Media/Journalism Cringe Megathread - Hot off the Presses

Bacle said:
Man, you sure are wigging out over this in a kneejerk and acting like a known grifter and foreign agent for Russia, Lauren Shen, is somehow more credible than Tim Pool and Dave Rubin.

Because that is who testified.
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...Lauren Chen.

Known grifter for Russia.

I haven't followed her stuff in the last couple of years, but last I checked, what she was known for was being anti-establishment, not pro-Russian.

I'm pressing F to doubt.
 
Bacle said:
Man, you sure are wigging out over this in a kneejerk and acting like a known grifter and foreign agent for Russia, Lauren Shen, is somehow more credible than Tim Pool and Dave Rubin.

Because that is who testified.
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Do you have a link to Tim Pool testifying that he witnessed Lauren Shen knowingly colluding with the Russian Govt?

Also, I have literally never heard of Lauren Shen before today.
But I don't need to know her

the DOJ is going after her. The same corrupt DOJ that went after trump, and went after the stop the steal protestors, and went after various other innocent voices against the current corruption.
The same DOJ that worked hard to bury and hide the crimes of the biden crime clan.

And then, you personally go several steps BEYOND what even that DOJ said.

Knowing you, I bet she probably said something negative about ukraine not being angel country ruled by angel govt with angel angelism. And that triggered you hard into declaring her an enemy of yours forever.
 
So I see everyone is actively ignoring the actual link to the court documents posted up by @Zachowon, because actually admitting the Russian have been actively subverting part of the GOP via shit like this might force the GOP media machine to do some introspection it doesn't like and do more due diligence against shit like this.
 
LordsFire said:
haven't followed her stuff in the last couple of years, but last I checked, what she was known for was being anti-establishment, not pro-Russian.
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Anti US establishment, thus making her a useful pawn for any enemies of the US. In other words, Russia.

So she is still a Useful Idiot, but only time can tell if she's a traitor. After all, there's nothing illegal about going against US policies even if it indirectly aids enemies of the US. That level of liberty is why the US will never have Lysenko moments, because free countries don't have that psychotic with-us-or-against-us mindset. So if she's just an indirect and unwitting pawn, then she's just an object for mockery and nothing more.

But active treason? Well, that's different.
 
SoliFortissimi said:
Anti US establishment, thus making her a useful pawn for any enemies of the US. In other words, Russia.

So she is still a Useful Idiot, but only time can tell if she's a traitor. After all, there's nothing illegal about going against US policies even if it indirectly aids enemies of the US. That level of liberty is why the US will never have Lysenko moments, because free countries don't have that psychotic with-us-or-against-us mindset. So if she's just an indirect and unwitting pawn, then she's just an object for mockery and nothing more.

But active treason? Well, that's different.
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Lockdowns, mask mandates, and 'vaccine' mandates have already been our first Lysenko 'moment.'

Whether we'll get more remains to be seen.
 
LordsFire said:
Lockdowns, mask mandates, and 'vaccine' mandates have already been our first Lysenko 'moment.'

Whether we'll get more remains to be seen.
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Lockdowns in general not so much because it's just general quarantine as you do for an airborne disease, and the mask mandates being bullshit was more about the laughable impossibility of supplying masks that work. The "vaccines'" rather early stage of testing was showing quite a bit of promise but also horrible side effects, which given the lockdowns were causing the over-financialized house of cards to start coming down got emergency approval because it was a good enough reason to let up the janky quarantine measures to keep the supply chains from fully disintegrating. Especially given how the books were being cooked to look better to the decision-makers that would have been spotted in the more controlled longer-term studies.

The RNA "vaccines" not being such when initially approved is about the exact biological mechanism being different rather than inefficacy at preventing contagion, as due to the historic development it was specifically defined with regard to the inactivated virus inoculation method, while the RNA antibody training provokes a response against an abnormal single protein selected for low likelyhood of mutation to get around the normal surface protein antigens losing efficacy in extremely short order.

