Leftist Child Grooming

Marduk

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IIRC, studies of prepubescent sexual attraction show that it's almost never sex-selective, while the limited studies of "entanglement" in homosexuals show that it's specific to early puberty. Overall, the "intrinsic homosexual pedophilia" seems to be just the "mirror" of ~14-16 ephebophilia we're conditioned to ignore the incredibly common heterosexual case of (the entire concept of "jailbait" is literally just pointing out that such attraction is basically normal).
You may be onto something here. The heterosexual case, for all its controversy, is biologically normal, historically normal, and the attitude (and law) now varies greatly with country, the anglosphere being far on the less accepting end on global scale.
However, the homosexual case cannot be considered symmetric due to statistics. After all, the heterosexual variant of this attraction will inherently tend to target a controversially young, but otherwise heterosexually oriented teen.
Meanwhile in the homosexual variant, well, it has to be noted that most of teens are heterosexual, so what are the chances... A lot of temptation for grooming there, that's the asymmetric core of the problem.
And then there are Afghans and some historical societies who put further question marks into the whole model.
 

Jormungandr

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[...]we're conditioned to ignore the incredibly common heterosexual case of (the entire concept of "jailbait" is literally just pointing out that such attraction is basically normal).
Oh, you'd have (mainly Americans) people shrieking their heads off that such a thing is pedophilia/it's as bad as someone wanting to fuck an eleven year old.

I've had friends in age-gap relationships (one at sixteen was dating a twenty-one year old guy), some of which resulted in marriages and the whole happy two.four kids thing (including my best-friend).

My mother was sixteen when she started dating my father, who was twenty-one. They were happily married for decades until brain cancer stole her from us.

I, myself was chatting up a twenty-three year old Aussie bird at seventeen.

Outside of America? It's pretty much normal. In America? "Take a seat." (Edit: it's not the laws, many of which allow age gap relationships or even sexual activities in various states, but the cultural attitude Americans have as a whole).

If I saw a girl I didn't know walking down the street and who was, well, let's just say "physically developed", of course I'd notice her. Even if I later learned that she turned out to be like fifteen or sixteen, I wouldn't have been looking at her because she's fifteen or sixteen but because, well, she has tits the size of fucking watermelons and a non-babyface to match.

There was this girl on Tik Tok going around "pranking" guys (from college students to old men) by going up to them, flirting with them, asking them to rate her, and then asking for their numbers (only to go "only a prank, bro!" after).

She looked like she was at least eighteen/nineteen, wore denim shorts and a tank top, and was very physically developed. The stereotypical Californian blonde, right down to the bleached hair.

Yeah, the "kicker" at the end of the prank was that she revealed she was sixteen.

All those men who eyed her up because of her physical appearance during the pranks must have been pedos, right? /s smh

Walk down the street and see an attractive girl walking past you, which you notice because of how physically developed she is? If that girl, unbeknownst to you, turns out to be like fifteen or sixteen than the eighteen/nineteen or so you'd have expected from her appearance, does that make you a pedo? Of course it doesn't.

That's why when I hear news of someone being a "predator" or a "pedo" now, I always look at the details first compared to most people, who just jump on the bandwagon (culturally and otherwise): there's a vast difference between someone who wants to fuck an actual child, and someone else who hooked up with or began dating a sixteen or seventeen year old who appeared as being far older than they were (with dating having an appropriate age gap obviously, not like a thirty year old dating a sixteen year old, et cetera).

The latter above was also a recent thing: a footballer, who was twenty-one or two? had a sixteen or seventeen year old girlfriend. No one had any issue with it.

IIRC, she sent him nudes, and the next thing he knows he's being arrested (basically under a technicality) for the obvious. So, he can sleep with his consenting girlfriend, they can ogle each other while they're naked in-person, have a relationship with each other that everyone is chill with, but the moment this "controversy" happened, he was being slandered as being a pedophile and molester by the public (both out of the blue here and in the States, with the latter to be expected because Americans).

Pedophile has been thrown around so much as a buzzword at relationships people don't agree with that it has lost its context, really. Save labeling someone a pedophile for when they actually want to fuck actual kids.
 
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Doomsought

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You are looking at only at a small sample of the material if you think it is just ebophilia. The MBLA received funding from the LGBT lobby up until a law was passed in 1991 to prevent federal funding from going to any organization which supports pedophelia. The famous Vagina monologues contained a story about a young girl being raped by a homeless woman. The epicidemic of Catholic pedistry was enabled by an alliance with homosexual cardinals.
 

