United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots

Blasterbot

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home schooling is exploding as a movement, as is online education, our current model of education is obsolete and people are starting to get it.
not gonna disagree with you there just saying the progressives are playing a different game. their goal is conversion not reproduction. many of them argue that we are overpopulated and view the idea of bringing new life into this world as anathema to their ideology.
 

Blasterbot

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its a losing stratagy in the long term and the long term comes for every one.
parasites occur in the natural world. I would not discount this strategy out of hand merely because it requires the existence of other ideologies or hypocrites to succeed. if we fail to account for this and say time will take care of it for us we will fail to excise this cancer.
 

Captain X

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I actually agree that there shouldn't be any no-knock warrants, and from the body cam footage, it actually is obvious that the police lied about the sequence of events (as in they claimed they announced themselves before entering, but in fact only announced themselves as they were rushing in). He did have a gun, but it is said he had a permit to carry. I don't know if that's true or not, but this is another case where I'm at least kind of against the police. I'm just worried this is going to turn into yet another circus and be an excuse to have yet another round of "mostly peaceful protests."
 

Abhorsen

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Bet you dollars to donuts that he got lit up because he decided he was a big bad gangsta and tried to shoot the cops. These swat cops will likely get thrown under the bus.
This time, they deserve to be. He was a legal firearm owner with a CCL, not named on the warrant, who was sleeping on a couch. The cops, after being asked by the St Paul department to do a knock and announce, instead did a no knock warrant.

So basically a guy who's sleeping on a couch suddenly hears people breaking into the apartment, and grabs his gun. He is then shot.


This is how they will raid your house to take your guns because someone somewhere put a Red Flag alert on you, and how you will be killed 'resisting' arrest. The man did nothing wrong here.

It's also why no knocks for drugs should be gone, as they keep resulting in preventable deaths of gun owners and a few cops, neither of whom actually want to kill each other.
 

Abhorsen

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I see. Thank you and @Captain X for the correction.
Eh, nothing wrong with basic pattern recognition. A lot of times the complaints are baseless. The thing is that some of the time they aren't. People are being fed one of two easy narratives: Cops are all racist/Cops are all good. Really, the truth is complicated:

Cops are generally good people that, in cities, tend to be antagonistic towards civilians and their rights out of somewhat reasonable fear of death and wanting to put away the bad guy. This leads to a host of problems.

BLM are also bad actors here. Cops aren't racist as a whole, so all their DIE training can't solve the problems even if it worked, which benefits BLM as they can keep claiming racism. What's actually needed is the concept that cops are supposed to protect people's rights, which can be gotten partially by increased accountability and less ability to violate rights.

Increased accountability can be gotten a number of ways. This includes replacing qualified immunity with something based around a reasonableness standard, making it so that cops who lose their badge can't get another job as a cop, killing the unions so officers actually can be fired, etc.

Less availability to violate rights includes more body cams (those also help good cops, so double win) and things to make them mandatory; getting rid of civil asset forfeiture including federal cooperation; getting rid of no-knock warrants for drug crimes; having specialists like mental health interventionists to work on cases where they could help; etc.
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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I see. Thank you and @Captain X for the correction.

Funnily enough there's been a recent trend of cops shooting at a legal gun owner in the middle of a gigantic clusterfuck and the gun owners reflexively shooting back and then the cops and gun owners both apologizing to each other, realizing the mistake and moving on. And it being to the point where cops will testify for the defense against zealous prosecutors who try to make something of an honest accident.

The day Rittenhouse got acquitted one such guy also walked free.

I guess city cops are finally realizing that shitting where you eat is a bad idea.

I mean, it's only taken them a century or so but.
 

49ersfootball

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Funnily enough there's been a recent trend of cops shooting at a legal gun owner in the middle of a gigantic clusterfuck and the gun owners reflexively shooting back and then the cops and gun owners both apologizing to each other, realizing the mistake and moving on. And it being to the point where cops will testify for the defense against zealous prosecutors who try to make something of an honest accident.

The day Rittenhouse got acquitted one such guy also walked free.

I guess city cops are finally realizing that shitting where you eat is a bad idea.

I mean, it's only taken them a century or so but.
More ammunition for the GOP to aggressively exploit in the 2022 Midterms.
 

BlackDragon98

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Funnily enough there's been a recent trend of cops shooting at a legal gun owner in the middle of a gigantic clusterfuck and the gun owners reflexively shooting back and then the cops and gun owners both apologizing to each other, realizing the mistake and moving on. And it being to the point where cops will testify for the defense against zealous prosecutors who try to make something of an honest accident.

The day Rittenhouse got acquitted one such guy also walked free.

I guess city cops are finally realizing that shitting where you eat is a bad idea.

I mean, it's only taken them a century or so but.
Have an example, you do?

Nah it's too cold to riot.

Even if you set a few buildings on fire
Bullshit, eh?

Or maybe you Yankees are too sensitive to the cold, eh? :LOL:
 

Zachowon

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The no knock wasn't justified, but if he was not the owner of the place, and was with a person who the warrant is for, it can still be considered a justified shooting.

I feel bad for the guy. For sure, and some of those officers didn't get a choice if they knocked or no knocked.
Have an example, you do?


Bullshit, eh?

Or maybe you Yankees are too sensitive to the cold, eh? :LOL:
You do realize majority of the US is further south then almost all of Europe
 

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