United States ICE facilities, policies and their performance

LifeisTiresome said:
This. The left want Open borders for the west. What makes anyone think they care about border enforcement at all? Its all nazism to them. hell, didn't they declare recently that caring about preserving european culture is nazism?
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I'm sure they did everything is nazism anymore.
 
You know what I would like?

I would like people to learn the difference between CBP and ICE...

Because almost everything being discuissed in this thread? That's CBP and or HHS, not ICE.
 
@Aaron Fox

What exactly have I said for your new Haha that is false?

The Democrats have basically called for Open borders aka they don't care about a border anymore and there is infact a mention of preservation of european culture being seen as nazi by leftist groups.

What did I say here that is false and thus worthy of your Haha?

At least make an argument instead of using an emoji to somehow make an argument for you.
 
So an ICE thread or whatever stands for American border patrol. Watched a recent clip of Trump visiting California's walls there and the border protection people say they like what he's doing for them in making their job's easier.

Haters I suspect would call it a propoganda shoot.
 
Beardius Prime said:
So an ICE thread or whatever stands for American border patrol. Watched a recent clip of Trump visiting California's walls there and the border protection people say they like what he's doing for them in making their job's easier.

Haters I suspect would call it a propoganda shoot.
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It could very well be. They could well be saying it to bet Trump to like them. It doesn't mean much at least imo.
 
LifeisTiresome said:
It could very well be. They could well be saying it to bet Trump to like them. It doesn't mean much at least imo.
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It's just part of his visit there. He's also doing a fundraiser from GOP there and talked of addressing the homeless situation there where the bubonic plague and all sorts of diseases once thought to be dead are coming back from all the lack of hygiene.

It's certainly a divide and conquer strategy just like when he was campaigning against Hilary who neglected the blue dogs.
 
Beardius Prime said:
It's just part of his visit there. He's also doing a fundraiser from GOP there and talked of addressing the homeless situation there where the bubonic plague and all sorts of diseases once thought to be dead are coming back from all the lack of hygiene.

It's certainly a divide and conquer strategy just like when he was campaigning against Hilary who neglected the blue dogs.
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LA has rising of Bubonic plague and Leprosy of all things. How the hell these old diseases rise up in the US of all places gets a wow from me!
 
LifeisTiresome said:
LA has rising of Bubonic plague and Leprosy of all things. How the hell these old diseases rise up in the US of all places gets a wow from me!
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I'm as suprised as you are.

It is why I mentioned the divide and conquer method. If he can convert more people in the hopes that the homeless and hygiene issue is eventually solved he boosts his election chances.

There's also the fact this has been happening on a Democratic stronghold who have been managing the place for many years now while the place is getting neglected. What excuses do they have when Trump tightens the screws?
 
Beardius Prime said:
There's also the fact this has been happening on a Democratic stronghold who have been managing the place for many years now while the place is getting neglected. What excuses do they have when Trump tightens the screws?
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That it’s all Trump’s fault for being against open borders and whatever expensive healthcare plan they plan on making?

Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t most Mass Shootings, that aren’t even for getting money, usually ironically done in Gun-Free Zones or areas?
 
CarlManvers2019 said:
Are there even any cures to those old diseases? Yeah, sorry I know this question’s really dumb
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I don't know.

Beardius Prime said:
What excuses do they have when Trump tightens the screws?
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Thats easy. Orange man bad.

These are the people who complained about Pennywise being evil and attacking gay characters as being another example of the evils of Trump america. Somehow trump made a fictional evil cosmic clown kill gay people in a book and film. Compared to that? Blaming him for disease is mundane.
 
CarlManvers2019 said:
That it’s all Trump’s fault for being against open borders and whatever expensive healthcare plan they plan on making?

Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t most Mass Shootings, that aren’t even for getting money, usually ironically done in Gun-Free Zones or areas?
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I don't know.

I would have to look at the recent shootings to know.

LifeisTiresome said:
I don't know.


Thats easy. Orange man bad.

These are the people who complained about Pennywise being evil and attacking gay characters as being another example of the evils of Trump america. Somehow trump made a fictional evil cosmic clown kill gay people in a book and film. Compared to that? Blaming him for disease is mundane.
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Empty rhetoric that won't fix a city to stop being a shit hole.
 
