The Americas Massive Battle Between Sinaloa Cartel and Mexican Army Ongoing After El Chapo's Son Captured, Mexican Air Support Battling Cartel AA Active

[ShadowArxxy]

Note that one of the major cartels was literally founded by Mexican special forces troops.

Well, to be slightly more accurate, Los Zetas was originally founded as a new security/enforcement arm for the Gulf Cartel, but ultimately broke away and became its own cartel. But it still was literally founded by a retired Special Forces officer who recruited over thirty Special Forces troops to desert and join him, and that's specifically what made them so dangerous and successful.

*Looks at arming & training of special forces that became the Zeta cartel*

To be fair, they were legit special forces troops at that time, and no one had any idea which specific ones were going to join the cartels for many times the pay, any more than the U.S. Army itself can predict which of their soldiers are going to join PMCs for many times the salary they can make by continuing to serve.

 

[Zyobot]

Well, to be slightly more accurate, Los Zetas was originally founded as a new security/enforcement arm for the Gulf Cartel, but ultimately broke away and became its own cartel. But it still was literally founded by a retired Special Forces officer who recruited over thirty Special Forces troops to desert and join him, and that's specifically what made them so dangerous and successful.

To be fair, they were legit special forces troops at that time, and no one had any idea which specific ones were going to join the cartels for many times the pay, any more than the U.S. Army itself can predict which of their soldiers are going to join PMCs for many times the salary they can make by continuing to serve.

To be fair, they were legit special forces troops at that time, and no one had any idea which specific ones were going to join the cartels, any more than the U.S. Army itself can predict which of their soldiers are going to join PMCs for many times the salary they can make by continuing to serve.

You posted this same paragraph twice.

 

[ShadowArxxy]

You posted this same paragraph twice.

I know, I posted it and then merged it with my previous post.

 

[Zyobot]

I know, I posted it and then merged it with my previous post.

Gotcha'.

*Looks at Operation Fast & Furious*

Afraid I beat you to it, friend.

Otherwise, don't know much about the Mexican drug cartels beyond some very broad strokes, so I don't suppose you or others have any recommended reading to send my way? Photos and footage from social media are fun and all, but not terribly "comprehensive" or great at providing context via a ten-second video or in 150 characters or less, if you know what I mean.

 

[Lord Sovereign]

Mexico has some rather dire problems, doesn’t it? It’s a pity. I went on holiday there once and the people struck me as a good bunch.

 

[Zyobot]

Mexico has some rather dire problems, doesn’t it? It’s a pity. I went on holiday there once and the people struck me as a good bunch.

I take it you stayed in a good area?

Frankly, I can't imagine vacationing to "problem zones" where cartel activity or armed hostilities happen regularly, let alone living there — as many an unfortunate Mexican does, I fear. Don't agree with them wholesale, but even though their solutions tend to be shit and unchecked mass-migration in general isn't good, there are times when I genuinely sympathize with illegal migrants or pro-migrant activists who see their plight and genuinely want to help them out of it.

 

[AnimalNoodles]

coming someday to an american city near you.

 

[Cherico]

Mexico has some rather dire problems, doesn’t it? It’s a pity. I went on holiday there once and the people struck me as a good bunch.

They are but their political class has been retarded for hundreds of years

 

[Blasterbot]

They are but their political class has been retarded for hundreds of years

the illegal immigration has been a pressure release valve for them too. a lot of people just leave instead of trying to make it better. otherwise there would have been bloody revolution. whether against the government or the cartels your guess is as good as mine.

 

[Lord Sovereign]

They are but their political class has been retarded for hundreds of years

Latin America does seem to struggle with such things, doesn’t it? Part of me reckons it’s down to Spain and Portugal having such massive oversight over their colonies, thus preventing the development of stable colonial administration that could evolve into proper governments.

That and, given that their political lineage is one of Catholic Empires, democracy does not quite fit a society designed for autocracy.

 

[Knowledgeispower]

Honestly I feel that known cartel facilities would make for lovely live fire targets when we need to train the ground attack mission of the USAF. But that would require the federal governments of both nations being willing to make that work.

 

[Zyobot]

Domestic airlines cancel flights to Sinaloa for security

A range of flights to Culiacán, Los Mochis and Mazatlán in the state of Sinaloa were canceled after the Thursday arrest of a cartel chief.

mexiconewsdaily.com

 

[Terthna]

Plus, when they blow up at you--and they will, often...'latina temper' is a stereotype for a reason...it tends to be much more survivable thanks to the differences in firepower between a chancla and an IED.

Of course, that means you face repeated encounters with the chancla, whereas the explosion is a quick and easier death...

Arab women aren't the problem; it's the men you have to worry about getting angry, though they're more likely to take it out on their women than you.

 

[Zyobot]

More news: Extradition of El Chapo’s son Ovidio Guzman to US screeches to halt.

 

[Knowledgeispower]

More news: Extradition of El Chapo’s son Ovidio Guzman to US screeches to halt.

I wonder how much the bribe for that was...

 

[Bacle]

I wonder how much the bribe for that was...

Or what level of threats.

 

[Zyobot]

I wonder how much the bribe for that was...

Or what level of threats.

Good questions.

Like I said, don’t know much about the Mexican cartels, but based on what Al Capone and his buddies pulled in 1920s Chicago, it’s probably fair to extrapolate that these guys can do that — and orders of magnitude worse.

 

[Bacle]

Good questions.

Like I said, don’t know much about the Mexican cartels, but based on what Al Capone and his buddies pulled in 1920s Chicago, it’s probably fair to extrapolate that these guys can do that — and orders of magnitude worse.

Capone didn't have ex-Mexican special forces and Barrett .50's.

 

[Zyobot]

Capone didn't have ex-Mexican special forces and Barrett .50's.

Like I said, orders of magnitude worse, which also includes “connections” inside the Mexican government and armed forces that probably would make Capone seethe with envy.

Dunno whether there’s an afterlife to look forward to, exactly. But if Hell’s real, then the odds of El Chapo and his cronies sharing the same space with 1920s Mafia heads seem quite high.

 

[Zachowon]

Apperently the same thing they did to El Chapo himself.
Appeal to stop it, and it hasn't stopped the US from saying "lol nope"