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Mas is slowly coming off.
 
All of those are so very, very true.

They don't want a solution: They want communism under the guise of a solution.
The truth is leaking out to even the normies, now. All those times we were called "conspiracy theorists" and the like? Yeah, even those who supported the Vax, including Lefty doctors, are now waking up to the nightmare they helped usher in.
And the last? Yeah, Europe. 'nuff said.
 
I'm still trying to figure out how you come to the conclusion that acting in direct contradiction to all that Christianity stands for is the 'natural aftermath' of Christianity.
Explicitly contradictory to its moral foundations, but then taking parts of its ethics far away from sense. Christianity specifically denying kings any special exception from morality is a divergence from the preceding commonality of god-kings and religious justifications that enormous exploitation of subordinates is fine, being a very clear part of the philosophical lineage responsible for the modern concept of equality of people that is at the core of Communism's fuckups.

Complaining that it's too good at it's job of holding your civilization together that it makes counter movements especially brutal is certainly an odd take though.
I suppose it's better phrased as a massive problem with "brittle" ethics, in that by tying almost all of moral behavior to a small set of premises and working to remove external ones the counter-movements that do take off are much more severe, abrupt, and hard to correct than under most other moral frameworks.

We are not in a position to compare post-Christian Europe with "never-was-Christian" Europe, as the latter is purely a what-if.
We can, however, compare the before-and-after: Imperial Roman polytheism worked to keep people on the same page for "big picture" matters to hold the Empire together but was largely unconcerned with theological minutia of how who related to who or the exact setup of rituals, whereas Christianity worked to have only "One True Way" for viewing the world as a whole and saw remarkably routine street riots over such fine details the "mainstream" was unconcerned with enforcing.

So now... are you saying this is a good or bad thing? Would you prefer a system like that of China?
Good thing, hence the next sentence starting with "though" to denote a separate matter that's a bad thing.
 
When I was very young, I was instructed by my grandpa that if there was a break-in, I should light a match and then call the Fire Department and tell them I smelled smoke (the lighting of a match was so that I wouldn't be lying).

The reasoning was that the fire department would get there much sooner than the police, a couple of minutes rather than thirty, and their noise would be effective in scaring off an intruder just as much as the police would.

Today you can probably add that the fire department will break through the front door, but won't open fire on your dog and potentially you on sight.
 
When I was very young, I was instructed by my grandpa that if there was a break-in, I should light a match and then call the Fire Department and tell them I smelled smoke (the lighting of a match was so that I wouldn't be lying).

The reasoning was that the fire department would get there much sooner than the police, a couple of minutes rather than thirty, and their noise would be effective in scaring off an intruder just as much as the police would.

Today you can probably add that the fire department will break through the front door, but won't open fire on your dog and potentially you on sight.
That's really smart. As true today as it was when your grandpa taught it to you.
 
Christianity specifically denying kings any special exception from morality is a divergence from the preceding commonality of god-kings and religious justifications that enormous exploitation of subordinates is fine, being a very clear part of the philosophical lineage responsible for the modern concept of equality of people that is at the core of Communism's fuckups.
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The idea that rulers were held accountable to morality is hardly unique to Christianity. You find obvious precedent for that in Judaism, who's kings were constantly held to the same moral standards as the people by the Prophets and God. But then, this is logical considering Christian moral thought is directly descended from Jewish moral thought. Further Judeo-Christian thought was hardly the only place the idea that rulers had to be beholden to common morality appeared, you saw that same idea crop up in both Greek and Roman political philosophy, and China especially has a long philosophical tradition discussing the moral standard rulers are held to. It's a major dialogue within Confucianism, with both Confucius and Mencius writing about how rulers are held to moral standards and are not above morality, as well as the Taoists. Granted, they also had a philosophical school that basically DID grant allowance to the rulers to do anything, but Legalism is kinda a notable EXCEPTION in that regard.
 

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