrol is a police matter and not a military matter.

Also it's only in modern times that Poland and others in Europe consider the border police action. Historically special military units were put there and had orders to capture or shoot anyone trying to cross the border without authorization. Because they could be an invasion, criminals, they could be foreign special forces or sabateurs. So yes it was a military matter.

*Looks at the multiple acts put in place. Insurrection act, posse comitatus act*
Definitely getting rid of these would not be a horrible idea.
Nope, nit at all...
I wonder what could happen if the military was free to just act as police forces...especially in states the government does like.
Much easier to enforce federal bans if your military can be everywhere....

What you are asking for is to allow the federal military to be used as police forces, to be sent around willy nilly.

And I know other countries do, but due to the Posse Comitatus act, which is VERY important, we are basically not allowed to have federal troops without good reason om the borders.

 

[PsihoKekec]

 

[DarthOne]

Accurate.

What’s that saying? ‘If you want to know who rules you, look at who you can’t criticize.’

Mind you that list is a lot longer the Israel. Especially outside the GOP establishment.

 

[DarthOne]

 

[ATP]

Or would they?
Someone asked ChatGPT to make a poem in the style of Dr Seuss about that scenario. Here's what it produced:

Shooty shooty pew pew pew!
Let's all learn what guns can do!
Liberals in the USA
Love to nod their heads and say,
"You bought your guns from a store!
You can't fight a civil war!
Fight the army, you will lose!
They have jets and tanks to use!"
That's not where the story ends!
They have homes, and kids, and friends!
Tyrants threaten you with bombs?
Just remember: they have moms!
You can't live inside your jet!
Can we find you? Yes, you bet!
You send soldiers and marines
Up against AR-15s?
They're outnumbered ten to one.
That is why I need a gun.
Don't forget, because it's true:
Government is scared of you.

I hope,that both you and that nice AI are right.I simply remember how commies once enslaved us,and fear that it happen now to entire world.

 

[King Arts]

*Looks at the multiple acts put in place. Insurrection act, posse comitatus act*
Definitely getting rid of these would not be a horrible idea.
Nope, nit at all...
I wonder what could happen if the military was free to just act as police forces...especially in states the government does like.
Much easier to enforce federal bans if your military can be everywhere....

What you are asking for is to allow the federal military to be used as police forces, to be sent around willy nilly.

And I know other countries do, but due to the Posse Comitatus act, which is VERY important, we are basically not allowed to have federal troops without good reason om the borders.

Those laws say the military can't be used as police. But those laws don't have a definition of "police duties" and what those are. Some are obvious like going into cities and arresting people doing crimes. But who said that guarding the border is a "police duty"? I'll tell you it was lawyers and courts who argued that, that means that diffrent lawyers could argue otherwise. A judges opinion is not the constitution if we can get another judge to rule against it.

 

[mrttao]

*Looks at the multiple acts put in place. Insurrection act, posse comitatus act*
Definitely getting rid of these would not be a horrible idea.
Nope, nit at all...
I wonder what could happen if the military was free to just act as police forces...especially in states the government does like.
Much easier to enforce federal bans if your military can be everywhere....

What you are asking for is to allow the federal military to be used as police forces, to be sent around willy nilly.

And I know other countries do, but due to the Posse Comitatus act, which is VERY important, we are basically not allowed to have federal troops without good reason om the borders.

1. you don't need to repeal any of those.
a. we do have foreign invaders streaming over the border
b. you can just make a DMZ or a protracted military base that snakes across the border

2. those laws have been ignored so many times it is not even funny.
The most recent even being when democrats stole the election and deployed the military to guard congress

 

[Simonbob]

The most recent even being when democrats stole the election and deployed the military to guard congress

National Guard.

Different rules. Still shouldn't have done it.

 

[mrttao]

National Guard.

Different rules. Still shouldn't have done it.

Why are they not deployed to the border?

 

[Simonbob]

Why are they not deployed to the border?

Don't ask me, I haven't a clue.

The federal Gov threatening anybody trying? Local rich bastards not wanting their cheap labor source shut down? Not wanting to be seen as raceist?

The whole mass importation thing never made much sense to me.

 

[Cherico]

another way of looking at it is that this was just the straw that broke the camals back.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

you assume the GOP represents most conservatives. they don't.

 

[Scottty]