Of course, because it was making the isolated proteins come from the patient/test subject cells it turned out to be a crapshoot what immune response would arise. And the engineered RNA sequence turned out to be more stable than expected and be absorbed slower so instead of weeks of production localized at the injection site it's months scattered throughout the body making the autoimmune condition response cause a wide variety of horrible things. To say nothing of spike protein pathology. These issues are not entirely intuitive when you look at the biochemistry in question, and take quite a bit of time to become apparent when you test for the unexpected result, so much of it was honestly missed by the extremely compressed testing.

Certainly there's a massive monetary incentive to almost all the decision-makers, but there's also the good-faith politics of a pandemic having much higher time preference than normal day-to-day medical practice, since you're looking at statistically-significant sections of the population at risk in the standard approval timeframe and enormous economic damage from preventative policies... Even if that being the case has more to do with the horrific general state of health and demography to begin with than the disease being an incredibly nasty one on its own, given the comorbidity rates.

The loss of trust is that everything about it being a matter of risk assessment has been relentlessly buried in favor of pushing mandates for everyone, including the rather large part of the population at more risk from vaccine side effects than COVID-19. It's a matter of complicated minutia making it sometimes a good idea and sometimes a bad being brushed under the rug in violation of informed consent laws for yet more all-or-nothing hard-tribalism politics, including the media flipping on efficacy the moment the old white man in the Oval Office changed.
 
Fox News somehow has one of the most popular late night "comedy" shows with Greg Gutfeld and now, it's even more popular with Democrats (and Independents) then the dreck like Jimmy Kimmel or the Daily Show.

The only late show to outpace Gutfeld with Democrats was Colbert and even he's well behind in the Independent and especially Republican category.

www.mediaite.com

Fox’s Gutfeld Outpacing Late Night Competition with Independents AND Democrats, Nielsen Data Shows

Fox News host Greg Gutfeld has more Democrats watching him than late night hosts Jimmy Fallon and Jimmy Kimmel, according to data from Nielsen MRI Fusion.
www.mediaite.com www.mediaite.com

This is a trend that's been going on for years now it seems.

Husky_Khan said:
One year on and Gutfeld's show is somehow still winning late night... only winning morerererer...



Oof... the Daily Show with Trevor Noah is so bad it's almost comparable in ratings to CNN!
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Husky_Khan said:
Fox News somehow has one of the most popular late night "comedy" shows with Greg Gutfeld and now, it's even more popular with Democrats (and Independents) then the dreck like Jimmy Kimmel or the Daily Show.

The only late show to outpace Gutfeld with Democrats was Colbert and even he's well behind in the Independent and especially Republican category.

www.mediaite.com

Fox’s Gutfeld Outpacing Late Night Competition with Independents AND Democrats, Nielsen Data Shows

Fox News host Greg Gutfeld has more Democrats watching him than late night hosts Jimmy Fallon and Jimmy Kimmel, according to data from Nielsen MRI Fusion.
www.mediaite.com www.mediaite.com

This is a trend that's been going on for years now it seems.
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Probably in large part because left wing comedy is so restricted. Can't make jokes about this or that or one community or another is going to lash out, etc
 
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Imagine being a political Podcaster for the Democratic party with over a hundred thousand subscribers across individual multiple platforms and saying this as your cringe comeback.



Even worse, this Ryan Shaed guy was tricked into thinking an account named "Not Elon Musk" was somehow Elon Musk.

Sad.
 
Jaenera Targaryen said:
Ever heard of the First Amendment, lady? America isn't Europe.
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You know she hates it. She's from the West Wing era of politics, where the ruling classes actually deluded themselves into believing they were enlightened philosopher-kings rather than petulant demagogues.

The modern generation of Democrats, which will take over once Pelosi is safely under the ground, does not have that weakness. They know what they are, and they don't care.
 
I honestly wouldn't mind being ruled by a proper philosopher-king. It'd be a good change from the sophists and demagogues that pass for 'leaders' these days.
 
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