United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots

Bacle

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They have made for themselves new gods. To what moral law will you appeal to tell them that they are wrong?

Identity politics are not reconcileable with a Christian worldview. You must first reject Biblical teachings, before you can buy into Identity Politics.



I do not advocate blind faith. It gets exactly what you're describing with your aunt, and as you've seen, it's a destructive thing.

If people do not believe in God, they will make gods out of men, and that is exactly what leads to the blind sort of cultish violence we're seeing today. George Floyd has been made into an idol, an avatar of what people think to be true, their martyr of victimhood.

Set aside direct belief in God. That's not why I raised the issue in the first place. The issue is belief in Truth.

If you believe that Truth is or can be whatever you want it to be, something that is taught aggressively by post-modernists, then you will regularly succumb to or actively seek out believing whatever is most convenient to you, or makes you feel best. This is exactly what feeds into the myth that black people are massively, disproportionately, persecuted by the police.

If we swept away all the politicized BS, I would not be surprised if we found out that there is some kind of small bias against blacks in several key high-population areas. I'd be just as unsurprised if that wasn't the case.

The thing is, because rhetoric and dogma have taken the place of pursuit of actual Truth, because the post-modernists literally believe that they can redefine Truth by redefining language, the key people pushing and (most) of those participating in these riots, do not care about what is actually True.

They have put their faith and belief in their Cause, their Social Justice movement. They believe that their work will bring about heaven on earth, and a key part of making this ideology widespread and popular, is how Truth, and specifically Truth about God, has been driven out of the public spaces.

You say that it's cultural marxism, not lack of belief in God that brought us to where we are?

I say the rejection of God is a necessary predicate for believing in cultural marxism.

(And yes, I get that your aunt apparently is a part of a church that has sold out to the regressive left. If you want, I can go through point-by-point how that means that by necessity she's rejected Christianity, and is just claiming the outward appearance of an ideology she lives in opposition to. Many churches have done this.)
Believing in the existence of an 'objective Truth TM' only accessable via religion is part of the problem.

Because the world exists as more than just a reflection of, or lack of, Christian or religious values.

I believe there is something beyond this life, but I am not convinced that any religion has the whole of it or exclusive access to the divine.

But I also understand that due to religion's checkered history (not just Christianity) and things like the Catholic Priest molestation, Islamic radicalism, and Religious Auth-Right stuff has massively turned people off to formalized faith or allowing it power in the public space.

The rise of Far-Left is more the result of long-game tampering on the part of Russia and China, not lack of religion.

There was a saying I was taught in a history class 'Communism is the opiate of the intellectuals, religion is the opiate of the masses'. That may be a bit hyperbolic, but there is a seed of truth to it.

Religion needs to humble itself, and realize that 'objective truth' is not something it has exclusive claim to, before it can effectively fight the Far-Left.

Physics is the only 'objective Truth TM' out there, and that is a cold hard fact.
 

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There is a reason Denver and Colorado Springs have not burned like Portland, Chicago, LA, DC, and Minneapolis.

We are not pure blue, have had GOP govs/mayor's in the recent past, and the Dems know our official will not let the violence reach those levels, out of state pride if nothing else.
 

Sailor.X

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My aunt is one of the most devout Christians I know; and she's the reason I just don't believe that a renewed devotion to god is going to save us, because she's also one of the most die hard regressive leftists I've ever met. You can watch her brain blue screen in real time whenever she sees or hears something that contradicts her closely held beliefs, and she'll latch onto just about any rationalization (no matter how divorced from reality it is) to convince herself that such a thing does not exist; down to simply refusing to acknowledge that it does.

Blind faith is what got us into this mess; so it's not going to be the thing that saves us.
Yeah, even my priests in college were going on about Social Justice and even my religious studies teacher who went to Saudi Arabia and had to hide his faith, defended their regressive practice

Hell, I was made to watch some movie about "Rerum Novarum" which failed to account for how advancing technologies were gonna make child labor unnecessarily expensive or impractical to begin with

Scariest part is that I think lots of these religious dudes who are Far Left are more genuine in their beliefs or genuine in their desire to help than the others
Just because you go to church and pray all the time. Or is a Priest in a church. Does not mean you are right with God. That is the mistake many people on the right and the left make. Did not the Book of Revelation point out the Churches God was not pleased with. And the only two Churches he was pleased with. Broad is the path to destruction and narrow is the path to Salvation. You can call yourself a Christian, go to Church and still be hell bound if you are not right with God.
 

Terthna

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Just because you go to church and pray all the time. Or is a Priest in a church. Does not mean you are right with God. That is the mistake many people on the right and the left make. Did not the Book of Revelation point out the Churches God was not pleased with. And the only two Churches he was pleased with. Broad is the path to destruction and narrow is the path to Salvation. You can call yourself a Christian, go to Church and still be hell bound if you are not right with God.
One can become too obsessed with the word, so much so that one ends up ignoring the spirit.


Or, at least, that's what I've observed as an outsider.
 

