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what if you were deployed 1 meter into mexico?
Then we invaded Mexico, but we could be deployed then yes
He is dead serious.

He is unsatisfied with his FOBIT life, He wants war just to feel important.
As I have said many times.
That is only part of it and is not the main reason why.
I have made it known that war is bound to happen and the sooner it happens the better for the country it will be
 
The bigger problem isn't entering illegally, it's staying illegally.

A large number of immigrants, of many ethnicities and races, will plead asylum. They will wait a week and get a court date to plead their case. And then they're let off into the states. And never show up for their court date.

For a statistically significant chunk, they let their visa expire. Most of the white-eurosphere illegals do this, but they aren't the only ones.

Anchor babies. Seriously, fuck anchor babies. Rushing across the border or 'vacationing' in the US so she'll pop while in the states should be more tightly regulated and considered. Technically legally staying but it's some bullshit.

The passing of laws that make it easy for illegal immigrants to stay here. Making their interactions with the gov't much easier and smoother than citizens. That's big fuckery.

Of course, solutions to these, which a wall doesn't particularly help with, have been suggested. Like hiring more federal judges to send to the border to handle these asylum disputes quickly and at the border. But somehow that's racist.

Beefing up ICE to better enforce the law and having our digital databanks tell us when visas expire for people who haven't checked out of the country. And ICE is just racist, amirite?

Both of these suggestions would require more resources allocated.
 
The bigger problem isn't entering illegally, it's staying illegally.

A large number of immigrants, of many ethnicities and races, will plead asylum. They will wait a week and get a court date to plead their case. And then they're let off into the states. And never show up for their court date.

For a statistically significant chunk, they let their visa expire. Most of the white-eurosphere illegals do this, but they aren't the only ones.

Anchor babies. Seriously, fuck anchor babies. Rushing across the border or 'vacationing' in the US so she'll pop while in the states should be more tightly regulated and considered. Technically legally staying but it's some bullshit.

The passing of laws that make it easy for illegal immigrants to stay here. Making their interactions with the gov't much easier and smoother than citizens. That's big fuckery.

Of course, solutions to these, which a wall doesn't particularly help with, have been suggested. Like hiring more federal judges to send to the border to handle these asylum disputes quickly and at the border. But somehow that's racist.

Beefing up ICE to better enforce the law and having our digital databanks tell us when visas expire for people who haven't checked out of the country. And ICE is just racist, amirite?

Both of these suggestions would require more resources allocated.

There may be light at the end of the tunnel, but it's the sort of light you don't want be looking at directly (or even be in line-of-sight of) when it appears:
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So State Department is being manipulated by secret cabal of gay lizard jews from outer space who in turn are manipulated [insert multiple layers of secret cabals] who in turn are manipulated by secret cabal of white nationalist frat boys whose goal is to trigger nuclear exchange with Russia in order to make America great again.

I'll put it on my bingo card.

…what does that have to do with anything beside the nuclear aspect?
 
The bigger problem isn't entering illegally, it's staying illegally.

A large number of immigrants, of many ethnicities and races, will plead asylum. They will wait a week and get a court date to plead their case. And then they're let off into the states. And never show up for their court date.

For a statistically significant chunk, they let their visa expire. Most of the white-eurosphere illegals do this, but they aren't the only ones.

Anchor babies. Seriously, fuck anchor babies. Rushing across the border or 'vacationing' in the US so she'll pop while in the states should be more tightly regulated and considered. Technically legally staying but it's some bullshit.

The passing of laws that make it easy for illegal immigrants to stay here. Making their interactions with the gov't much easier and smoother than citizens. That's big fuckery.

Of course, solutions to these, which a wall doesn't particularly help with, have been suggested. Like hiring more federal judges to send to the border to handle these asylum disputes quickly and at the border. But somehow that's racist.

Beefing up ICE to better enforce the law and having our digital databanks tell us when visas expire for people who haven't checked out of the country. And ICE is just racist, amirite?

Both of these suggestions would require more resources allocated.

I’d say do all these and the wall.
 
It might be a mistake to keep thinking of Mexico as a unitary entity. There are parts of it that Mexico City has no control over

Well,there are two possibilities here.

1. The national government could assert control, but chooses not to do so. That makes anything done by so-called 'rogue elements' and 'third parties' actions taken by defacto agents of the national government. So treat those actions as actions of the national government, and hold it accountable.

2. The national government can not assert control. It is no longer sovreign over that territory. Recognize the territorial holdings of those third parties, and declare war on them. Depending on how much help the former sovreign holds, consider giving them the territory after hostilities have concluded.

