Kyle Rittenhouse Trial Thread

[The Original Sixth]

Biden can go drink hot lava. Election stealing child molesting fucker.

You can't honestly think that Biden is coherent enough to have an opinion on this case. Even before his mind started to go, his idea of what was right generally depended on swing voters.

 

[LMB The Mun]

 

[Arlos]

Too slow I’m afraid.

 

[GoldRanger]

I'm going to echo what I've told others.

I don't think that Rittenhouse is by any stretch of the imagination, a hero. What he did was very foolish. Brave maybe, but very foolish. He is no hero. There was nothing heroic about what he did. He got himself isolated, exposed, and with very little idea of how to handle the situation he found himself in.

I disagree. While it's a bit hyperbolic calling him a hero, from the start to the bitter end everything he did was out of concern for his community and the people he loved, and any and all deaths are easily attributable to the actions of his assailants.

If you have to assign blame, I would argue that the rioters shouldn't have been in Kenosha in the first place. As a person with intimate ties to the city, Kyle had every right to show up and try to defend it.

 

[Rocinante]

I'm going to echo what I've told others.

I don't think that Rittenhouse is by any stretch of the imagination, a hero. What he did was very foolish. Brave maybe, but very foolish. He is no hero. There was nothing heroic about what he did. He got himself isolated, exposed, and with very little idea of how to handle the situation he found himself in.

And by an even greater extent, Rittenhouse is no murderer. He was foolish to have driven across state lines to try and get involved, but he did not create the dangerous situation. It was thrust upon him. And from where things went south, Rittenhouse did everything right. He restrained himself in the use of deadly force to only targets that were actively attacking him--after he had chosen to disengage as safely as he could. His attackers were nothing more than common thugs who earned their reward.

Honestly, this shouldn't have even gone to trial. And yet we are better off for it. This shows us that yes, you can defend you and your own, you can do so and get a fair hearing. No matter how MSNBC tries to pressure jurors into convicting your ass. And that is why, I imagine, the left media is so furious. It will embolden people to use deadly force to protect themselves and others. As well it should.

I just want to address your "crossing state line" bit.

It's utterly meaningless. It was only used as an attack against him. You should not parrot that line. It's a half-hour drive from his home town to Kenosha, where he held a job and his dad resides.

 

[Zachowon]

It is the truth, but it also isn't. His dad lives in Kenosha

 

[The Original Sixth]

I disagree. While it's a bit hyperbolic calling him a hero, from the start to the bitter end everything he did was out of concern for his community and the people he loved, and any and all deaths are easily attributable to the actions of his assailants.

If you have to assign blame, I would argue that the rioters shouldn't have been in Kenosha in the first place. As a person with intimate ties to the city, Kyle had every right to show up and try to defend it.

I don't put any blame upon Kyle; I simply said he was very foolish. He shouldn't have gone alone, shouldn't have allowed himself to be singled out, and due to his lack of experience, I do not think he should have gone at all. Especially as he is not a resident of Wisconsin*. We might say that he was brave, but even if we accept that--he is still very foolish.

The people to blame for this are the ones who got shot. That is in fact, very much what the jurors declared through this. They were the ones who attacked Kyle, they pursued him after he fled, and only broke off after he killed a second man and injured a third. The rioters were at fault for their own deaths and maiming.


*I acknowledge that he has ties to Kenosha, but he did not reside in that city and had he no ties, one might argue that he was spoiling for a fight, though I would still not put any blame against him, given what we all saw in that footage.

 

[GoldRanger]

I don't put any blame upon Kyle; I simply said he was very foolish.

Even if I were to agree, foolishness is not a crime. And he was a teenager.

He shouldn't have gone alone, shouldn't have allowed himself to be singled out, and due to his lack of experience, I do not think he should have gone at all. Especially as he is not a resident of Wisconsin*. We might say that he was brave, but even if we accept that--he is still very foolish.

The people to blame for this are the ones who got shot. That is in fact, very much what the jurors declared through this. They were the ones who attacked Kyle, they pursued him after he fled, and only broke off after he killed a second man and injured a third. The rioters were at fault for their own deaths and maiming.


*I acknowledge that he has ties to Kenosha, but he did not reside in that city and had he no ties, one might argue that he was spoiling for a fight, though I would still not put any blame against him, given what we all saw in that footage.

He did not reside in the city, yes, but that's completely irrelevant.

Your entire diatribe, despite the apologies, smells of victim blaming.

 

[The Original Sixth]

I just want to address your "crossing state line" bit.

It's utterly meaningless. It was only used as an attack against him. You should not parrot that line. It's a half-hour drive from his home town to Kenosha, where he held a job and his dad resides.

The argument is that he's putting himself in harm's way. There is something to that, but it is not as his attackers were suggesting, that he was spoiling for a fight. I think it was just him being very foolish. I did not know about his father residing there though, so that is a rather steep omission by the media. Still, I think it's obvious to everyone that Kyle had some sort of attachment to the area--or he would not have gone. I know I would probably go to defend my hometown from these degenerates.