LifeisTiresome

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Even the Church isn't immune to Cultural Marxism bullshit

My aunt is one of the most devout Christians I know; and she's the reason I just don't believe that a renewed devotion to god is going to save us, because she's also one of the most die hard regressive leftists I've ever met. You can watch her brain blue screen in real time whenever she sees or hears something that contradicts her closely held beliefs, and she'll latch onto just about any rationalization (no matter how divorced from reality it is) to convince herself that such a thing does not exist; down to simply refusing to acknowledge that it does.

Blind faith is what got us into this mess; so it's not going to be the thing that saves us.
Mainstream churches are no longer really Christian. They advocate for removing Christ from the Church and replacing it with Muslim symbols or advocate for Gay Adam and Gay Eve.

And I say this as an atheist.
 

Cherico

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Its not even the brainwashing thats the worst part. They want to pump these kids with chemicals that will sterilize them. On KF, there is an article where a 15 year old girl is pumped with chemicals cause going trans and now apparently has menopause at fucking 15!

Of course said kid is white btw.

We seemingly have entire generation of men who so yearn for companionship that they will happily be paypigs for women who can now earn millions. Basically, these men have no romance, no sex, no partners, no families, no future.

These women will of course spend their money which will happily feed the corporations who will then further push for women to follow these type of careers while also pushing for men to not have jobs so that women can take his job for feminism.

For all the claims by the left that they want to raise kids to be gender neutral, its always seen that boys are made to be girls. They want to feminize boys and thus make them go trans and make girls either the strong, independent woman who will never have kids or go trans.


what will change this is pain.

Only when the pain of inaction is worse then the pain of action will it change. The good news is this no matter what line you have the far left will cross it. So you just wait until the suffering gets to the point where the normies snap and you win.
 

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Epic Rooftop Gamers protecting a game stop from looters

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PsihoKekec

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Mainstream churches are no longer really Christian. They advocate for removing Christ from the Church and replacing it with Muslim symbols or advocate for Gay Adam and Gay Eve.

And I say this as an atheist.
Not exactly unique to USA, this is for example Germany and hear Church of England is just as bad, not to mention the Scandinavians.

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hyperspacewizard

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My aunt is one of the most devout Christians I know; and she's the reason I just don't believe that a renewed devotion to god is going to save us, because she's also one of the most die hard regressive leftists I've ever met. You can watch her brain blue screen in real time whenever she sees or hears something that contradicts her closely held beliefs, and she'll latch onto just about any rationalization (no matter how divorced from reality it is) to convince herself that such a thing does not exist; down to simply refusing to acknowledge that it does.

Blind faith is what got us into this mess; so it's not going to be the thing that saves us.
Blind faith is bad but lack of faith can be just as bad and it’s weird because all sides seemed to have forgotten the examples of the past where religious and spiritual people of all faiths where also the leaders of philosophy logic reason and science it’s the search for the truth that had been cast to the wayside people on every side but especially the left don’t question themselves they lead an un examined life. So while I feel we don’t need zealots we need a return to a belief in the objective truth and cast aside this subjective bullshit. These riots and political situation we live in is more than anything because of a mass delusion and a refusal to accept reality.

Also as an aside I the Abrahamic faiths aren’t the be all end all. Buddhists and even neo pagans or occultist are just as good but also can be subverted. I personally feel the search for a higher truth outside of the material is more important vs what the actual trappings of the path to that truth is.
 
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CarlManvers2019

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Blind faith is bad but lack of faith can be just as bad and it’s weird because all sides seemed to have forgotten the examples of the past where religious and spiritual people of all faiths where also the leaders of philosophy logic reason and science it’s the search for the truth that had been cast to the wayside people on every side but especially the left don’t question themselves they lead an un examined life. So while I feel we don’t need zealots we need a return to a belief in the objective truth and cast aside this subjective bullshit. These riots and political situation we live in is more than anything because of a mass delusion and a refusal to accept reality.

Also as an aside I the Abrahamic faiths aren’t the be all end all. Buddhists and even neo pagans or occultist are just as good but also can be subverted. I personally feel the search for a higher truth outside of the material is more important vs what the actual trappings of the path to that truth is.

Honestly, I think the problem with Atheists on the Far Left, is odds are they are NOT actually interested in stuff like science and finance

They’re both cynics and idealists who follow some guys talking about how evil the West is and how much they’re killing “Mother Gaia” without really caring to make other solutions that won’t have horrible side effects

Even Stalin messed up science in the USSR with things like agriculture
 

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Epic Rooftop Gamers protecting a game stop from looters

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I am not a fan of rooftop anything. All it takes is one stray shot to hit someone not even involved in the mess and said shooter will have their lives ruined. Not to mention anyone with decent marksmanship skills can and will nail you on said building with a zeroed in Deer Rifle.
 

Cherico

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I am not a fan of rooftop anything. All it takes is one stray shot to hit someone not even involved in the mess and said shooter will have their lives ruined. Not to mention anyone with decent marksmanship skills can and will nail you on said building with a zeroed in Deer Rifle.

we do not live in ideal times do we?
 

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