Morphic Tide

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Meanwhile in the homosexual variant, well, it has to be noted that most of teens are heterosexual, so what are the chances... A lot of temptation for grooming there, that's the asymmetric core of the problem.
I used "mirror" specifically because factors "flip" as they do with one. There have very much been cases of the opposite, with a genuinely homosexual teenage girl being groomed by an older man, especially when the girl being homosexual was an intense taboo. But the rates of such start with the reciprocal function of the sexualities matching on initiation, which is ~98% of the time for heterosexuals and as direct consequence only ~2% for homosexuals.

Of course, there is long historic evidence that the "primary origin" is confining young men with considerably fewer women. Prisons, ships, military formations, exclusive polygamy, it seems that whenever there has been an undersupply of women, men begin deciding that man ass will do. Then power dynamics kick in and you end up with the likes of NAMBLA... Or the Pederasty tradition that saw vocal support from Aristotle.

You are looking at only at a small sample of the material if you think it is just ebophilia.
I'm saying that the overall body indicates the intrinsic case is ephebophilic, just like it is with the majority of heterosexual "child sexual molestation" and "child pornography" cases. Again, the data on the outright kiddie-diddlers is extremely overwhelmingly sex-independent.

As far as I can see, it's foundational yet not intrinsic, where the movement unified by breaking male/female norms in a variety of ways ended up "catching" loads of people interested in breaking other conventions in the general counter-cultural tide that stuck by whatever "block" they could sink roots into, kept going by parasitizing career activism that itself inevitably goes utterly horrid places to justify itself.

Precisely like the more honestly dogmatic "Perpetual Revolution" lot, in fact.
 

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In the "Untouchables reach out to Untouchables" sense, as we've got no meaningful records of another time when there was any real push for homosexuals to live as analogous to normal lives as possible, so the modern case of exactly this leading to dramatic separations (most visible with the Feminist Civil War over transgenderism) is a clear indication that a large part of it is "I've already broken one Big Law that'll have me exiled at best, may as well keep going".

IIRC, studies of prepubescent sexual attraction show that it's almost never sex-selective, while the limited studies of "entanglement" in homosexuals show that it's specific to early puberty. Overall, the "intrinsic homosexual pedophilia" seems to be just the "mirror" of ~14-16 ephebophilia we're conditioned to ignore the incredibly common heterosexual case of (the entire concept of "jailbait" is literally just pointing out that such attraction is basically normal).

"Jailbait" is a concept that exists due to the problem of some young girls becoming physically developed at a younger age than the legally defined point at which they can consent to sex. The reason such a limit is set, I think, is that people below a certain age are not considered mentally developed enough to be responsible about those sorts of choices.

A more traditional culture would find all rather strange. They would say that a young girl had no business "consenting" to sex with any man other than her proper husband - and her parents would be arranging who that would be.
 
"Jailbait" is a concept that exists due to the problem of some young girls becoming physically developed at a younger age than the legally defined point at which they can consent to sex. The reason such a limit is set, I think, is that people below a certain age are not considered mentally developed enough to be responsible for those sorts of choices.

A more traditional culture would find all rather strange. They would say that a young girl had no business "consenting" to sex with any man other than her proper husband - and her parents would be arranging who that would be.

on one hand, many more traditional cultures don't view women as fully human (practically speaking not rhetorically speaking)
on the other hand, I can't help but think that America is not really in a position to define mentally developed or a healthy relationship considering we have many middle-aged men and women that have the mental maturity of toddlers and have a divorce rate of 50%.

every solution I can think of ends up all going off the same cliff at some point, some just a tad bit slower than others. I think the best solution is to find the best person for you.
 
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Marduk

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"Jailbait" is a concept that exists due to the problem of some young girls becoming physically developed at a younger age than the legally defined point at which they can consent to sex. The reason such a limit is set, I think, is that people below a certain age are not considered mentally developed enough to be responsible about those sorts of choices.
However, that theory isn't even consistently followed in USA or most other countries who have that issue. Because they do make an exception for the same young girls to consent to sex, as long as it's with someone aged no more than 18-25 depending on specific jurisdiction.
Hence it's more of a thing related to the cultural mores pushed by the influence of 30+ year old women who get butthurt about men of similar age potentially trying to pick their wives medieval style instead of dating women their or older age.
 