And I wouldn't have stopped at three. And I would have begun at the first one to smash a car or destroy property.

 

[Zachowon]

Again, his dad lived in Kenosha

 

[Bacle]

Maybe Rittenhouse was foolish, but the cops who allowed Kenosha to burn were cowards, and the media and local gov were complicit in all of this happening because of the riots they stoked.

Rittenhouse did not set out to be a hero, and didn't asked to be made the centerpoint of such a huge political shitstorm for daring to try to put out some fires.

Sometimes fools are the only ones brave enough to do the right thing, when it is so easy and simple to let shit burn and look away, particularly if you are 'just following orders' from a corrupt mayor, governor, or POTUS.

 

[Seras]

Even if I were to agree, foolishness is not a crime. And he was a teenager.



He did not reside in the city, yes, but that's completely irrelevant.

Your entire diatribe, despite the apologies, smells of victim blaming.

I agree on this one. Kyle had every legal right to do what he did. Full stop.

In America you have the right to carry a gun, and he had the right to go to this place where people were attacking people and damaging property and say "I want to help."

I wish he hadn't been there, because he was a kid, and it was dangerous, but kids doing dangerous things is something they have always done.

 

[Zachowon]

Fools are the ones that run into the fire. Fools are the ones that throw caution to the wind, Fools are generally both good and bad

 

[Rocinante]

I don't put any blame upon Kyle; I simply said he was very foolish. He shouldn't have gone alone, shouldn't have allowed himself to be singled out, and due to his lack of experience, I do not think he should have gone at all. Especially as he is not a resident of Wisconsin*. We might say that he was brave, but even if we accept that--he is still very foolish.

The people to blame for this are the ones who got shot. That is in fact, very much what the jurors declared through this. They were the ones who attacked Kyle, they pursued him after he fled, and only broke off after he killed a second man and injured a third. The rioters were at fault for their own deaths and maiming.


*I acknowledge that he has ties to Kenosha, but he did not reside in that city and had he no ties, one might argue that he was spoiling for a fight, though I would still not put any blame against him, given what we all saw in that footage.

He did have ties to the city though. That's why I don't like the "drove across state lines" line. It's only used to make him look bad. And while you agree with us on the outcome of the trial, that's what you were using it for, too.

Kenosha is where some of is family lives, and ha had a job there.

Much like my half hour drive to the place I have been working for the last 7 years, you have ties to a place like that.

 

[King Arts]

I don't put any blame upon Kyle; I simply said he was very foolish. He shouldn't have gone alone, shouldn't have allowed himself to be singled out, and due to his lack of experience, I do not think he should have gone at all. Especially as he is not a resident of Wisconsin*. We might say that he was brave, but even if we accept that--he is still very foolish.

The people to blame for this are the ones who got shot. That is in fact, very much what the jurors declared through this. They were the ones who attacked Kyle, they pursued him after he fled, and only broke off after he killed a second man and injured a third. The rioters were at fault for their own deaths and maiming.


*I acknowledge that he has ties to Kenosha, but he did not reside in that city and had he no ties, one might argue that he was spoiling for a fight, though I would still not put any blame against him, given what we all saw in that footage.

Many heroic acts are foolish. And Kyle is a hero there are two less Antifa rioters in the world today one less pedo harming little boys in the world because Kyle acted in self defense.

 

[Duke Nukem]

 

[DarthOne]

Too slow I’m afraid.

It’s still good, you just have to watch it on YouTube

 

[GoldRanger]

Just look at this poor fucking kid, supposed "white supremacist". He's not faking it, at that point the verdict is sealed and he has zero reason to act for the sake of the jury (and if that's acting then he should be scouted by Hollywood producers).

As someone who had relatives with cancer, and understand how grave and terrible that illness is, I sincerely, from the bottom of my heart, wish the scumbags who wanted him behind bars get a head tumor. That includes the senile fuck heading your country at the moment.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

I disagree. While it's a bit hyperbolic calling him a hero, from the start to the bitter end everything he did was out of concern for his community and the people he loved, and any and all deaths are easily attributable to the actions of his assailants.

If you have to assign blame, I would argue that the rioters shouldn't have been in Kenosha in the first place. As a person with intimate ties to the city, Kyle had every right to show up and try to defend it.

He shot a pedophile and some communists.

The first is objectively heroic, those people don't deserve life. The second is heroic to any Latin American who had to flee his country because of communism.

We embrace him as a hero and are glad that he is not a martyred one.

 

[Robovski]

This is all part of the wider Chicago metropolitan area, and honestly, I crossed state lines as a minor many, many times into Indiana and Wisconsin when I was a teen in Chicago. His father lived in Kenosha (Wisconsin) even if he himself lived in Antioch (Illinois) and really is pure bullshit you normally only see dragged out as an extra charge with some kidnapping or some kind of corrupting a minor charge.