More broadly - Mexico's problems are more due to Mexico than magic lizard people from Langley.

80+ years of uninterrupted left wing uniparty control will do that to a nation.

Mexico has suffered every bit of corruption, assninity, and irrationality that the former USSR did. It is the constant trade with the US that has kept Mexico afloat for the past century or so, and it is the ability to offload their most ambitious and restless up north that has allowed the Mexican ruling class to vent the pressures that would otherwise force them to change their ways.


The US needs to cut off mass immigration from Mexico, not so much for our benefit (Dem dreams of using replacement theory to turn Republican states blue are crashing and burning hard as the Dems turn away from their Labor-ethnic roots and assume their final-form as apologists for elitist debauchery and status), but for theirs. Mexico is never going to get the quality of leadership and freedom that Mexicans deserve as long as the US border servers as a release valve for the existing agglomerations of corruption masquerading as local and national governments that the Mexicans have suffered under for well over a century.

How, as with many things, the issue is not the supply, the issue is demand.
1. Cut off all welfare benefits for illegal aliens. Criminals should not qualify for government assistance while they are still actively committing crimes.
2. Arrest and jail those who hire illegal immigrants, prosecute them under the laws against slave-trading.
3. End asylum applications in the US. If they want asylum, they need to apply at home. If they try to apply in the US, fly them to Guantanamo, and they can wait their until their cases are resolved.
4. Immediately deport illegal aliens found in the US across the closest international border. They don't have a passport? Not our problem. Mexico and Canada don't want them? Fine, give them a life raft and drop them 100 miles from land off the nearest coast. Publicize this policy. Soak up the bad press when the first few die at sea.
5. Treat the US border as something that actually matters - set military bases along it, treat trespass on those bases as attempts to trespass on any restricted US military facility, and shoot on sight. Publicize this policy and the inevitable resultant deaths as well.

You'll probably see a few dozen deaths, but the flow will turn to a trickle rather quickly.


As for the cartels, the US could cut them off at the knees overnight by legalizing most intoxicants, and regulating those the way we do alcohol. There are only two or three corporations who ultimately own about 80% of the alcohol sold in the US, but we're not worried about them taking over towns and breaking the rule of law. The only people who want to keep current US drug laws in place are:
1. the deluded idiots who think, somehow, magically, Prohibition 2.0 will start working if we shoot more people. These are the sort of people who think they can create cold fusion with a light-stick and seltzer water.
2. the virtue signalling moralists who don't care that it never has nor will work, but want to go on record as being against "bad things". Why anyone listens to this type, about anything, escapes me.
3. the current judicial/correctional/legal industry participants, who need the revenue stream. Both from the budgets to do their jobs, and the bribes not to do so.
4. the alphabet agencies, who like to have something to fall back on as a convenient justification for their budgets, status, and power, for when this whole terrorism thing finally burns out.
5. the cartels themselves, who know damn well that the only real impact of US drug laws is to inflate their profit margins and minimize competition.


Are drugs bad? Yes. Do they screw up peoples lives? Yes.

You know what? So do gambling, drinking, smoking, sex, and the internet. People will find ways to screw up their lives, no matter how hard you try to mommy them. Maybe try treating American adults as actual adults, and let them own the consequences, for good or ill, of their choices.
 
Well,there are two possibilities here.

1. The national government could assert control, but chooses not to do so. That makes anything done by so-called 'rogue elements' and 'third parties' actions taken by defacto agents of the national government. So treat those actions as actions of the national government, and hold it accountable.

2. The national government can not assert control. It is no longer sovreign over that territory. Recognize the territorial holdings of those third parties, and declare war on them. Depending on how much help the former sovreign holds, consider giving them the territory after hostilities have concluded.

More broadly - Mexico's problems are more due to Mexico that magic lizard people from Langley.

80+ years of uninterrupted left wing uniparty control will do that to a nation.

Mexico has suffered every bit of corruption, assninity, and irrationality that the former USSR did. It is the constant trade with the US that has kept Mexico afloat for the past century or so, and it is the ability to offload their most ambitious and restless up north that has allowed the Mexican ruling class to vent the pressures that would otherwise force them to change their ways.


The US needs to cut off mass immigration from Mexico, not so much for our benefit (Dem dreams of using replacement theory to turn Republican states red are crashing and burning hard as the Dems turn away from their Labor-ethnic roots and assume their final-form as apologists for elitist debauchery and status), but for theirs. Mexico is never going to get the quality of leadership and freedom that Mexicans deserve as long as the US border servers as a pressure release valve for the existing agglomerations of corruption masquerading as local and national governments that the Mexicans have suffered under for well over a century.

