Meme Thread for Both Posting and Discussing Memes
- Thread starter Captain X
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You cared enough to call Zelensky as contemptible as Putin, when I called you out.
Yet you have not answered why he is as contemptible as Putin.
I think you just get off on 'being against the current thing, if it is at all associated with the current US gov', without actually double checking anything or examining it for obvious bullshit beforehand. I get it, to a degree, because I hate the Biden admin too.
I just hate what Russia is doing to Ukraine MORE than I hate our domestic situation, and actually remember how this all started back in 2014, because I saw it in real time on SB.
I also remember when the Ukrainian gov almost had the rebels defeated, and Russia push columns of 'little green men' across the border and began shelling across the border to protect the Donbas rebels, and the West would not allow Ukraine to fire back into Russia at the units firing on them.
I remember the gun-point 'annexation' of Crimea, and the rebels bragging about downing a Ukrainian transport for about 10 minutes before it came out it was an Malaysian airliner.
I thought you were on SB long enough to remember that shit too; just because the current DC gov is illegit and corrupt does not make Russia the good guy in this conflict.
And the lines about Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea, Iran, and pretty much all the Central/South American bits are just wrong.
In fact, outside the top line of the meme, most of it is inaccurate.
Simonbob
Well-known member
I won't speak for the rest of it.
But, there's quite a bit of evidence the Zelensky is at least as corrupt as Putin, if not more so.
That doesn't excuse the invasion, but as indivduals? Yeah, Zelensky's terrible.
Zelensky has guts, he could have easily fled for safety but yeah he is objectively speaking corrupt, its just that he actually has some gratatude to the country that made him rich. Which puts him ahead of many western leaders who are just as corrupt but have no gratatude to their home countries.
I'd like to evidence of the corruption Zelensky is involved in.
And the fact is, he stayed when the US offered him a ride, and asked for ammo instead; he was a comedian before the war, not part of the old institutional corruption from the previous Russia-friendly regime.
Simonbob
Well-known member
He's got guts, sure.
Seperately.
How corrupt is Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky? | MR Online
Before the Russian invasion, CIA reports linked him to an oligarch so dirty and so mired in “significant corruption” that the State Department banned him from entering the U.S. But now CIA propaganda portrays Zelensky as nobler than Winston Churchill and saintlier than Mother Theresa. Will the...
mronline.org
There was more, but this'll do.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
...That's literally guilt by association.
I figure odds are good that Zelensky is at least somewhat corrupt, given how corrupt Ukraine as a whole is, it's unlikely he's been able (or necessarily even tried) to avoid that.
But you're trying to convince us he's as corrupt as Putin through guilt by association? Give us something of substance, not a connection to someone else who is probably very corrupt.
If that's the best you've got, that makes me think he's less likely to be corrupt than I thought.
I figure odds are good that Zelensky is at least somewhat corrupt, given how corrupt Ukraine as a whole is, it's unlikely he's been able (or necessarily even tried) to avoid that.
But you're trying to convince us he's as corrupt as Putin through guilt by association? Give us something of substance, not a connection to someone else who is probably very corrupt.
If that's the best you've got, that makes me think he's less likely to be corrupt than I thought.
And... so what?
At least something like 80% of world's countries have more or less corrupt leaders. With more liberal definitions of the term could be close to 100%.
But that means nothing for geopolitical interests of countries involved more or less directly in any war.
It does.
I hope this one meets with everyone’s approval.
And is sadly very accurate
Afghanistan did have al-Qaeda bases, Syria did have a nuclear weapons program, and so did Libya until 2003. I remember a joke on a liberal forum about Gaddafi's WMDs from when he gave them up in December 2003:
"We never heard about these WMDs before, so they must be real!"
well at least he's honest.
Isn't porn forbidden in Islam? Though not all Muslims are very religious, if one wants to be fair.
It is in most (?) branches of Christianity. Which, I’m sad to say, hasn’t stopped it much.
Skitzyfrenic
Well-known member
Yes, porn is haram. Forbidden. It is a sin.
And Islam is still in an older form, there has been no reformation or counter reformation. Morality policing is even encouraged. And things like honor killings. Muslims get away with both of those things in Western countries, imagine how much worse it must be in places where Islam has actual sway and authority.
And Islam is still in an older form, there has been no reformation or counter reformation. Morality policing is even encouraged. And things like honor killings. Muslims get away with both of those things in Western countries, imagine how much worse it must be in places where Islam has actual sway and authority.
Simonbob
Well-known member
'Shug'
5 minutes look. I could be wrong about who's worse. There were a few other comments around, but I don't have any evidence one way or the other. On the other hand, I'm not sure how much Putin's corruption goes, either. (Never looked too deep.)
I suppose I'm a little tilted against Ukraine after I heard about the baby murder for stem cells. That was really horrible stuff.
The Lotus Eaters were talking about it, a while back, amongst others.
5 minutes look. I could be wrong about who's worse. There were a few other comments around, but I don't have any evidence one way or the other. On the other hand, I'm not sure how much Putin's corruption goes, either. (Never looked too deep.)
I suppose I'm a little tilted against Ukraine after I heard about the baby murder for stem cells. That was really horrible stuff.
The Lotus Eaters were talking about it, a while back, amongst others.