LifeisTiresome said:
These are the people who complained about Pennywise being evil and attacking gay characters as being another example of the evils of Trump america. Somehow trump made a fictional evil cosmic clown kill gay people in a book and film. Compared to that? Blaming him for disease is mundane.
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Stephen King’s currently leaning Far Left, I wonder how he’s reacting to this
 
Beardius Prime said:
Empty rhetoric that won't fix a city to stop being a shit hole.
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I don’t think anyone can remove them all en masse, hell, they may even move back in

The more mentally ill and low IQ ones who may neither have the ability or willingness to work will probably be skimmed or ignored by the MSM

They would have less underdog points the moment they actually start biting people and not even speaking the language of their native country of origin
 
CarlManvers2019 said:
Stephen King’s currently leaning Far Left, I wonder how he’s reacting to this
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Probably ignore it. Its not a big deal at any rate. Left will always ignore shit they don't want to confront or acknowledge. I was just saying that you really can't underestimate the shit these people will blame Trump for.

I recall mention of how a commentator has had no sleep since Trump got elected. 4 years of no sleep! What an over-dramatic attention whore.
 
CarlManvers2019 said:
I don’t think anyone can remove them all en masse, hell, they may even move back in

The more mentally ill and low IQ ones who may neither have the ability or willingness to work will probably be skimmed or ignored by the MSM

They would have less underdog points the moment they actually start biting people and not even speaking the language of their native country of origin
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If Trump promises to deal with the issue then he'll ensure the people stay there.

Onto another topic of border protection, how hard does it make ICE do their job when some cities opt to become sanctuaries?

I remember when Trump thought off dumping more illegal migrants into sanctuary cities and my goodness they reeeed at the costs.
 
LifeisTiresome said:
@Aaron Fox

What exactly have I said for your new Haha that is false?

The Democrats have basically called for Open borders aka they don't care about a border anymore and there is infact a mention of preservation of european culture being seen as nazi by leftist groups.

What did I say here that is false and thus worthy of your Haha?

At least make an argument instead of using an emoji to somehow make an argument for you.
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That is not the Democrat's talking point and you know it. The vast majority of the Democrats want to essentially make the entire process less byzantine than it already is. Something that even Bush Jr. understood as necessary.
 
Aaron Fox said:
That is not the Democrat's talking point and you know it. The vast majority of the Democrats want to essentially make the entire process less byzantine than it already is. Something that even Bush Jr. understood as necessary.
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From yahoo:

Representative Tulsi Gabbard (D., Hawaii) derided her fellow Democratic presidential candidates during a recent interview for embracing permissive immigration policies, accusing them of support for “open borders.”

Asked if she believes “open borders” is a fair descriptor of the positions embraced by her Democratic primary opponents, Gabbard told YouTube host Dave Rubin that it was an accurate label and dismissed the oft-repeated Democratic rejoinder that conservatives use the phrase to tar their political adversaries.

“I don’t support open borders. Without secure borders, we don’t really have a country,” she said. “And while some of the other Democratic candidates will say ‘well, open borders that’s a conservative argument and that’s not really what’s being advocated for’ — if you look at the practical implications of some of the things they’re advocating for, it is essentially open borders.”

Long-shot presidential contender Julian Castro, the former secretary of housing and urban development under President Obama, managed to pull the Democratic primary field leftward on immigration during the campaign’s first debate, by asking those on stage to commit to decriminalizing illegal border crossings. All ten candidates on stage, with the notable exception of Beto O’Rourke, endorsed Castro’s plan, as did eight out of the ten candidates who took the stage the following night.

Gabbard — who failed to qualify for the third Democratic primary debate, scheduled for Thursday night — has grown increasingly vocal in her opposition to the Democratic establishment.
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news.yahoo.com

Tulsi Gabbard: The Rest of Democratic Primary Field Has Embraced ‘Open Borders’

Representative Tulsi Gabbard (D., Hawaii) derided her fellow Democratic presidential candidates during a recent interview for embracing permissive immigration policies, accusing them of support for "open borders."Asked if she believes “open borders” is a fair descriptor of the positions embraced
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You decriminalize crossing borders illegally. You give illegal immigrants health insurance and medicaid.

What is this but Open Borders? There is no incentive or punishment to make one not want to cross the border.
 
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