How, as with many things, the issue is not the supply, the issue is demand.
1. Cut off all welfare benefits for illegal aliens. Criminals should not qualify for government assistance while they are still actively committing crimes.
2. Arrest and jail those who hire illegal immigrants, prosecute them under the laws against slave-trading.
3. End asylum applications in the US. If they want asylum, they need to apply at home. If they try to apply in the US, fly them to Guantanamo, and they can wait their until their cases are resolved.
4. Immediately deport illegal aliens found in the US across the closest international border. They don't have a passport? Not our problem. Mexico and Canada don't want them? Fine, give them a life raft and drop them 100 miles from land off the nearest coast. Publicize this policy. Soak up the bad press when the first few die at sea.
5. Treat the US border as something that actually matters - set military bases along it, treat trespass on those bases as attempts to trespass on any restricted US military facility, and shoot on sight. Publicize this policy and the inevitable resultant deaths as well.

You'll probably see a few dozen deaths, but the flow will turn to a trickle rather quickly.


As for the cartels, the US could cut them off at the knees overnight by legalizing most intoxicants, and regulating those the way we do alcohol. There are only two or three corporations who ultimately own about 80% of the alcohol sold in the US, but we're not worried about them taking over towns and breaking the rule of law. The only people who want to keep current US drug laws in place are:
1. the deluded idiots who think, somehow, magically, Prohibition 2.0 will start working if we shoot more people. These are the sort of people who think they can create cold fusion with a light-stick and seltzer water.
2. the virtue signalling moralists who don't care that it never has nor will work, but want to go on record as being against "bad things". Why anyone listens to this type, about anything, escapes me.
3. the current judicial/correctional/legal industry participants, who need the revenue stream. Both from the budgets to do their jobs, and the bribes not to do so.
4. the alphabet agencies, who like to have something to fall back on as a convenient justification for their budgets, status, and power, for when this whole terrorism thing finally burns out.
5. the cartels themselves, who know damn well that the only real impact of US drug laws is to inflate their profit margins and minimize competition.


Are drugs bad? Yes. Do they screw up peoples lives? Yes.

You know what? So do gambling, drinking, smoking, sex, and the internet. People will find ways to screw up their lives, no matter how hard you try to mommy them. Maybe try treating American adults as actual adults, and let them own the consequences, for good or ill, of their choices.
My problem, good sir, isn’t that American citizens aren’t being treated like children. It’s that legalization of drugs to the level you want will only serve to make issues even worse.

That and getting a lot of people who aren’t druggies hurt or killed, likely even more then now.
 
My problem, good sir, isn’t that American citizens aren’t being treated like children. It’s that legalization of drugs to the level you want will only serve to make issues even worse.

That and getting a lot of people who aren’t druggies hurt or killed, likely even more then now.
Will it really?

We've deliberately kept evolution from doing it's job in this space for nearly a century, and have accumulated a lot of self-destructive idiots and unconstitutional, even unamerican, jackbooted thuggery along the way. Idiots who would otherwise have more thoroughly removed themselves from the gene-pool. Thuggery which has inevitably been applied well outside of the "drug wars". Mind you, most of the idiots still manage to leap into an early grave, it just takes more time and resources (from themselves and society as a whole) than it would otherwise.

The point is, the current policy does nothing to prevent those who want to screw up their lives from doing so.

What it does do, is keep them and their problems sidelined enough that the upper middle class parents can go about their day to day without sparing the whole mess much thought.

The price for doing so has been creating an authoritarian, corrupt, militarized network of armed bands across the country who act as a law unto themselves, scorning any form of restraint. It also creates a guaranteed (and absolutely massive) flow of illegal revenue which continually spawns cartels and syndicates to feed off it. It does so while undermining rule of law, corrupting government at every level, and establishing organized shadow networks which can be easily leveraged by actual threats.

Personally, I think the cost/benefit is massively negative for Americans, and see no indication that there is any realistic chance of changing that basic outcome. The policy is a loser for the USA, and it is time to stop shooting ourselves in the foot in on this one.

The main change from doing this will be to make the mess more public, which will annoy the biffs and buffies of the world. More importantly, it will shift the revenue streams away from Cartels into something known and taxable, while hopefully reducing at least some of the screamingly rampant corruption, and restoring something resembling respect for our constitutional guarantees of personal property and privacy.
 
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hang on a moment.
USA deployed military inside USA before
Oh, I misunderstood the argument I barged into, my apologies.
He used the Insurection act of 1807, which can only be used against Insurection that the president has called to stop
 

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