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Cherico

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However, that theory isn't even consistently followed in USA or most other countries who have that issue. Because they do make an exception for the same young girls to consent to sex, as long as it's with someone aged no more than 18-25 depending on specific jurisdiction.
Hence it's more of a thing more related to the cultural mores pushed by the influence of 30+ year old women who get butthurt about men of similar age potentially trying to pick their wives medieval style instead of dating women their or older age.

women have basically been lied to by feminism for about 60 plus years now.

Fact is women have a very limited time frame to find a high quality husband, and if you decide to use that time to 'find yourself' or focus on your career your going to waste that time. Then you have a choice between lowering your standards or being alone the rest of your life.

This by the way is a situation that has more or less made everyone unhappy, and is completely unsustainable.
 

Captain X

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Is this the reason behind the more recent moralizing about age disparity between couples? Hell, they have the same moral outrage as normal people would feel toward actual pedophilia toward guys who date women 10 or more years younger than them, as if 20-somethings are children, yet they defend actual pedophiles and grooming by alphabet people. Makes zero sense to me.
 
women have basically been lied to by feminism for about 60 plus years now.

Fact is women have a very limited time frame to find a high quality husband, and if you decide to use that time to 'find yourself' or focus on your career your going to waste that time. Then you have a choice between lowering your standards or being alone the rest of your life.

This by the way is a situation that has more or less made everyone unhappy, and is completely unsustainable.

I'd actually argue it's not just women. As a teen I had it hammered in my head so much (and all my decisions revolved around "Education, Education, Education career career career. As a result, my social skills completely fell by the wayside and I felt completely burned out and wanted to do nothing more than veggie out and tune out at the end of every day. and the punchline to the joke is college degrees are borderline worthless now and all that venture capital is gone, meaning that unlimited growth corperations are always striving for...*POOF* and the icing on the cake. the people who are advancing in the corporate world are the ones that know people, the jocks that for the most part slacked off in school but learned how to talk to people and network. So I have very little to show for anything except quite a bit of unnecessary debt, (Not nearly as much as some of my peers but still...) I essentially lost a decade of my life and now I'm nearly in my thirties and having to play catch up.

Had I just worried about doing just the bare minimum to graduate high school (and MAYBE community college) and instead focused on my social skills and relationships, learned how to have fun and talk to people and even learned how to "Show off my bad boy side." I might have been better established, probably had a lot more money in my pocket (and definitely a lot less debt.) and might have even got married long before now.

As much as it pains me to say this because I love Ronald Reagan, the "working up the corporate ladder" culture that started in the 80s and 90s has been a horrible perversion of the American dream and it has done far more damage to our culture and economy in the long run than it has provided a benefit. We had it right the first time when we said the American Dream was "A house, some land, a car, and a chicken in every pot."

as easy as it is to blame feminism and the damage career culture has done to women for all our problems let's not forget the damage that's been done to men by those same forces. Corporate culture is not a "man's game" either. it's all a big con.
 
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Marduk

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Is this the reason behind the more recent moralizing about age disparity between couples? Hell, they have the same moral outrage as normal people would feel toward actual pedophilia toward guys who date women 10 or more years younger than them, as if 20-somethings are children, yet they defend actual pedophiles and grooming by alphabet people. Makes zero sense to me.
It makes perfect sense if you try to think like some feminist thot out to catch an at least middle class husband desperate enough to marry her so that she can then ruin him in divorce court 5-10 year later. One threatens the entire lifestyle of both you and your peers if it gets too widespread, the other is just pedophilia.
 

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A Canadian 'Trans' Tech Teacher named Kayla Lemieux, whose apparently notable for going viral after videos surfaced of the Teacher going to work at the Oakville Trafalgar High School located in Ontario, Canada where they apparently dress in Z-Cup sized prosthetic breasts (with protruding nipples) and a blonde wig, was apparently removed from a Childrens Dance Recital back in 2021 by concerned parents for reasons that I'm sure weren't manifestly obvious.

The Teacher reportedly starting transitioning just last year.


Needless to say, the Halton School Board, after the controversy arose in regards to the Teachers dress, recommended doing nothing after review because it didn't want to open itself up to potential Human Rights Abuses in case they violated the Ontario Human Rights Code.
 

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Captain X

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Hey, remember that crazy lady who was on Tucker Carlson's show saying that babies shouldn't be gendered until they can decide for themselves what gender they are?


Guess it's no surprise that a child groomer would also be an elder abuser, too.
 

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